BA

Bay Area Dave

02/05/2004 10:33 PM

Charlie Self, the major woodworking magazine contributor shows off his literary style once again.

[Taken from rec.photo.digital]

"
Gene Palmiter blubbers:


>>
>>As a vet myself it takes only a question or two to spot a
poser...I would
>>have to suspect that a "Marine" who hasn't heard of the
Chosen Res. hasn't
>>heard of the Shores of Tripoli either.
>>


Fuck you, doggie. You can't even spell it.

Charlie Self
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
Napoleon Bonaparte"

Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?
I'm sure it comes in handy when explaining all about "Hand
Drills" and other woodworking tools.


This topic has 61 replies

Dd

Daniel

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 1:28 AM

How do I block him? My Netscape 7.1 filters don't seem to be doing
anything, even with the correct email address :)

Tom Watson wrote:

> On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>
> Lordy, what a piece of crap.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

02/05/2004 11:19 PM

In article <KGelc.59264$%[email protected]>, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>[Taken from rec.photo.digital]
>
>Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?

Dave, you goofed up here. It's *my* week to watch Charlie. *Your* turn isn't
til *next* week.

Aintcha got nuthin' better to do? Yer SWMBO outta town or something?

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"Greg O"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

02/05/2004 9:36 PM


"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>
> Lordy, what a piece of crap.
>
>
>

It think it is that time of the month again for BAD.
I tried to to have a conversation here with him in another thread, and it
just turned to shit.
Go figure!
Then this thread, just to try and take a cheap shot at Charlie, A person
that has more class in his little finger than BAD will ever have!
It takes allot for me to plonk someone, but BAD may have reached that point!
If he keeps it up, there will be no one to respond to his posts!
Greg

SI

"Slowhand"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 1:21 PM


"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>
> Lordy, what a piece of crap.

Bay area who?
SH - ploinked him long ago.

SI

"Slowhand"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 9:19 AM


"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> tell SH it's "p-l-o-n-k-e-d"; NOT "p-l-o-i-n-k-e-d" If he
> is gonna do it, do it right!

No. My machine definately makes the ploink noise. You know BAD, In alot of
peoples eyes here, you are a truly ridiculous sight. You definately have
issues dude and for the most part take up valuable bandwidth.
SH - don't bother replying 'cuz it's back in the filter wichya

>
> dave
>
> Slowhand wrote:
>
> > "Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>More of the usual from Boy Dave.
> >>
> >>Lordy, what a piece of crap.
> >
> >
> > Bay area who?
> > SH - ploinked him long ago.
> >
> >
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 10:05 PM

So you come out for a second and then run like a lily
livered yellow bellied sap sucking scum that you are?? :)
You are a CLASS act, Slowdown.

that was a joke... Hardly anyone can tell when I'm joking
around here. you guys are the wet blankets that everyone
refers to at a party when other people are trying to have a
good time. LIGHTEN UP!

And what's with all the "threats" of plonking me anyway??
That is THE MOST ludicrous part all; as I don't care if
folks I don't like filter me out of their news reader. It
just makes it more peaceful for me and for the rest of the
group. What's not to like about being plonked? I think the
part that galls these guys is that they have NO power over
me and so the only thing they can do is "threaten" me with
plonking me. Number one, I can read EVERYONE's post at any
time if I choose, so they can't HIDE from me. Number two, I
can CHOOSE to avoid THEM. Number three, I couldn't care
LESS if they don't see MY posts. Number four, I can always
change my screen name in 5 seconds in case I want to address
the entire group, BUT WHY WOULD I NEED TO DO THAT? I DON'T.
So enjoy your little pretend power play my ineffectual
miscreant. Oh, I forgot; you aren't reading this. What the
heck, it was FUN for me to write it (except for the TYPING
part. <g>) I need voice recognition software (that works).
BTW, I CHOOSE not to plonk you SH. At least not for now.
Two miscreants is all I need in my filter list.

dave

Slowhand wrote:

> "Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>tell SH it's "p-l-o-n-k-e-d"; NOT "p-l-o-i-n-k-e-d" If he
>>is gonna do it, do it right!
>
>
> No. My machine definately makes the ploink noise. You know BAD, In alot of
> peoples eyes here, you are a truly ridiculous sight. You definately have
> issues dude and for the most part take up valuable bandwidth.
> SH - don't bother replying 'cuz it's back in the filter wichya
>
>
>>dave
>>
>>Slowhand wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>>>>
>>>>Lordy, what a piece of crap.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bay area who?
>>>SH - ploinked him long ago.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

JJ

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 10:05 PM

04/05/2004 7:49 PM

Tue, May 4, 2004, 10:05pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbled:
<snip> that was a joke... Hardly anyone can tell when I'm joking around
here. <snip>

So, your idea of joking is to call someone vile, and demeaning,
names, then expect them to find that humorous? Is that it? That might,
I say MIGHT, work with an old, old, friend, and to his face. It doesn't
cut it on-line. When you are not being completely silly, you seem to
turn to being viscious and spiteful, you have no sense of humor. I'm
very glad I don't have to deal with you in person. I think I could meet
face to face, with almost anyone on this group, even the fruitcakes (no,
I'm not saying gay, I mean whackos), and hold a reasonable conversation,
for a few minutes at least. With anyone excpet you, that is.

You, sirrah, have proven yourself to be a cad, and a bounder, and
should be reviled by all present. You offend me.

