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"Toller"

15/01/2004 6:21 PM

Does it much matter where I put my air filter?

Getting tired of having everything covered with dust, and seeing the Jet air
filter at Amazon for $165, I bought one. Now where to put it...

My "shop" is about 10'x25'. All the dust making tools are at one end.
However, the other end has some ductwork and beams so if I put it there I
wouldn't loose much in the way of headroom as it it lost already.
So; I presume it would be most effective to put it nearer the tools, but
most space efficient on the other side.

Does it make enough difference that I should sacrifice the head room?

My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in place.
(At long last he is becoming useful.)


This topic has 14 replies

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Phisherman

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

17/01/2004 2:37 AM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:21:17 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Getting tired of having everything covered with dust, and seeing the Jet air
>filter at Amazon for $165, I bought one. Now where to put it...
>
>My "shop" is about 10'x25'. All the dust making tools are at one end.
>However, the other end has some ductwork and beams so if I put it there I
>wouldn't loose much in the way of headroom as it it lost already.
>So; I presume it would be most effective to put it nearer the tools, but
>most space efficient on the other side.
>
>Does it make enough difference that I should sacrifice the head room?
>
>My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in place.
>(At long last he is becoming useful.)
>

I'd try to put it as close to the center of the shop. My air filter
doubles as a sanding table, and it's on wheels.

dD

[email protected] (DarylRos)

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 2:39 PM

>My "shop" is about 10'x25'

That makes it about 2,000 cubic feet to filter. Not a lot. My garage is 20 x
20, and I use a smaller filter. It's near the tablesaw, but it filters a lot of
air quickly. My guess is you put it anywhere, as long as the exhaust can return
the air reasonably well, and you will get a lot of air changes from it.

sS

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 1:16 PM

>Does it much matter where I put my air filter?

I think it would work best if you put in in MY shop . . .

;>)

I use a Rigid 6hp vacuum, with hoses running to all the dust makers.
I also use the Rigid portable air filter: I place it near the
dustmaker that is in use. If I'm using sanding attachments on the
drill press, I put it there. If I'm hand-sanding a cedar-top guitar
(nasty stuff) I put it next to the guitar. I developed asthma from
NOT practicing safe sanding, and I am now pretty keen about keeping
the shop clean; just a whiff of cedar or mahogany dust will set me off
(I now take an antihistamine, and wear a mask, if I plan to work with
these woods)

The filter you just bought would hang nicely in my shop, and I may get
one just like it (can't be too clean, right?). I saw a good article
about filter placement, but don't recall where. Basically, consider
air-flow patterns in your shop, and visualize what the patterns will
be with different filter orientations. For me, I would point the
intake towards the main dustmaking corner of the shop. However, my
workbench where I hand-sand guitars, etc. is at the other end, so my
portable filter would be the main catcher there. And since any new
ceiling filter would be blowing air onto my workbench, I would either
turn it around, or leave it off while sanding at the bench.

Cheers,

Scott


[email protected] (DarylRos) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >My "shop" is about 10'x25'
>
> That makes it about 2,000 cubic feet to filter. Not a lot. My garage is 20 x
> 20, and I use a smaller filter. It's near the tablesaw, but it filters a lot of
> air quickly. My guess is you put it anywhere, as long as the exhaust can return
> the air reasonably well, and you will get a lot of air changes from it.

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 4:43 AM

> > > Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
> > > 1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
> > > 2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
> > > (anything that would need the headroom)


Just to throw a contrarian viewpoint in here, I put mine up near the
workbench on the rationale that the workbench was the most likely place
I would be sanding with an ROS and also running the router, thus the
idea was to put the air cleaner as close to the big dust generators as
possible. Thus far, I have not had any interference problems.

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

15/01/2004 10:48 PM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:21:17 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:


>My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in place.

Ratchet straps.

Barry

Gg

"Gary"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 1:14 PM

Consider turning it and hanging it on the wall. That's what I've done with
my homebuilt filter system.

gary a

"eric" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Getting tired of having everything covered with dust, and seeing the Jet
> air
> > filter at Amazon for $165, I bought one. Now where to put it...
> >
> > My "shop" is about 10'x25'. All the dust making tools are at one end.
> > However, the other end has some ductwork and beams so if I put it there
I
> > wouldn't loose much in the way of headroom as it it lost already.
> > So; I presume it would be most effective to put it nearer the tools, but
> > most space efficient on the other side.
> >
> > Does it make enough difference that I should sacrifice the head room?
> >
> > My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in
place.
> > (At long last he is becoming useful.)
> >
> >
>
> Just a thought
>
> Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
> 1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
> 2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
> (anything that would need the headroom)
>
> its been a year since I installed it and it appears to be a good decision.
>
>
>

ee

"eric"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

15/01/2004 6:17 PM



"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Getting tired of having everything covered with dust, and seeing the Jet
air
> filter at Amazon for $165, I bought one. Now where to put it...
>
> My "shop" is about 10'x25'. All the dust making tools are at one end.
> However, the other end has some ductwork and beams so if I put it there I
> wouldn't loose much in the way of headroom as it it lost already.
> So; I presume it would be most effective to put it nearer the tools, but
> most space efficient on the other side.
>
> Does it make enough difference that I should sacrifice the head room?
>
> My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in place.
> (At long last he is becoming useful.)
>
>

