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[email protected] (cornytheclown)

19/02/2004 6:45 AM

router and router table question

Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
down some phenolic sheet into strips ???

I am going to fabricate a metal table top and mount the router in the
center and just use a piece of heavy sheet metal angle as a fence. I
will mount the fence with bolts as this is a one time use....

I once had a router table years and years ago and didnt use it much
but for playing around. And I dont remember having the fence away from
the bit several inches as I need to have it now.

Anyhow, what I am planning is to mount the router in the center and
will bolt the fence down to the rear of the router and feed in from
the right to left. I hate to ask such a stupid question but the
phenolic I have is limited and I dont want to have to waste any more
than neccesary getting familiar with my setup.

any replies or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


This topic has 6 replies

pR

[email protected] (Routerman P. Warner)

in reply to [email protected] (cornytheclown) on 19/02/2004 6:45 AM

19/02/2004 11:51 AM

Formica (~1/16 thick) will tolerate a wide kerf cut on the router
table with a solid carbide cutter. Anything thicker or with HSS will
not work for very long.
WOuld band saw if tablesaw unavailable. Routers can cut phenolic/lam
(>1/16)but the power required is high and it has to one of the hardest
things on a turning carbide bit.
http://www.patwarner.com (Routers)
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> Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
> inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
> down some phenolic sheet into strips ???
>
> I am going to fabricate a metal table top and mount the router in the
> center and just use a piece of heavy sheet metal angle as a fence. I
> will mount the fence with bolts as this is a one time use....
>
> I once had a router table years and years ago and didnt use it much
> but for playing around. And I dont remember having the fence away from
> the bit several inches as I need to have it now.
>
> Anyhow, what I am planning is to mount the router in the center and
> will bolt the fence down to the rear of the router and feed in from
> the right to left. I hate to ask such a stupid question but the
> phenolic I have is limited and I dont want to have to waste any more
> than neccesary getting familiar with my setup.
>
> any replies or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Kk

"KYHighlander"

in reply to [email protected] (cornytheclown) on 19/02/2004 6:45 AM

19/02/2004 10:02 AM

seems to me that you would be wasting a lot of phenolic as compared to a
table saw cutting it into strips.

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"cornytheclown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
> inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
> down some phenolic sheet into strips ???
>
> I am going to fabricate a metal table top and mount the router in the
> center and just use a piece of heavy sheet metal angle as a fence. I
> will mount the fence with bolts as this is a one time use....
>
> I once had a router table years and years ago and didnt use it much
> but for playing around. And I dont remember having the fence away from
> the bit several inches as I need to have it now.
>
> Anyhow, what I am planning is to mount the router in the center and
> will bolt the fence down to the rear of the router and feed in from
> the right to left. I hate to ask such a stupid question but the
> phenolic I have is limited and I dont want to have to waste any more
> than neccesary getting familiar with my setup.
>
> any replies or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to [email protected] (cornytheclown) on 19/02/2004 6:45 AM

19/02/2004 3:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (cornytheclown) wrote:
>Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
>inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
>down some phenolic sheet into strips ???

Possible, yes. Safe, no. Practical, no.

It's not too safe to pass stock between the bit and the fence, as this leaves
the entire bit exposed. One slip, and you could wind up routing a 3/16" groove
through your hand.

And why use a router with a 3/16" cutter as a saw? Seems to me this might be
a case of "if the only tool you have is a hammer, the whole world looks like
a nail". Do you not have access to a table saw or a band saw? It makes *much*
more sense to use a saw. Then use the router to trim the edges smooth.

[snip]
>phenolic I have is limited and I dont want to have to waste any more
>than neccesary getting familiar with my setup.

All the more reason for using a saw, which removes less material -- and cuts
in a single pass, too.

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Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] (cornytheclown) on 19/02/2004 6:45 AM

19/02/2004 10:13 AM

cornytheclown wrote:

> Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
> inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
> down some phenolic sheet into strips ???
>
> I am going to fabricate a metal table top and mount the router in the
> center and just use a piece of heavy sheet metal angle as a fence. I
> will mount the fence with bolts as this is a one time use....
>
> I once had a router table years and years ago and didnt use it much
> but for playing around. And I dont remember having the fence away from
> the bit several inches as I need to have it now.
>
> Anyhow, what I am planning is to mount the router in the center and
> will bolt the fence down to the rear of the router and feed in from
> the right to left. I hate to ask such a stupid question but the
> phenolic I have is limited and I dont want to have to waste any more
> than neccesary getting familiar with my setup.
>
> any replies or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

A router isn't a good tool for this job. Consider finding a
neighbor with a bandsaw. The bandsaw will do the job well and
safely, and will waste much less of your phenolic.

--
Morris Dovey
West Des Moines, Iowa USA
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Read my lips: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

KS

"Kevin Singleton"

in reply to [email protected] (cornytheclown) on 19/02/2004 6:45 AM

19/02/2004 9:57 AM

You can do this. I don't know how well the high-speed router will cut the
phenolic. You might want a larger bit, too. I wouldn't want that small a
bit taking a full-depth cut in one pass.

Go slowly, be careful, and don't forget the safety glasses.

Kevin
"cornytheclown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
> inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
> down some phenolic sheet into strips ???
>
> I am going to fabricate a metal table top and mount the router in the
> center and just use a piece of heavy sheet metal angle as a fence. I
> will mount the fence with bolts as this is a one time use....
>
> I once had a router table years and years ago and didnt use it much
> but for playing around. And I dont remember having the fence away from
> the bit several inches as I need to have it now.
>
> Anyhow, what I am planning is to mount the router in the center and
> will bolt the fence down to the rear of the router and feed in from
> the right to left. I hate to ask such a stupid question but the
> phenolic I have is limited and I dont want to have to waste any more
> than neccesary getting familiar with my setup.
>
> any replies or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (cornytheclown) on 19/02/2004 6:45 AM

19/02/2004 3:07 PM


"cornytheclown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is it possible to use a router table with the fence set back several
> inches from the bit and using the bit, a 3/16 straight cutter to rip
> down some phenolic sheet into strips ???
>
> any replies or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Do you have a table saw or band saw? Given the stink factor, that is how I
would cut it.

Router would probably work OK, but a 3/16" kerf is large and can be avoided.
Ed


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