JOAT
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
- Phil Pastoret

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 10:05 PM

05/05/2004 1:51 AM

LOL! Now I'm a cad! :) Are you SURE you know the meaning of
the word? I have LOT'S of principles. One is to spar with
you with half my brain in sleep mode. I called someone
vile names? oh, the inhumanity of it all!! A bounder? Now
that's one I'd have to look up. You've been at the
thesaurus rex again, haven't you J T, alias JOAT. I still
think you wimped out by changing your screen name. That's
bowing to the whims of the terrorist twit who was messing
with you. He was a vile SOB, and I take exception to you
lumping me in with the likes of him. I thought you might be
above such dastardly deeds. I'm off in a huff.

P.S. Joat for all the smack I give you and all you give in
return, I think you are ok. Don't tell anyone though, or my
reputation will be shot worse than it already is.

Cheers!


dave

J T wrote:

> Tue, May 4, 2004, 10:05pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> burbled:
> <snip> that was a joke... Hardly anyone can tell when I'm joking around
> here. <snip>
>
> So, your idea of joking is to call someone vile, and demeaning,
> names, then expect them to find that humorous? Is that it? That might,
> I say MIGHT, work with an old, old, friend, and to his face. It doesn't
> cut it on-line. When you are not being completely silly, you seem to
> turn to being viscious and spiteful, you have no sense of humor. I'm
> very glad I don't have to deal with you in person. I think I could meet
> face to face, with almost anyone on this group, even the fruitcakes (no,
> I'm not saying gay, I mean whackos), and hold a reasonable conversation,
> for a few minutes at least. With anyone excpet you, that is.
>
> You, sirrah, have proven yourself to be a cad, and a bounder, and
> should be reviled by all present. You offend me.
>
> JOAT
> If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
> pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
> - Phil Pastoret
>

JJ

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 05/05/2004 1:51 AM

05/05/2004 11:11 AM

Wed, May 5, 2004, 1:51am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbled:
LOL! Now I'm a cad! :) Are you SURE you know the meaning of the word?

Indeed I do, but apparently you need help, so:
From WordNet (r) 1.7 (wn)
cad n 1: someone who is morally reprehensible

I have LOT'S of principles.

I don't recall addressing principles. Howwever, I don't doubt you
do have some. They can be good, or ill, tho. The ones you exhibit
here, I wouldn't term good.

One is to spar with you with half my brain in sleep mode. =A0

Well, that explains some things..

I called someone vile names? oh, the inhumanity of it all!! A bounder?
Now that's one I'd have to look up.

No doubt.

You've been at the thesaurus rex again, haven't you J T, alias JOAT.

No, I don't require one. And, I have always signed my postings as
JOAT, no alias involved. As for the J T, it's clear enought, if you
think about it for awhile. Or, perhaps not. Doesn't matter, it stays -
until I see fit to change it. Regardles, I'll still be signing my posts
as JOAT.

I still think you wimped out by changing your screen name. That's bowing
to the whims of the terrorist twit who was messing with you.

OK, that's your opinion.

He was a vile SOB,

He/she was/is a pathetic little coward.

and I take exception to you lumping me in with the likes of him.

No, you are in a different lump.

I thought you might be above such dastardly deeds. I'm off in a huff.

I see you need to look up dastardly too. If you can't get a huff,
go off in a minute and a huff.

P.S. Joat for all the smack I give you and all you give in return, I
think you are ok. Don't tell anyone though, or my reputation will be
shot worse than it already is.

Yeah, sure, right, and I bet you'd hug me if I was there, too. To
that I respond, "and the white horse you rode in on".

JOAT
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
- Phil Pastoret

LG

"Lee Gordon"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 05/05/2004 1:51 AM

05/05/2004 4:32 PM

JOAT ...

<< I see you need to look up dastardly too. If you can't get a huff,
go off in a minute and a huff.>>

You forgot to add "I'd horsewhip you if I had a horse."

Lee


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BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 05/05/2004 1:51 AM

05/05/2004 6:41 PM

Joat, Joat, Joat. I say you are "ok" and you respond with,
"and the white horse...". Now WHO is being the "cad"?
Who's being churlish?

you must use a different dictionary than I do. Here is a
definition of "cad": A man whose behavior is unprincipled or
dishonorable.

NOW do you see why I mentioned I have principles?

dave

J T wrote:

> P.S. Joat for all the smack I give you and all you give in return, I
> think you are ok. Don't tell anyone though, or my reputation will be
> shot worse than it already is.
>
> Yeah, sure, right, and I bet you'd hug me if I was there, too. To
> that I respond, "and the white horse you rode in on".
>
> JOAT
> If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
> pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
> - Phil Pastoret
>

AB

Andrew Barss

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 10:05 PM

06/05/2004 5:02 AM

Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
: LOL! Now I'm a cad! :) Are you SURE you know the meaning of
: the word? I have LOT'S of principles.

Nice non-spelling, ass*ole.

- Andy BArss

b

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 10:05 PM

06/05/2004 10:51 AM

On Thu, 6 May 2004 05:02:20 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>: LOL! Now I'm a cad! :) Are you SURE you know the meaning of
>: the word? I have LOT'S of principles.
>
>Nice non-spelling, ass*ole.
>
> - Andy BArss


Hmmm...
Andy, a couple of things to think about.


you aren't gonna accomplish anything with dave, except perhaps blowing
off a little steam. whose .sig line here is it that talks about
debating idiots?

when you keep quoting the idiot you effectively bypass my (and
others') killfiles, while worsening the overall sygnal to noise ratio
here.

please do not feed the trolls....
Bridger

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 10:05 PM

07/05/2004 4:01 AM

in other words he's telling you what to do.

dave

[email protected] wrote:

> On Thu, 6 May 2004 05:02:20 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Barss
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>: LOL! Now I'm a cad! :) Are you SURE you know the meaning of
>>: the word? I have LOT'S of principles.
>>
>>Nice non-spelling, ass*ole.
>>
>> - Andy BArss
>
>
>
> Hmmm...
> Andy, a couple of things to think about.
>
>
> you aren't gonna accomplish anything with dave, except perhaps blowing
> off a little steam. whose .sig line here is it that talks about
> debating idiots?
>
> when you keep quoting the idiot you effectively bypass my (and
> others') killfiles, while worsening the overall sygnal to noise ratio
> here.
>
> please do not feed the trolls....
> Bridger

MS

Mo' Sawdust

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 4:54 AM

More than a few do. Might be the hockey influence. ;-)

Speaking of hockey, it is not a contact sport, it is
a collision sport. And a traditional wooden stick
still results in a harder shot than those new fangled composite
things.


