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"AAvK"

04/10/2004 11:54 PM

slower drill press


Anyone know how to slow down a drill press without adding a jack shaft?

Alex


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GG

Greg G.

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 4:16 AM

AAvK said:

>
>Anyone know how to slow down a drill press without adding a jack shaft?

What kind of drill press? Does it already have a pulley arrangement
to change speeds? A smaller motor pulley, and/or a bigger quill
pulley. And there is also replacing the motor with a slower model.
You generally only have two choices, 1725 and 3450 RPM.

What WON'T work - a light dimmer.

FWIW,

Greg G.

Gg

"George"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 8:02 AM

Speed comes from the number of windings and the clock at the electric
company, regardless of the nameplate.

Dumb question, but are the pulley cones installed properly? Other than
that, check to see if you can get a cone with larger diameters for the
front.

"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> It is a cheapy Chinese mini DP, $40 at the Homier traveling tool show.
Something like
> 4 1/2" center-to-column and with a 4 speed set of pulleys on top. Very
standard and low-
> end, can't lock the quill in place. The motor is 1700 rpm (not 1725).
Works well but the
> lowest speed has this tacky chafing sound first time I ran it, so, must be
some runout.
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 12:54 PM

Nifty, but not germane. Inductive slip, belt slip, loading - as stated, a
guess for the nameplate, not the RPM, since none are constant.


"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:02:27 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:
>
> >Speed comes from the number of windings and the clock at the electric
> >company, regardless of the nameplate.
>
> Broadly so, but the difference between 1700 and 1725 is down to motor
> design. A motor that runs at significantly less than this theoretical
> limit is likely to be less efficient, run hotter, fail sooner, and be
> cheaper to buy.
>
> (The term your search should be looking for is "slip")
>
>
> --
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b

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 11:34 AM

On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 23:54:03 -0700, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Anyone know how to slow down a drill press without adding a jack shaft?
>
>Alex
>


take away it's car keys?

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 11:39 AM


"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> It is a cheapy Chinese mini DP, $40 at the Homier traveling tool show.
> Something like
> 4 1/2" center-to-column and with a 4 speed set of pulleys on top. Very
> standard and low-
> end, can't lock the quill in place. The motor is 1700 rpm (not 1725).
> Works well but the
> lowest speed has this tacky chafing sound first time I ran it, so, must be
> some runout.
>
> I imagine one could place a larger single gulley wheel on the front
> spindle, or something
> like that...? I know a variable speed DC motor and control board would be
> really expensive,
> after all the searching I've done.

Pretty soon you'll be up to the cost of a good drill press. Donate it to
some charity run thrift shop and get a decent 12" model. This one sounds
like just more heartache in the future.

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 6:08 PM


> Larger pulley on the front, smaller on the motor. If you want to have fun
> you could play with a couple of variable-pitch pulleys, but then you would
> have to set up some means of monitoring the RPM.
> Best bet if you're in the US would be to get thee to Lowes before all the
> closeout Deltas are gone.


yeah but ain't no Loew's near me. there is an HF about 40 miles south. Still
can't afford it.
Alex

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 6:50 AM




"AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:r9t8d.12370$mS1.5494@fed1read05...
>
> > What kind of drill press? Does it already have a pulley arrangement
> > to change speeds? A smaller motor pulley, and/or a bigger quill
> > pulley. And there is also replacing the motor with a slower model.
> > You generally only have two choices, 1725 and 3450 RPM.
> > What WON'T work - a light dimmer.
>
>
> Yeah the dining room light dimmer, let's rip it out and put it on the
motor! WEEEEEE!!!
> Sounds like it could be advice from Mad magazine.
>
> It is a cheapy Chinese mini DP, $40 at the Homier traveling tool show.
Something like
> 4 1/2" center-to-column and with a 4 speed set of pulleys on top. Very
standard and low-
> end, can't lock the quill in place. The motor is 1700 rpm (not 1725).
Works well but the
> lowest speed has this tacky chafing sound first time I ran it, so, must be
some runout.
>
> I imagine one could place a larger single gulley wheel on the front
spindle, or something
> like that...? I know a variable speed DC motor and control board would be
really expensive,
> after all the searching I've done.

