I am just starting and have everything to learn. Someday I would like to be
able to build whatever pieces I need for my home instead of going to Ikea
for them. Or make things that will heirloom in my family. But, first I need
to learn how.
So, after much research, I have made a list of projects to develop the
skills I will need to reach my goal of making fine furniture for my home
(and possibly family and friends).
First off, jigs and fixtures. Not only would these get my feet wet, but they
would then make future projects easier and more accurate.
Next stop, shop items like storage cabinets, shelving, workbench, etc. This
would have some of the basics needed in joinery and finishing but if I screw
it up or it comes out ugly, who cares. It's in the garage where no one will
see it but me.
Then onto outdoor furniture (patio table chairs, Adirondack chairs, porch
glider, etc).
And finally (hopefully), real furniture (bedroom dressers, kitchen cabinets,
dining/coffee tables, etc).
I am open to comments. Does this seem like a good approach?
Advantages/Disadvantages? Other suggestions?
Thanks,
codepath
Bob S. wrote:
> machining each type. So try to mix your projects so you use some kiln
> dried, rough sawn hardwoods (oak, maple) that are relatively cheap from
> the mill.
And he's going to do that with no planer or jointer how? I don't think he
mentioned owning any hand planes either.
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I forgot to mention (and I understand that this will limit the range of
projects and types of joints) that my current tool list consists of only a
circular saw, jigsaw, table saw, miter saw, cordless drill, and a palm
sander (no jointer, planer, drill press, router, or biscuit joiner).
And so, I will not be able to do much in the way of wood preparation from
rough lumber. Given that, what sort of wood do I need to shop for (S2S, S4S,
etc)?
Also, I will (obviously) be working from plans gathered from the mags
(ShopNotes, PopWood, Wood, etc) and/or from reputable sources (PlansNOW,
WoodMall, etc). Not quite ready to take on Norm yet.
codepath
"codepath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am just starting and have everything to learn. Someday I would like to
be
> able to build whatever pieces I need for my home instead of going to Ikea
> for them. Or make things that will heirloom in my family. But, first I
need
> to learn how.
>
> So, after much research, I have made a list of projects to develop the
> skills I will need to reach my goal of making fine furniture for my home
> (and possibly family and friends).
>
> First off, jigs and fixtures. Not only would these get my feet wet, but
they
> would then make future projects easier and more accurate.
>
> Next stop, shop items like storage cabinets, shelving, workbench, etc.
This
> would have some of the basics needed in joinery and finishing but if I
screw
> it up or it comes out ugly, who cares. It's in the garage where no one
will
> see it but me.
>
> Then onto outdoor furniture (patio table chairs, Adirondack chairs, porch
> glider, etc).
>
> And finally (hopefully), real furniture (bedroom dressers, kitchen
cabinets,
> dining/coffee tables, etc).
>
> I am open to comments. Does this seem like a good approach?
> Advantages/Disadvantages? Other suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> codepath
>
>
Robert, you may want to read this...
http://tinyurl.com/yrr3e
Also, I checked on the Consumer Reports site and could not find that they
ever tested this particular brand.
Bob S.
"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I have yet to see a vacuum cleaner designed for household cleaning that
> >would work well in a shop environment without really messing it up.
Check
> >out Consumer Reports and see what they recommend.
>
> The 'Filter Queen" brand comes close. It's a "cyclone" design. picks up
> 2" nails, 3/8" nuts, etc. *without* any damage. And still filters stuff
> down to the size of smoke particles out of the air. Doesn't to wet
> pick-up, and has fairly small capacity, but, it's bagless, so it doesn't
> cost extra to dump it often.
>
>
I agree and will add that you are most likely to use soft woods for a lot of
those projects rather than hardwoods and there's a world of difference in
machining each type. So try to mix your projects so you use some kiln
dried, rough sawn hardwoods (oak, maple) that are relatively cheap from the
mill.
Bob S.
"Jeremy Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That sounds pretty good. The only thing is, quite a few jigs need to be
> pretty accurate themselves. I think in general, those might be best made
> when they are needed. It will slow down a few projects, but once they're
> made, you'll have them for future use. Where I work, a common first
project
> is a cutting board. It's a good way to get practice with lots of machines
> and techniques. I think a couple small projects like that are usually the
> best thing to start with. If you're a quick learner, then after those you
> should be ready to do something a little more challenging.
>
> -JB
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Robert, you may want to read this...
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yrr3e
I haven't had occasion to look at new pricing for 'em in 30 years.