> For people to understand my point of view, I am from Newfoundland. OK, a
> few Canadians will understand anyway.


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di

dave in fairfax

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 12:05 PM

Daniel wrote:
> How do I block him? My Netscape 7.1 filters don't seem to be doing
> anything, even with the correct email address :)

Pick up a copy of Nfilter/Netproxy from Robert and a set of
filters from Doug. If the filter doesn't have this line, add it.
* drop from:Bay Area Dave
Enough is enough,
Dave in Fairfax
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Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 2:27 PM

I got tired of seeing his foul-mouthed posts. period.

don't like me mentioning it here? tough. plonk me, or live
with it and quit your whining.

dave

J T wrote:

> Sun, May 2, 2004, 10:33pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> for some stange reasons burbles:
> <snip of totally nonsensical stuff>
>
> Drop by for a few minutes, and see this petty crap. Amazing,
> absolutely amazing. But, when you consider the source!
>
> Well, Homer, can't see why you would feel the need to ever post
> something like this, especially from another newsgroup here, like that.
> If you've got a hardon for Charlie, why not take it to e-mail? I've got
> a recipe for dried frog pills, if you're out. Or, perhaps they could
> spare some from the Bursar's supply.
>
> As far as the other guy, well, I'm a veteran too, a bit over 20
> years in my case, Army. But, I don't see any reason to doubt Charlie's
> word he was a marine.
> You might want to pass this along to him (not Charlie), it's Chosin
> Reservoir. The "res.", he put out there, is a thing, according to my
> dictionary. So when he writes Chosen Res., he's actually writing about
> a choice of a thing. Who says spelling doesn't matter?
>
> Sometimes it takes boiling it down to one succinct word, to get a
> point across. I don't know Charlie face to face, but we've had a few
> friendly e-mail conversations. I have no idea if we'd hit it off in
> person, but as of now, I have a favorable opinion of him, as I do with
> about everyone else here. Plus, I'm impressed with Charlie's writing
> skills. However, you do go out of your way to overstep the bounds,
> don't you? So, to you, I say, succinct word you.
>
> JOAT
> If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
> pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
> - Phil Pastoret
>

JJ

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 03/05/2004 2:27 PM

03/05/2004 8:33 PM

Mon, May 3, 2004, 2:27pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
burbled:
I got tired of seeing his foul-mouthed posts. period.
don't like me mentioning it here? tough. plonk me, or live with it and
quit your whining.

Homer, Homer, Homer. By now, even you should know I don't whine.

You must really be keeping close tabs on the man. Personally I
don't recall him saying such words here. But, I wasn't keeping track
either. Be easy enough to check. If I was interested. Which, I'm not.

Plonk you? Well, as I've informed you before, WebTV does not have
that capability. Perhaps one day. Still, even as rude, crude, and
lewd, as you are, I'm not sure if I would plonk you, even if I had the
capability; you are kinda fascinating, in a morbid sort of way. But,
meanwhile, I suggest you try a aeronautical interaction at a revolving
toroidal shaped pastry.

Or, you could simply "know" yourself.

JOAT
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
- Phil Pastoret

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 03/05/2004 2:27 PM

04/05/2004 1:19 AM

lewd??? Me?? you GOTTA be kidding, JOATY! sometimes rude;
never lewd. can you stop spreading lies??

dave

J T wrote:

> Mon, May 3, 2004, 2:27pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
> burbled:
> I got tired of seeing his foul-mouthed posts. period.
> don't like me mentioning it here? tough. plonk me, or live with it and
> quit your whining.
>
> Homer, Homer, Homer. By now, even you should know I don't whine.
>
> You must really be keeping close tabs on the man. Personally I
> don't recall him saying such words here. But, I wasn't keeping track
> either. Be easy enough to check. If I was interested. Which, I'm not.
>
> Plonk you? Well, as I've informed you before, WebTV does not have
> that capability. Perhaps one day. Still, even as rude, crude, and
> lewd, as you are, I'm not sure if I would plonk you, even if I had the
> capability; you are kinda fascinating, in a morbid sort of way. But,
> meanwhile, I suggest you try a aeronautical interaction at a revolving
> toroidal shaped pastry.
>
> Or, you could simply "know" yourself.
>
> JOAT
> If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
> pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
> - Phil Pastoret
>

JJ

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 1:19 AM

03/05/2004 11:47 PM

Tue, May 4, 2004, 1:19am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
whines:
lewd??? Me?? you GOTTA be kidding, JOATY! sometimes rude; never lewd.
can you stop spreading lies??

Well Homer, it was/is an opinion. And, seems to be pretty well
backed up pretty well by the dictionary. So, lewd it was, and lewd it
is.
"lewd"
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)
Lewd \Lewd\ (l[=3Du]d), a. [Compar. {Lewder} (-[~e]r); superl. {Lewdest}.]=

[{OE}. lewed, lewd, lay, ignorant, vile, <snip>
2. Belonging to the lower classes, or the rabble; idle and lawless; bad;
vicious. [Archaic] --Chaucer.

