DR

Dave Rowell

07/01/2004 8:11 PM

Redwood paint issues

[I posted this to alt.coatings.paint with no reply so I'm reposting here]

I'm picking up the pieces of a paint job where the painting contractor
attempted to strip some redwood siding with peelaway. Long story->short
story he's out of here and I need to figure out what to prime it with.
Normally I use two coats of an alkyd based primer over redwood (followed by
two coats of latex paint) and it seems to prevent the redwood from staining
through. Peelaway requires the use of a latex primer. Any suggests on what
to do?

Other complicating factors: The siding had the crap beat out of it and will
need extensive sanding and epoxy and some boards will be replaced out
right.

The contractor planned on using "Kelly Moore 255 Stain Resistant Acrylic
Primer", which I've never used. Is this any good and will it prevent
staining as advertised? Is there a better product for the job? I'm not
looking for a low cost solution, the house is pretty sweet and deserves the
best.

Also the guy used a lot of bondo to level and even to hide where one of his
guys ripped out some siding. It's failing all over the place. Is there a
good way to remove the stuff?

I'm also looking for a different stripping method for areas that have been
hit with the peelaway. Has anyone had experience with the "Silent Paint
Remover" thing. It sounds pretty cool, but what product doesn't?

Thanks for the info.

Dave R.


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bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to Dave Rowell on 07/01/2004 8:11 PM

08/01/2004 11:54 AM


"When in doubt", I use Zissner's BIN, or KILZ. KILZ is available both
in oil-based, and water-based.

In article <[email protected]>,
Dave Rowell <[email protected]> wrote:
>[I posted this to alt.coatings.paint with no reply so I'm reposting here]
>
>I'm picking up the pieces of a paint job where the painting contractor
>attempted to strip some redwood siding with peelaway. Long story->short
>story he's out of here and I need to figure out what to prime it with.
>Normally I use two coats of an alkyd based primer over redwood (followed by
>two coats of latex paint) and it seems to prevent the redwood from staining
>through. Peelaway requires the use of a latex primer. Any suggests on what
>to do?
>
>Other complicating factors: The siding had the crap beat out of it and will
>need extensive sanding and epoxy and some boards will be replaced out
>right.
>
>The contractor planned on using "Kelly Moore 255 Stain Resistant Acrylic
>Primer", which I've never used. Is this any good and will it prevent
>staining as advertised? Is there a better product for the job? I'm not
>looking for a low cost solution, the house is pretty sweet and deserves the
>best.
>
>Also the guy used a lot of bondo to level and even to hide where one of his
>guys ripped out some siding. It's failing all over the place. Is there a
>good way to remove the stuff?

Dynamite? <grin>

*I* would replace the boards. even if it is 'again'. Explaining to the
owner why the cost is 'what it is'.

DR

Dave Rowell

in reply to Dave Rowell on 07/01/2004 8:11 PM

08/01/2004 6:31 PM

> "When in doubt", I use Zissner's BIN, or KILZ. KILZ is available both
> in oil-based, and water-based.

I've had Zissner's stain through with redwood. I'll look into Kilz.

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Dave Rowell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>[I posted this to alt.coatings.paint with no reply so I'm reposting
>>here]
>>
>>I'm picking up the pieces of a paint job where the painting contractor
>>attempted to strip some redwood siding with peelaway. Long
>>story->short story he's out of here and I need to figure out what to
>>prime it with. Normally I use two coats of an alkyd based primer over
>>redwood (followed by two coats of latex paint) and it seems to prevent
>>the redwood from staining through. Peelaway requires the use of a
>>latex primer. Any suggests on what to do?
>>
>>Other complicating factors: The siding had the crap beat out of it and
>>will need extensive sanding and epoxy and some boards will be replaced
>>out right.
>>
>>The contractor planned on using "Kelly Moore 255 Stain Resistant
>>Acrylic Primer", which I've never used. Is this any good and will it
>>prevent staining as advertised? Is there a better product for the job?
>>I'm not looking for a low cost solution, the house is pretty sweet and
>>deserves the best.
>>
>>Also the guy used a lot of bondo to level and even to hide where one
>>of his guys ripped out some siding. It's failing all over the place.
>>Is there a good way to remove the stuff?
>
> Dynamite? <grin>
>
> *I* would replace the boards. even if it is 'again'. Explaining to
> the owner why the cost is 'what it is'.

Turns out I own this one as my ongoing fix it up as I live in it
project. I never should have farmed out the painting, but I wanted to
concentrate on the interior.

I need to redo a lot of siding anyway with some up coming changes so
ripping it out is not that far fetched. I mill my own stuff and have a
good redwood supplier so it's not as big a deal as it could be. Finding
a solvent for the stuff would be useful in the short term though.

Fortunately it's not the old part of the house which has really nice,
thick vertical grain first growth redwood on it.

Dave R.


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