Back then they were considerably less than Kirby, and price-competitive
with brands like Royal, and Rainbow. Definitely pricier than the more
pedestrian brands, like, say, Hoover or Eureka.
I wouldn't buy one new. Then I wouldn't buy a Kirby new, either. :)
OTOH, I know people who's judgement I generally _do_ trust, who *did*
buy Kirby vacuums, new.
Filter Queens _are_ available at 'rational' prices on the used market,
however.
>Also, I checked on the Consumer Reports site and could not find that they
>ever tested this particular brand.
I speak from first-hand experience, as to its construction, pick-up
capabilities, smoke filtering, etc. I've owned one (bought it used) for
going on 10 years now. Was introduced to 'em about 30 years ago, when
a duplicate bridge club I played at got one -- to use as a 'smoke remover'.
It sat in a corner of the room, and ran the entire 3-1/2 hours of play.
Made an *incredible* difference in the smoke levels, and was practically
as quiet as the refrigerator.
>"Robert Bonomi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >I have yet to see a vacuum cleaner designed for household cleaning that
>> >would work well in a shop environment without really messing it up.
>Check
>> >out Consumer Reports and see what they recommend.
>>
>> The 'Filter Queen" brand comes close. It's a "cyclone" design. picks up
>> 2" nails, 3/8" nuts, etc. *without* any damage. And still filters stuff
>> down to the size of smoke particles out of the air. Doesn't to wet
>> pick-up, and has fairly small capacity, but, it's bagless, so it doesn't
>> cost extra to dump it often.
In article <[email protected]>,
Bob S. <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have yet to see a vacuum cleaner designed for household cleaning that
>would work well in a shop environment without really messing it up. Check
>out Consumer Reports and see what they recommend.
The 'Filter Queen" brand comes close. It's a "cyclone" design. picks up
2" nails, 3/8" nuts, etc. *without* any damage. And still filters stuff
down to the size of smoke particles out of the air. Doesn't to wet
pick-up, and has fairly small capacity, but, it's bagless, so it doesn't
cost extra to dump it often.
That sounds pretty good. The only thing is, quite a few jigs need to be
pretty accurate themselves. I think in general, those might be best made
when they are needed. It will slow down a few projects, but once they're
made, you'll have them for future use. Where I work, a common first project
is a cutting board. It's a good way to get practice with lots of machines
and techniques. I think a couple small projects like that are usually the
best thing to start with. If you're a quick learner, then after those you
should be ready to do something a little more challenging.
-JB
"codepath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am just starting and have everything to learn. Someday I would like to
be
> able to build whatever pieces I need for my home instead of going to Ikea
> for them. Or make things that will heirloom in my family. But, first I
need
> to learn how.
>
> So, after much research, I have made a list of projects to develop the
> skills I will need to reach my goal of making fine furniture for my home
> (and possibly family and friends).
>
> First off, jigs and fixtures. Not only would these get my feet wet, but
they
> would then make future projects easier and more accurate.
>
> Next stop, shop items like storage cabinets, shelving, workbench, etc.
This
> would have some of the basics needed in joinery and finishing but if I
screw
> it up or it comes out ugly, who cares. It's in the garage where no one
will
> see it but me.
>
> Then onto outdoor furniture (patio table chairs, Adirondack chairs, porch
> glider, etc).
>
> And finally (hopefully), real furniture (bedroom dressers, kitchen
cabinets,
> dining/coffee tables, etc).
>
> I am open to comments. Does this seem like a good approach?
> Advantages/Disadvantages? Other suggestions?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> codepath
>
>
Bob S. wrote:
> Michael,
>
> I just got his second post and if you had noticed the time on the posts,
> mine was posted before he sent his 2nd post listing his tools - so I had
> not read that.
OK then, I won't jump on you for jumping on me for jumping on you, and we'll
all just try to get along. How's that? :)
Anyway, I wasn't trying to ruffle your feathers. Just ribbing you good
naturedly.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Michael ,
Did you even read his post before you jumped on mine? He didn't say a thing
about owning or not owning a single tool. Now would you care to offer him
some advice or is your game just to tweak someone today....
Bob S.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bob S. wrote:
>
> > machining each type. So try to mix your projects so you use some kiln
> > dried, rough sawn hardwoods (oak, maple) that are relatively cheap from
> > the mill.
>
> And he's going to do that with no planer or jointer how? I don't think he
> mentioned owning any hand planes either.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>