We'll take a group vote. Does that, or does that not describe
Homer, AKA Bay Area Dave?

JOAT
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
- Phil Pastoret

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 04/05/2004 1:19 AM

04/05/2004 6:08 PM

Describe? Hell, he could be the poster boy.

Art

"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Tue, May 4, 2004, 1:19am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay Area Dave)
whines:
lewd??? Me?? you GOTTA be kidding, JOATY! sometimes rude; never lewd.
can you stop spreading lies??

Well Homer, it was/is an opinion. And, seems to be pretty well
backed up pretty well by the dictionary. So, lewd it was, and lewd it
is.
"lewd"
From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) (web1913)
Lewd \Lewd\ (l[=u]d), a. [Compar. {Lewder} (-[~e]r); superl. {Lewdest}.]
[{OE}. lewed, lewd, lay, ignorant, vile, <snip>
2. Belonging to the lower classes, or the rabble; idle and lawless; bad;
vicious. [Archaic] --Chaucer.

We'll take a group vote. Does that, or does that not describe
Homer, AKA Bay Area Dave?

JOAT
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
- Phil Pastoret

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 8:00 AM

Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote
>
> I'm thinking now that it was and is an admission of powerlessness.

There was a time when I thought powerlessness referred to the
Neanderthal wooddorking practice of avoiding power tools. Thanks for
the reminder, Michael. Welcome to this meeting of BAD Baiters
Anonymous.

Hi, I'm Paddy, and I'm a BAD-Baiter.

(all say) "Hi Paddy!"

O'Deen

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 04/05/2004 8:00 AM

04/05/2004 3:03 PM

Paddy Olguin responds:

>> I'm thinking now that it was and is an admission of powerlessness.
>
>There was a time when I thought powerlessness referred to the
>Neanderthal wooddorking practice of avoiding power tools. Thanks for
>the reminder, Michael. Welcome to this meeting of BAD Baiters
>Anonymous.
>
>Hi, I'm Paddy, and I'm a BAD-Baiter.
>
>(all say) "Hi Paddy!"

I apologize in advance, but I can't resist:

"Hi, Master!"

Charlie Self
"The lust of avarice as so totally seized upon mankind that their wealth seems
rather to possess them than they possess their wealth." Pliny

WB

"Wood Butcher"

in reply to [email protected] (Patrick Olguin) on 04/05/2004 8:00 AM

04/05/2004 6:08 PM

You "beat" me to it.

Art

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Paddy Olguin responds:
>
> >> I'm thinking now that it was and is an admission of powerlessness.
> >
> >There was a time when I thought powerlessness referred to the
> >Neanderthal wooddorking practice of avoiding power tools. Thanks for
> >the reminder, Michael. Welcome to this meeting of BAD Baiters
> >Anonymous.
> >
> >Hi, I'm Paddy, and I'm a BAD-Baiter.
> >
> >(all say) "Hi Paddy!"
>
> I apologize in advance, but I can't resist:
>
> "Hi, Master!"
>
> Charlie Self
> "The lust of avarice as so totally seized upon mankind that their wealth seems
> rather to possess them than they possess their wealth." Pliny

pP

[email protected] (Patrick Olguin)

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

05/05/2004 3:18 PM

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote
>
> 1. We admitted we were powerless over BAD and that our filters had
> become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that an nntp client greater than ourselves could
restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of
tn as we understood it.

4. Made a searching and fearless google search of our rec.norm
postings.

5. Admitted to the Cabal, to ourselves and to another rec.normer, the
exact nature of our BAD-Baiting.

6. Were entirely ready to have Larr remove all of our feed-the-troll
proclivities.

7. Humbly asked tn to mark all BAD threads as read.

8. Made a list of all rec.normers we had flamed, and became willing to
make amends to all but BAD.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, especially if
we'd mentioned that dealing with BAD was like flicking a crusty
booger.

10. Continued to take personal inventory of our lumber, tools and
finishing supplies, and when we BAD-baited instead of tool/project
gloated, we promptly admitted it.

11. Sought through planing and medication to deny BAD's existence,
asking only for knowledge of the tn man page and the power to "nroff
-man | more" that to our screen.

12. Having had a Neanderthal wooddorking awakening as the result of
these steps, we tried to carry this message to other rec.normers, and
to practice these principles at least once in a while.

Thanks for letting me share.

O'Deen

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 3:02 AM

what the hell are you doing responding to me? Put me back
on your plonkee list ASAP. You and I are NOT on speaking
terms. Bye.

dave

Tom Watson wrote:

> On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>
> Lordy, what a piece of crap.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>
> Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

md

"mttt"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 3:33 PM


"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" <mbaglio<NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> guys. Then I found this thread, and it made me reflect on your
> "Amish" post. When I first read that post, I thought about how
> powerful a punitive measure that shunning thing is. I think now,
> though, that I was wrong. I'm thinking now that it was and is an
> admission of powerlessness.

I respectfully disagree. Shunning is appropriate. He is and shall forever be
shunned. Shunning simply requires *us* to be strong. Very, very strong.

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

02/05/2004 7:06 PM

On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:

More of the usual from Boy Dave.

Lordy, what a piece of crap.





Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

JJ

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 10:00 AM

Sun, May 2, 2004, 10:33pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (Bay=A0Area=A0Dave)
for some stange reasons burbles:
<snip of totally nonsensical stuff>

Drop by for a few minutes, and see this petty crap. Amazing,
absolutely amazing. But, when you consider the source!

Well, Homer, can't see why you would feel the need to ever post
something like this, especially from another newsgroup here, like that.
If you've got a hardon for Charlie, why not take it to e-mail? I've got
a recipe for dried frog pills, if you're out. Or, perhaps they could
spare some from the Bursar's supply.