Almost anything you try to do to this animal is going to cost almost as much
as you paid for the whole thing to begin with. IMHO, you'd be better off to
"cut your losses" and maybe look here:

http://www.grizzly.com/products/items-list.cfm?key=380000&sort=price

--
Nahmie
The law of intelligent tinkering: save all the parts.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 7:49 AM

AAvK wrote:

>
>> What kind of drill press? Does it already have a pulley arrangement
>> to change speeds? A smaller motor pulley, and/or a bigger quill
>> pulley. And there is also replacing the motor with a slower model.
>> You generally only have two choices, 1725 and 3450 RPM.
>> What WON'T work - a light dimmer.
>
>
> Yeah the dining room light dimmer, let's rip it out and put it on the
> motor! WEEEEEE!!! Sounds like it could be advice from Mad magazine.
>
> It is a cheapy Chinese mini DP, $40 at the Homier traveling tool show.
> Something like 4 1/2" center-to-column and with a 4 speed set of pulleys
> on top. Very standard and low- end, can't lock the quill in place. The
> motor is 1700 rpm (not 1725). Works well but the lowest speed has this
> tacky chafing sound first time I ran it, so, must be some runout.
>
> I imagine one could place a larger single gulley wheel on the front
> spindle, or something like that...? I know a variable speed DC motor and
> control board would be really expensive, after all the searching I've
> done.

Larger pulley on the front, smaller on the motor. If you want to have fun
you could play with a couple of variable-pitch pulleys, but then you would
have to set up some means of monitoring the RPM.

Best bet if you're in the US would be to get thee to Lowes before all the
closeout Deltas are gone.

> Alex

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 8:02 PM

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 06:50:28 -0400, "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> calmly ranted:

>Almost anything you try to do to this animal is going to cost almost as much
>as you paid for the whole thing to begin with. IMHO, you'd be better off to
>"cut your losses" and maybe look here:
>
>http://www.grizzly.com/products/items-list.cfm?key=380000&sort=price

Yeah, the G9746 and G9747 look pretty nice. ;)


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Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 6:05 PM


> Pretty soon you'll be up to the cost of a good drill press. Donate it to
> some charity run thrift shop and get a decent 12" model. This one sounds
> like just more heartache in the future.
>
>
"I know", but I am poorer than that, sorry to say, health conditions. The one I want
is a larger benchtop type, 12 speeds and 14" swing if that is 7" center to column.
As Norman suggested, the Grizz G7943 is the idea, and other generic Asian ones
are the same. The Grizz gets down to 140rpm, pretty cool!

Alex

Aa

"AAvK"

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 1:44 AM


> What kind of drill press? Does it already have a pulley arrangement
> to change speeds? A smaller motor pulley, and/or a bigger quill
> pulley. And there is also replacing the motor with a slower model.
> You generally only have two choices, 1725 and 3450 RPM.
> What WON'T work - a light dimmer.


Yeah the dining room light dimmer, let's rip it out and put it on the motor! WEEEEEE!!!
Sounds like it could be advice from Mad magazine.

It is a cheapy Chinese mini DP, $40 at the Homier traveling tool show. Something like
4 1/2" center-to-column and with a 4 speed set of pulleys on top. Very standard and low-
end, can't lock the quill in place. The motor is 1700 rpm (not 1725). Works well but the
lowest speed has this tacky chafing sound first time I ran it, so, must be some runout.

I imagine one could place a larger single gulley wheel on the front spindle, or something
like that...? I know a variable speed DC motor and control board would be really expensive,
after all the searching I've done.

Alex

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "AAvK" on 04/10/2004 11:54 PM

05/10/2004 2:37 PM

On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 08:02:27 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:

>Speed comes from the number of windings and the clock at the electric
>company, regardless of the nameplate.

Broadly so, but the difference between 1700 and 1725 is down to motor
design. A motor that runs at significantly less than this theoretical
limit is likely to be less efficient, run hotter, fail sooner, and be
cheaper to buy.

(The term your search should be looking for is "slip")


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Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods


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