On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:14:24 -0400, Rumpty wrote
(in message <[email protected]>):
> The original WW1 blade was designed by Forrest and Wally Kunkel a.k.a. Mr.
> Sawdust about 20 years ago. It's a superb blade for the RAS. Jim Forrest
> at Forrest didn't understand the RAS and never saw much future in the RAS.
> So after the death of Mr. Sawdust, the folks at Forrest must have figured
> there wasn't a need for a blade for a RAS and changed the profile to the ATB
> to make it more friendly to the table saw. So what is marketed today is a
> WW1 ATB which ain't no good for the RAS.
>
> In order to obtain the WW1 with the TCP profile, you must call Forrest
> directly and tell them what you want. There is one salesman, Charles at
> Forrest who understands this blade and won't try to convince you to purchase
> the ATB style blade. Forrest's direct number is 800-733-7111, ask for
> Charles and he is usually in after 10 AM eastern time.
>
> --
>
> Rumpty
>
Thanks for all the solid advice. I will order the WW1 with the TCP profile.
Scott
> Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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> "igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:07:40 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The ONLY blade to use on a RAS is the Forrest WW1 blade with TCP (triple
>>> chip profile). This blade MUST be purchased directly from Forrest to get
>>> this profile. Do not order from anywhere else as you will get an ATB
>>> profile. The Forrest WW1 TCP blade is a true universal blade for the
> RAS.
>>
>> I thought that any version of the WWI is described by Forrest as good for
>> an RAS. Also, at the Forrest site, http://forrest.woodmall.com/, I don't
>> even see the TCP described. Do they keep it behind the counter - and you
>> need a secret password?
>
>
I don't have a RAS, but based on the results on my table saw, panel saw, and
sliding compound miter saw I don't see how you could possibly find anything
better than Forrest. I know some people balk at the extra $10-20 over a CMT
or Freud, but I look at it like this: How much will you be spending on the
wood you intend to cut with it? If only 10% of your cuts come out better,
will it save you money or cost you?
"Jeffrey S. McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I recently bought a used 10" RAS and was wondering what opinions are on
blade
> choices? I suspect I will be using it mostly for crosscuts on solid stock
> with some occational plywood cuts. Any suggestions?
> Scott.
>
Gerry, Jeff, Igor, here is a copy of an old post on the Radial Saw forum
regarding this blade.
" Charles at Forrest, explained that the TCP (Triple Chip Grind) design of
the WWI was done because of Wally Kunkels,(Mr. Sawdust) imput. Wally felt
the blade was symmetrical and therefore was omni directional and pulled
less. (I agree)
Forrest went with the ATB grind to be a bit more plywood friendly. The 30
degrees of the profile helps sever the ply cleaner."
So if you going to be doing a lot of cross cut ply work you might be happy
to stay with the ATB. If you want to do some intricate multi directional
hardwood work you want the WW1 TCP, it's a true universal blade for the RAS.
It has a 5 deg positive kook on the teeth which helps it perform in the rip
position.
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Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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Scott,
I don't know the price difference if any, call Forrest and ask for Charles.
I use a 7790 and even though it a powerful saw, go with the 10" blade. You
can slice through 3" stock with a 10" on the 7790 and it will give you a bit
wider cross cut when you move the fence back behind the narrow back board.
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Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"vmtw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Gerry, Jeff, Igor, here is a copy of an old post on the Radial Saw forum
> > regarding this blade.
> >
> > " Charles at Forrest, explained that the TCP (Triple Chip Grind) design
of
> > the WWI was done because of Wally Kunkels,(Mr. Sawdust) imput. Wally
felt
> > the blade was symmetrical and therefore was omni directional and pulled
> > less. (I agree)
> >
> > Forrest went with the ATB grind to be a bit more plywood friendly. The
30
> > degrees of the profile helps sever the ply cleaner."
> >
> > So if you going to be doing a lot of cross cut ply work you might be
happy
> > to stay with the ATB. If you want to do some intricate multi directional
> > hardwood work you want the WW1 TCP, it's a true universal blade for the
RAS.
> > It has a 5 deg positive kook on the teeth which helps it perform in the
rip
> > position.
>
> is the price the same for the WWI TCP as the ATB?
> Also is it better to buy a 10" or a 12". I have a Dewalt 7790 that
> can take a 12" blade.
> Scott
The ONLY blade to use on a RAS is the Forrest WW1 blade with TCP (triple
chip profile). This blade MUST be purchased directly from Forrest to get
this profile. Do not order from anywhere else as you will get an ATB
profile. The Forrest WW1 TCP blade is a true universal blade for the RAS.
More discussion on this blade can be found at the Radial Arm Saw Forum:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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Rumpty
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"Jeffrey S. McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I recently bought a used 10" RAS and was wondering what opinions are on
blade
> choices? I suspect I will be using it mostly for crosscuts on solid stock
> with some occational plywood cuts. Any suggestions?
> Scott.
>
"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I don't have a RAS, but based on the results on my table saw, panel saw,
and
> sliding compound miter saw I don't see how you could possibly find
anything
> better than Forrest. I know some people balk at the extra $10-20 over a
CMT
> or Freud, but I look at it like this: How much will you be spending on
the
> wood you intend to cut with it? If only 10% of your cuts come out better,
> will it save you money or cost you?
Not to mention that it seems like the Forrest blades stay sharp for way way
longer than the others that I have had.
Having tried several including the WW1, I'll fully agree with Rumpty on this
one.
Gerry
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:07:40 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The ONLY blade to use on a RAS is the Forrest WW1 blade with TCP (triple
>chip profile). This blade MUST be purchased directly from Forrest to get
>this profile. Do not order from anywhere else as you will get an ATB
>profile. The Forrest WW1 TCP blade is a true universal blade for the RAS.