As far as the other guy, well, I'm a veteran too, a bit over 20
years in my case, Army. But, I don't see any reason to doubt Charlie's
word he was a marine.
You might want to pass this along to him (not Charlie), it's Chosin
Reservoir. The "res.", he put out there, is a thing, according to my
dictionary. So when he writes Chosen Res., he's actually writing about
a choice of a thing. Who says spelling doesn't matter?

Sometimes it takes boiling it down to one succinct word, to get a
point across. I don't know Charlie face to face, but we've had a few
friendly e-mail conversations. I have no idea if we'd hit it off in
person, but as of now, I have a favorable opinion of him, as I do with
about everyone else here. Plus, I'm impressed with Charlie's writing
skills. However, you do go out of your way to overstep the bounds,
don't you? So, to you, I say, succinct word you.

JOAT
If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your
pocket and then giving Fido only two of them.
- Phil Pastoret

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

05/05/2004 7:35 PM

On 5 May 2004 15:18:18 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

<snipaliscious>

>5. Admitted to the Cabal, to ourselves and to another rec.normer, the
>exact nature of our BAD-Baiting.

<snipatrocity>

Having read this, I am so emotional just now that I am sure that I
will not express myself well but,

Didn't Boy Dave once say that he had "baited breath"?


Just checking in.

And thanks for sharing.



Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 4:49 AM

:)

gotcha <g!>

Rob (on the udder coast)

--


http://www.robswoodworking.com

"Paul Kierstead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:pmkierst-C4050B.20103902052004@nntp.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> In article <KGelc.59264$%[email protected]>,
> <snipped>>
> For people to understand my point of view, I am from Newfoundland. OK, a
> few Canadians will understand anyway.

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 10:16 AM

"Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>" wrote in message

> I believe that a profound change occurred somewhere in me when I
> realized that from that point forward, my time was simply going to be
> too precious to waste on anyone who weighed on my soul.
>
> This is not to say that I have surrounded myself with "yes-men," but
> rather that those who I have allowed to remain in my life have shown
> me that when they question what I'm doing or why I'm doing it, it is
> with the purpose of promoting my well-being, rather than a means to
> the end of bringing me down to their level of spiritual desolation.
>
> It also means that I must admit, at last, that I am _not_ strong. I
> cannot carry their weight. I must move, and I have not the time nor
> strength to become bogged down. All the time I have spent trying to
> enlighten, encourage and change those who wish to remain in the
> darkness has prevented me from remembering that the focus and the
> force of the Desiderata's opening line "Go placidly..." is:
>
> Go.
>
> People who are worth my time and my small strength have no need to
> slow me down in order to advance themselves. If that means that those
> whom I walk with are fewer in number, it also means spending less time
> waiting by the side of the road for the self-absorbed to catch up.
>
> I haven't the time nor the strength, I must go.

Well done! Beautifully written, and profoundly beautiful .... and with
regard to this thread, the equivalent of discovering the Hope diamond in a
pile of crap.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/13/04

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 3:15 AM

I swear but I don't make a habit of doing it on-line. Have
a little class, man. Just because I argue with folks
doesn't mean I have to use the f-word to get my point
across. If I wrote for a major publication, I sure as heck
wouldn't go on-line and flame people the way Charlie does.
He TRIED to embarrass me on other newsgroups and I didn't
appreciate it. Hence, I'll rip on him any chance I get. I
take sole responsibility for embarrassing myself; I don't
need his assistance. Don't you ever wonder to yourself WHY
I give him such a bad time??

dave

Paul Kierstead wrote:

> In article <KGelc.59264$%[email protected]>,
> Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>[Taken from rec.photo.digital]
>
>
>>Fuck you, doggie. You can't even spell it.
>>
>>Charlie Self
>>"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
>>Napoleon Bonaparte"
>>
>>Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?
>> I'm sure it comes in handy when explaining all about "Hand
>>Drills" and other woodworking tools.
>
>
> Ok, I actually, I have more to add: I don't trust any man who never
> swears, and I sure as hell have little respect for one who can't swear
> creatively. Charlie could have done better, I am sure.
>
> For people to understand my point of view, I am from Newfoundland. OK, a
> few Canadians will understand anyway.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 9:53 PM

I respect anyone who can admit to what they've done. I'm
not saying I'd buy you a beer, but I'll give credit
where/when it is due.

dave

Patrick Olguin wrote:
> Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote
>
>>I'm thinking now that it was and is an admission of powerlessness.
>
>
> There was a time when I thought powerlessness referred to the
> Neanderthal wooddorking practice of avoiding power tools. Thanks for
> the reminder, Michael. Welcome to this meeting of BAD Baiters
> Anonymous.
>
> Hi, I'm Paddy, and I'm a BAD-Baiter.
>
> (all say) "Hi Paddy!"
>
> O'Deen

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 3:03 AM

actually, I've been pretty darn busy! :)

dave

Doug Miller wrote:

> In article <KGelc.59264$%[email protected]>, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[Taken from rec.photo.digital]
>>
>>Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?
>
>
> Dave, you goofed up here. It's *my* week to watch Charlie. *Your* turn isn't
> til *next* week.
>
> Aintcha got nuthin' better to do? Yer SWMBO outta town or something?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
>
> For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter,
> send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
> You must use your REAL email address to get a response.
>
>

Dk

Dan

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

06/05/2004 1:40 AM


Don't know who coined these but they are great!

WoodworkerDan
Dan Harriman

Tom Watson <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 5 May 2004 15:18:18 -0700, [email protected]
> wrote:
>
><snipaliscious>
>
><snipatrocity>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 1:49 AM

On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?