Just a thought

Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
(anything that would need the headroom)

its been a year since I installed it and it appears to be a good decision.


Tt

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 8:09 PM


"Jerry Gilreath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:J9XNb.69852$sv6.146469@attbi_s52...
> What would happen if it were to have the exhaust going outside? Setup like
> bathroom vents.
>
On a nice day it would be fine. Today (5 degrees) it would be like having
all my windows open; a real bad idea.

JG

"Jerry Gilreath"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 7:43 PM

What would happen if it were to have the exhaust going outside? Setup like
bathroom vents.

--
"Cartoons don't have any deep meaning.
They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh."
Homer Simpson
Jerry© The Phoneman®
"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:17:00 -0500, "eric" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> Getting tired of having everything covered with dust, and seeing the
Jet
> >air
> >> filter at Amazon for $165, I bought one. Now where to put it...
> >>
> >> My "shop" is about 10'x25'. All the dust making tools are at one end.
> >> However, the other end has some ductwork and beams so if I put it there
I
> >> wouldn't loose much in the way of headroom as it it lost already.
> >> So; I presume it would be most effective to put it nearer the tools,
but
> >> most space efficient on the other side.
> >>
> >> Does it make enough difference that I should sacrifice the head room?
> >>
> >> My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in
place.
> >> (At long last he is becoming useful.)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Just a thought
> >
> >Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
> >1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
> >2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
> >(anything that would need the headroom)
> >
> >its been a year since I installed it and it appears to be a good
decision.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> my outfeed table is my assembly table. I often unload assemblies over
> the saw top. sometimes they're tall.
> Bridger

BG

"Bob G"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

18/01/2004 6:09 PM


I have a Delta air filter plus a home make unit I made with a furnace cage
blower ....

The Delta I mounted near the ceiling on one end of my 24x24 shop and the
homemade unit sits on the floor under
a workbench on the side opposite of the shop...

All I can tell you that they both need the filters changed
alot......really can not say which is in the better place...just
looking at the external filters I can not say which is picking up more
dust...

Bob Griffiths




Tt

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 1:59 PM


"Gary" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Consider turning it and hanging it on the wall. That's what I've done with
> my homebuilt filter system.
>
With a 10'x25' shop, I used up all the wall space a long time ago.

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

15/01/2004 4:43 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
> 1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
> 2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
> (anything that would need the headroom)
>
Mine's homemade but I came to the same conclusion. It's been over the
saw for years. Worked out fine.

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

Tt

"Toller"

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 4:20 AM


"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
> > Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
> > 1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
> > 2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
> > (anything that would need the headroom)
> >
> Mine's homemade but I came to the same conclusion. It's been over the
> saw for years. Worked out fine.
>
There are water pipes over my table saw, so I will have to drop it down a
bit to clear them; but it is probably the best solution. Thanks.

Bn

Bridger

in reply to "Toller" on 15/01/2004 6:21 PM

16/01/2004 8:37 AM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:17:00 -0500, "eric" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
>"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Getting tired of having everything covered with dust, and seeing the Jet
>air
>> filter at Amazon for $165, I bought one. Now where to put it...
>>
>> My "shop" is about 10'x25'. All the dust making tools are at one end.
>> However, the other end has some ductwork and beams so if I put it there I
>> wouldn't loose much in the way of headroom as it it lost already.
>> So; I presume it would be most effective to put it nearer the tools, but
>> most space efficient on the other side.
>>
>> Does it make enough difference that I should sacrifice the head room?
>>
>> My son is not looking forward to holding it up while I screw it in place.
>> (At long last he is becoming useful.)
>>
>>
>
>Just a thought
>
>Faced with a similar dilemma I put mine right over top of the table saw
>1> Figured I would not mind the loss of head room over the saw
>2> Figured I would not be cutting anything 4-5ft tall on the table saw
>(anything that would need the headroom)
>
>its been a year since I installed it and it appears to be a good decision.
>
>



my outfeed table is my assembly table. I often unload assemblies over
the saw top. sometimes they're tall.
Bridger


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