>
>More discussion on this blade can be found at the Radial Arm Saw Forum:
>
>http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:07:40 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The ONLY blade to use on a RAS is the Forrest WW1 blade with TCP (triple
>chip profile). This blade MUST be purchased directly from Forrest to get
>this profile. Do not order from anywhere else as you will get an ATB
>profile. The Forrest WW1 TCP blade is a true universal blade for the RAS.
I thought that any version of the WWI is described by Forrest as good for
an RAS. Also, at the Forrest site, http://forrest.woodmall.com/, I don't
even see the TCP described. Do they keep it behind the counter - and you
need a secret password?
"Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Gerry, Jeff, Igor, here is a copy of an old post on the Radial Saw forum
> regarding this blade.
>
> " Charles at Forrest, explained that the TCP (Triple Chip Grind) design of
> the WWI was done because of Wally Kunkels,(Mr. Sawdust) imput. Wally felt
> the blade was symmetrical and therefore was omni directional and pulled
> less. (I agree)
>
> Forrest went with the ATB grind to be a bit more plywood friendly. The 30
> degrees of the profile helps sever the ply cleaner."
>
> So if you going to be doing a lot of cross cut ply work you might be happy
> to stay with the ATB. If you want to do some intricate multi directional
> hardwood work you want the WW1 TCP, it's a true universal blade for the RAS.
> It has a 5 deg positive kook on the teeth which helps it perform in the rip
> position.
is the price the same for the WWI TCP as the ATB?
Also is it better to buy a 10" or a 12". I have a Dewalt 7790 that
can take a 12" blade.
Scott
The original WW1 blade was designed by Forrest and Wally Kunkel a.k.a. Mr.
Sawdust about 20 years ago. It's a superb blade for the RAS. Jim Forrest
at Forrest didn't understand the RAS and never saw much future in the RAS.
So after the death of Mr. Sawdust, the folks at Forrest must have figured
there wasn't a need for a blade for a RAS and changed the profile to the ATB
to make it more friendly to the table saw. So what is marketed today is a
WW1 ATB which ain't no good for the RAS.
In order to obtain the WW1 with the TCP profile, you must call Forrest
directly and tell them what you want. There is one salesman, Charles at
Forrest who understands this blade and won't try to convince you to purchase
the ATB style blade. Forrest's direct number is 800-733-7111, ask for
Charles and he is usually in after 10 AM eastern time.
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Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:07:40 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The ONLY blade to use on a RAS is the Forrest WW1 blade with TCP (triple
> >chip profile). This blade MUST be purchased directly from Forrest to get
> >this profile. Do not order from anywhere else as you will get an ATB
> >profile. The Forrest WW1 TCP blade is a true universal blade for the
RAS.
>
> I thought that any version of the WWI is described by Forrest as good for
> an RAS. Also, at the Forrest site, http://forrest.woodmall.com/, I don't
> even see the TCP described. Do they keep it behind the counter - and you
> need a secret password?
Okay Rumpty; now you've got my attention...I've been using the Forrest WW1
ATB. Still unpacking so's I can't check Wally's book, but what's a TCP (or did
you mean TCG?) and why's it better? I thought the angle was more important to
the RAS, and the blade style for the material. As it happens, I'm just setting
up a new workshop after moving, and was assembling and aligning the RAS when I
saw your comments.
GerryG
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:14:24 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The original WW1 blade was designed by Forrest and Wally Kunkel a.k.a. Mr.
>Sawdust about 20 years ago. It's a superb blade for the RAS. Jim Forrest
>at Forrest didn't understand the RAS and never saw much future in the RAS.
>So after the death of Mr. Sawdust, the folks at Forrest must have figured
>there wasn't a need for a blade for a RAS and changed the profile to the ATB
>to make it more friendly to the table saw. So what is marketed today is a
>WW1 ATB which ain't no good for the RAS.
>
>In order to obtain the WW1 with the TCP profile, you must call Forrest
>directly and tell them what you want. There is one salesman, Charles at
>Forrest who understands this blade and won't try to convince you to purchase
>the ATB style blade. Forrest's direct number is 800-733-7111, ask for
>Charles and he is usually in after 10 AM eastern time.
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 23:14:24 -0400, "Rumpty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The original WW1 blade was designed by Forrest and Wally Kunkel a.k.a. Mr.
>Sawdust about 20 years ago. It's a superb blade for the RAS. Jim Forrest
>at Forrest didn't understand the RAS and never saw much future in the RAS.
>So after the death of Mr. Sawdust, the folks at Forrest must have figured
>there wasn't a need for a blade for a RAS and changed the profile to the ATB
>to make it more friendly to the table saw. So what is marketed today is a
>WW1 ATB which ain't no good for the RAS.
>
>In order to obtain the WW1 with the TCP profile, you must call Forrest
>directly and tell them what you want. There is one salesman, Charles at
>Forrest who understands this blade and won't try to convince you to purchase
>the ATB style blade. Forrest's direct number is 800-733-7111, ask for
>Charles and he is usually in after 10 AM eastern time.
Thanks for all the info. Question: How does this blade perfom on a TS, if
you know? I had bought the "standard" WW1 so I could switch it back and
forth, though I have not used my old RAS since the TS arrived.
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:04:13 -0400, "George" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I don't have a RAS, but based on the results on my table saw, panel saw, and
>sliding compound miter saw I don't see how you could possibly find anything
>better than Forrest. I know some people balk at the extra $10-20 over a CMT
>or Freud, but I look at it like this: How much will you be spending on the
>wood you intend to cut with it? If only 10% of your cuts come out better,
>will it save you money or cost you?
For the money that a Forrest costs, ALL of my cuts better come out
better. The question is, will all of them come out 10% better?
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