Sometimes Dave, I prefer you in the troll suit.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Andy Dingley on 03/05/2004 1:49 AM

03/05/2004 12:56 AM

Andy Dingley responds:

>On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?
>
>Sometimes Dave, I prefer you in the troll suit.

He can't go tell somebody's mommy when he's in that suit.

Charlie Self
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Disraeli as
quoted by Mark Twain

PS

"Peter Shull"

in reply to Andy Dingley on 03/05/2004 1:49 AM

03/05/2004 4:20 AM

Which iteration of BAD is this? The idioteration, or the other one? Or is
there another one? Anybody else think that this is getting complex?

TIA

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Andy Dingley on 03/05/2004 1:49 AM

03/05/2004 3:17 AM

paranoid Charlie again.

dave

Charlie Self wrote:

> Andy Dingley responds:

>
> He can't go tell somebody's mommy when he's in that suit.
>
> Charlie Self
> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Disraeli as
> quoted by Mark Twain

rR

in reply to Andy Dingley on 03/05/2004 1:49 AM

03/05/2004 3:21 AM

"Peter Shull" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Which iteration of BAD is this? The idioteration, or the other one? Or is
> there another one? Anybody else think that this is getting complex?
>

Not complex at all. They're all the same person.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Andy Dingley on 03/05/2004 1:49 AM

03/05/2004 2:04 PM

Rich, full of lies and stoopid as ever...

dave

Rich wrote:
> "Peter Shull" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Which iteration of BAD is this? The idioteration, or the other one? Or is
>>there another one? Anybody else think that this is getting complex?
>>
>
>
> Not complex at all. They're all the same person.

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

06/05/2004 12:16 AM

could be. Just like Charlie once wrote an article entitled
"Hand drill...", but blamed it on his editor, when pressed
for an explanation. Way to go Charlie. Don't you love a
guy who blames others for his screw ups? He couldn't just
admit he blew it. That would be the mark of someone with class.

dave

Tom Watson wrote:

> On 5 May 2004 15:18:18 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
> wrote:
>
> <snipaliscious>
>
>>5. Admitted to the Cabal, to ourselves and to another rec.normer, the
>>exact nature of our BAD-Baiting.
>
>
> <snipatrocity>
>
> Having read this, I am so emotional just now that I am sure that I
> will not express myself well but,
>
> Didn't Boy Dave once say that he had "baited breath"?
>
>
> Just checking in.
>
> And thanks for sharing.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Tom.
>
> Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
> tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
> http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

GM

"Greg Millen"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 3:55 AM

"Slowhand" wrote in message ...
> Bay area who?
> SH - ploinked him long ago.

def'n:

Plonk - the sound of a decent turd hitting the water at the bottom of the
killfile.

Ploink - the sound of a lightweight turd hitting the water at the bottom of
the killfile.

Plank - the sound made when a troll is physically located by a wrecker with
a tubufower.

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 6:18 AM




"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Yet you all seem to play right into his trolls every single day...
> A dozen of you have all promised to ignore him but I see a few
> of your posts about him (or quoting him) every day. <sigh>
>
> Suggestion: Don't whine, just plonk. We'll all have better days.

Agreed! I actually UN-plonked him for a couple weeks, just to see what all
the shootin' was about. Couldn't take any more, returned him to the bit
bucket.

--
Nahmie
The first myth of management is that management exists.




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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 6:18 AM

03/05/2004 11:36 AM

Nahmie notes:

>"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Yet you all seem to play right into his trolls every single day...
>> A dozen of you have all promised to ignore him but I see a few
>> of your posts about him (or quoting him) every day. <sigh>
>>
>> Suggestion: Don't whine, just plonk. We'll all have better days.
>
>Agreed! I actually UN-plonked him for a couple weeks, just to see what all
>the shootin' was about. Couldn't take any more, returned him to the bit
>bucket.
>

Bait bucket?

I had him plonked here and in rec.digital.photo, but he sneaked by in the photo
group with one of his brilliant denunciations on a subject in which he had
neither interest nor knowledge. So he pissed me off, something I don't usually
allow to happen. Normally, I'm off his back because he seems like a very sad
case, but this time....

Charlie Self
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Disraeli as
quoted by Mark Twain

DW

Doug Winterburn

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 6:18 AM

04/05/2004 12:19 AM

On Mon, 03 May 2004 18:50:57 -0500, J&KCopeland wrote:


> bit bucket: n.
> [very common]

You didn't mention WOM - Write Only Memory

-Doug

--
"A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always
depend on the support of Paul." - George Bernard Shaw

Jj

"J&KCopeland"

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 6:18 AM

03/05/2004 6:50 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nahmie notes:
>
> >"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> Yet you all seem to play right into his trolls every single day...
> >> A dozen of you have all promised to ignore him but I see a few
> >> of your posts about him (or quoting him) every day. <sigh>
> >>
> >> Suggestion: Don't whine, just plonk. We'll all have better days.
> >
> >Agreed! I actually UN-plonked him for a couple weeks, just to see what
all
> >the shootin' was about. Couldn't take any more, returned him to the bit
> >bucket.
> >
>
> Bait bucket?
>

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/go01.html

bit bucket: n.
[very common]
1. The universal data sink (originally, the mythical receptacle used to
catch bits when they fall off the end of a register during a shift
instruction). Discarded, lost, or destroyed data is said to have gone to the
bit bucket. On Unix, often used for /dev/null. Sometimes amplified as the
Great Bit Bucket in the Sky.
2. The place where all lost mail and news messages eventually go. The
selection is performed according to Finagle's Law; important mail is much
more likely to end up in the bit bucket than junk mail, which has an almost
100% probability of getting delivered. Routing to the bit bucket is
automatically performed by mail-transfer agents, news systems, and the lower
layers of the network.
3. The ideal location for all unwanted mail responses: "Flames about this
article to the bit bucket." Such a request is guaranteed to overflow one's
mailbox with flames.
4. Excuse for all mail that has not been sent. "I mailed you those figures
last week; they must have landed in the bit bucket." Compare black hole.
This term is used purely in jest. It is based on the fanciful notion that
bits are objects that are not destroyed but only misplaced. This appears to
have been a mutation of an earlier term 'bit box', about which the same
legend was current; old-time hackers also report that trainees used to be
told that when the CPU stored bits into memory it was actually pulling them
"out of the bit box". See also chad box.
Another variant of this legend has it that, as a consequence of the "parity
preservation law", the number of 1 bits that go to the bit bucket must equal
the number of 0 bits. Any imbalance results in bits filling up the bit
bucket. A qualified computer technician can empty a full bit bucket as part
of scheduled maintenance.
The source for all these meanings, is, historically, the fact that the chad
box on a paper-tape punch was sometimes called a bit bucket.

James....

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to "Norman D. Crow" on 03/05/2004 6:18 AM

04/05/2004 6:23 AM





"J&KCopeland" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Nahmie notes:
> >
> > >"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > >> Yet you all seem to play right into his trolls every single day...
> > >> A dozen of you have all promised to ignore him but I see a few
> > >> of your posts about him (or quoting him) every day. <sigh>
> > >>
> > >> Suggestion: Don't whine, just plonk. We'll all have better days.
> > >
> > >Agreed! I actually UN-plonked him for a couple weeks, just to see what
> all
> > >the shootin' was about. Couldn't take any more, returned him to the bit
> > >bucket.
> > >
> >
> > Bait bucket?
> >
>
> http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/go01.html
>
> bit bucket: n.
> [very common]
> 1. The universal data sink (originally, the mythical receptacle used to
> catch bits when they fall off the end of a register during a shift
> instruction). Discarded, lost, or destroyed data is said to have gone to
the
> bit bucket. On Unix, often used for /dev/null. Sometimes amplified as the
> Great Bit Bucket in the Sky.

<Snippage of definition>

ROTFLMAO!

Thank you Jim. I worked in the industry for some 27yr.(NCR Corp. large
system maintenance), and had never heard the *official* definition.

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Andrew Barss

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

06/05/2004 5:00 AM

Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
: could be. Just like Charlie once wrote an article entitled
: "Hand drill...", but blamed it on his editor, when pressed
: for an explanation.


Please provide details. Or, alternatively, fuck off.


-- Andy Barss

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 8:30 PM

tell SH it's "p-l-o-n-k-e-d"; NOT "p-l-o-i-n-k-e-d" If he
is gonna do it, do it right!

dave

Slowhand wrote:

> "Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>>
>>Lordy, what a piece of crap.
>
>
> Bay area who?
> SH - ploinked him long ago.
>
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 3:11 AM

you sound like a broken record. we've been done this road
before. get a new writer.

dave

Greg O wrote:
> "Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>>
>>Lordy, what a piece of crap.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> It think it is that time of the month again for BAD.
> I tried to to have a conversation here with him in another thread, and it
> just turned to shit.
> Go figure!
> Then this thread, just to try and take a cheap shot at Charlie, A person
> that has more class in his little finger than BAD will ever have!
> It takes allot for me to plonk someone, but BAD may have reached that point!
> If he keeps it up, there will be no one to respond to his posts!
> Greg
>

MB

Michael Baglio @nc.rr.com>

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 5:23 AM

On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:06:28 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>Lordy, what a piece of crap.

Been a rainy couple of days here in the Carolinas, and daughter LOML
shows up with a beat-to-hell particle-board POS dresser she picked up
for a few dollars at a yard sale for the apartment she's moving into.
She gives me a couple of those Daddy-killer eyelash bats and asks me
if I can help her "fix it up", so off we go to the shop and spend the
better part of the entire day cutting out all the cancer and
rebuilding the thing from the ground up.

It looks, of course, like "Frankendresser", with it's old particle
board carcase and new SYP baseboards. It's got two rows of plugs now,
up and down the sides where we had to drill and screw the frames that
hold the drawers, 'cause gluing "endgrain" on particleboard wasn't any
better an idea when this piece of junk was made than it would be
today, so we drilled it, and screwed it, and plugged it.

The whole thing was about to fall apart under its own weight, but it's
sturdy now. And it works.

And I got to spend six hours with my daughter, who I'd do anything
for.

During the quiet times today, when we were focused on the task and
weren't talking much, I got to thinking and remembering what it was
like for me at her age, and how much I've learned about what's
important since then, and how much more I have to yet to learn, and
mostly about how very much is just beyond my control.

It was in that kind of mood that I found myself sitting down to catch
up on the newsgroup. Been busy the past couple of weeks. Missed you
guys. Then I found this thread, and it made me reflect on your
"Amish" post. When I first read that post, I thought about how
powerful a punitive measure that shunning thing is. I think now,
though, that I was wrong. I'm thinking now that it was and is an
admission of powerlessness.

And all this got me to thinking 'bout something I'd written to a
friend some time ago, and forgotten about until you posted. Brought
it home again, and for that I'm pretty grateful.

----------------------------

I believe that a profound change occurred somewhere in me when I
realized that from that point forward, my time was simply going to be
too precious to waste on anyone who weighed on my soul.

This is not to say that I have surrounded myself with "yes-men," but
rather that those who I have allowed to remain in my life have shown
me that when they question what I'm doing or why I'm doing it, it is
with the purpose of promoting my well-being, rather than a means to
the end of bringing me down to their level of spiritual desolation.

It also means that I must admit, at last, that I am _not_ strong. I
cannot carry their weight. I must move, and I have not the time nor
strength to become bogged down. All the time I have spent trying to
enlighten, encourage and change those who wish to remain in the
darkness has prevented me from remembering that the focus and the
force of the Desiderata's opening line "Go placidly..." is:

Go.

People who are worth my time and my small strength have no need to
slow me down in order to advance themselves. If that means that those
whom I walk with are fewer in number, it also means spending less time
waiting by the side of the road for the self-absorbed to catch up.

I haven't the time nor the strength, I must go.

Michael

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 6:05 PM

On 4 May 2004 08:00:24 -0700, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:

>Michael Baglio <mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> wrote
>>
>> I'm thinking now that it was and is an admission of powerlessness.
>
>There was a time when I thought powerlessness referred to the
>Neanderthal wooddorking practice of avoiding power tools. Thanks for
>the reminder, Michael. Welcome to this meeting of BAD Baiters
>Anonymous.
>
>Hi, I'm Paddy, and I'm a BAD-Baiter.
>
>(all say) "Hi Paddy!"
>
>O'Deen



1. We admitted we were powerless over BAD and that our filters had
become unmanageable.



Regards,
Tom.

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.)
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 12:04 AM

In article <KGelc.59264$%[email protected]>,
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Taken from rec.photo.digital]
>
> Fuck you, doggie. You can't even spell it.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
> Napoleon Bonaparte"
>
> Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?
> I'm sure it comes in handy when explaining all about "Hand
> Drills" and other woodworking tools.

I shall demonstrate my own. Who gives a flying fuck if Charlie choose to
insult someone on rec.photo.digital? Or for that matter, rec.woodworking
or alt.I.am.secretly.a.lesibian?

Sheesh man, I think you get a little too much abuse sometimes, but any
abuse you get for this one you have coming. If they guy has a problem,
he can take it up.

PK

Paul Kierstead

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 12:10 AM

In article <KGelc.59264$%[email protected]>,
Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Taken from rec.photo.digital]

> Fuck you, doggie. You can't even spell it.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
> Napoleon Bonaparte"
>
> Doesn't Charlie have great command of the English language?
> I'm sure it comes in handy when explaining all about "Hand
> Drills" and other woodworking tools.

Ok, I actually, I have more to add: I don't trust any man who never
swears, and I sure as hell have little respect for one who can't swear
creatively. Charlie could have done better, I am sure.

For people to understand my point of view, I am from Newfoundland. OK, a
few Canadians will understand anyway.

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Paul Kierstead on 03/05/2004 12:10 AM

03/05/2004 12:37 AM

Paul Kierstead responds:

>Ok, I actually, I have more to add: I don't trust any man who never
>swears, and I sure as hell have little respect for one who can't swear
>creatively. Charlie could have done better, I am sure.
>
>For people to understand my point of view, I am from Newfoundland. OK, a
>few Canadians will understand anyway.

I should have told him that since he talked like a dogface, he should stick to
humping (no need for graphics here) a fire hydrant. As should our boy Dave, who
is a true piece of slime.

Charlie Self
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." Disraeli as
quoted by Mark Twain

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 8:03 AM

On Mon, 03 May 2004 05:23:29 GMT, Michael Baglio
<mbaglio<NOSPAM>@nc.rr.com> brought forth from the murky depths:

-snip of Frankendresser repair-
>And I got to spend six hours with my daughter, who I'd do anything
>for.

Wonderful!
Quality time amid the termite barf. Whoda thunk it?


>I believe that a profound change occurred somewhere in me when I
>realized that from that point forward, my time was simply going to be
>too precious to waste on anyone who weighed on my soul.

Excellent, Michael. That's precisely why my twit filter is full,
my TV set is off, and the newspaper gets only a cursory daily exam.
Their 50:1 negative to positive ratio makes them not worth the time
or energy.


>People who are worth my time and my small strength have no need to
>slow me down in order to advance themselves. If that means that those
>whom I walk with are fewer in number, it also means spending less time
>waiting by the side of the road for the self-absorbed to catch up.
>
>I haven't the time nor the strength, I must go.

Amen.

Your full post (which I snipped to shreds here) is a definite keeper!
Thank you for reposting it.

-----
= The wealth of reality, cannot be seen from your locality. =
http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

02/05/2004 9:13 PM

On Sun, 02 May 2004 19:06:28 -0400, Tom Watson <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:

>On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>
>Lordy, what a piece of crap.

Yet you all seem to play right into his trolls every single day...
A dozen of you have all promised to ignore him but I see a few
of your posts about him (or quoting him) every day. <sigh>

Suggestion: Don't whine, just plonk. We'll all have better days.

-----
= The wealth of reality, cannot be seen from your locality. =
http://www.diversify.com Comprehensive Website Development

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

03/05/2004 4:51 AM

Nope....I don't.

Yur pushin' a few friendly buttons Dave....may want to stroll out to the
porch for a beer and set in the shade for a while...

Rob

--


http://www.robswoodworking.com

"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
<snipped>

> Don't you ever wonder to yourself WHY
> I give him such a bad time??
>

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Bay Area Dave on 02/05/2004 10:33 PM

04/05/2004 2:22 AM

I see Tom WasteOne is still displaying his considerable charm.

dave

Daniel wrote:

> How do I block him? My Netscape 7.1 filters don't seem to be doing
> anything, even with the correct email address :)
>
> Tom Watson wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 02 May 2004 22:33:14 GMT, Tailgunner Dave <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> More of the usual from Boy Dave.
>>
>> Lordy, what a piece of crap.
>
>


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