How to best read this newsgroup?

In article <[email protected]>, Jay Pique
<[email protected]> wrote:

> The above link takes you to New York Strippers "Providing the absolute best in
> adult entertainment in New York." Seriously.

No, it doesn't. Seriously.

It takes me to "Tom's Gravity Pages"

Not a nipple in site.

djb

In article <[email protected]>, VRadin
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Use the entire URL, you need the
> index.html also. Otherwise, you get a text page of New York Stripper
> information.

No, I don't.

http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/

Takes me to the gravity page

http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/

takes me to "Tom's Prohost Page"

and

http://lightning.prohosting.com/

404's.

Now, would someone PLEASE post the correct URL for the NY strippers?

djb

In article <[email protected]>,
Australopithecus scobis <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Fly-by-Night CC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I use MT-Newswatcher on an older Mac.
>
> ditto. Works better, imho, than the related YA-Newswatcher. I prefer it
> to anything I've tried so far on 'doze or 'nix. YMMV

Pre-X, I used all the Newswatcher variants (VA, YA, and MT). I switched
to Thoth at least a couple of years ago, and I enjoy it greatly. Much
the same user experience as Newswatcher, but with OS X.

Kevin

In article <[email protected]>, JRMapes
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh and since i couldnt resist...
> "How to best read this newsgroup?"
>
> With a thick skin and BIG grain of salt is often very handy.

And be quick on the "mark read" button.

Before reading anything, I scroll through the message list and
Alt-click to select everything I don't care to read. Then I "Mark read"
those selected articles, so that they'll be skipped as I read the
messages.

My personal path to wRECk tranquility involves almost never joining a
thread in progress. If it's got a Re: in front of it, I probably skip
it. If it's a new thread, I'll check the subject line, but also
probably skip it if it's not within my area of interest. That means
reading a couple of dozen messages a day, instead of hundreds.

I read probably 80% of JOAT's links, almost all of Tom Watson's
stories, and almost none of BAD's posts.

Kevin

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 06:41:19 -0700, Layne <> wrote:

I have use (paid) Agent since 95' and early this year upgrade to Agent 2.00.
In my opinion it's still the BEST newsreader available.

>I use FreeAgent and it works for me. If you buy Agent you can block
>the spammers... :-(
>
>Layne
>
>On 10 Jun 2004 14:46:35 GMT, [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:
>
>>I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
>>all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
>>newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
>>what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
>>that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
>>available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:20:48 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

To be honest I really do not know. In the nineties, I save, sort, kill files,
blah, blah, and blah. Agent is the only newsreader that can do it what other
cannot. The learning curve was not difficult and I have got use to it. I have
archives many newsgroups and there are more than 230,000 articles or about two
years of rec.woodworking. When it gets too large it slow down and will than save
it in a smaller winzip file and start a complete new file.

Agent can do many things that I may not know or use. I am still using Agent
Version 1.93/32.576. I also use version 2.0/32.652 for other newsgroups.

I have no interest in Agent, but just to tell you for nine years I have use
Agent. My initially invest was twenty-nine bucks and early this year I invest
another twenty some dollars. I guess, a really cheap investment for about 10
years of pleasure. :-)

>
>
>"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> I have use (paid) Agent since 95' and early this year upgrade to Agent
>2.00.
>> In my opinion it's still the BEST newsreader available.
>>
>
>Not a knock against paid programs, but what does it do that the free version
>of OE does not do?
>I click on a group and it shows me the messages. I click on the individual
>message or thread that I want to read. I read it. At that point, the
>software has served its purpose.
>
>I mark all ignored posts as read and they do not show again. Or I hit
>cntrl/shift/a and all messages are marked "read" and don't show the next
>time I come back unless I change the view. I click on reply to reply. I
>just ignore the tedious flaming threads, porn, etc.
>
>I just can not image that I'm missing anything, but never having used
>another reader, I honestly don't know if I am and don't want to spent $$ to
>find out. I have no particular feelings for or against MS so that is not a
>factor.
>Ed
>[email protected]
>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>

> >On 10 Jun 2004 14:46:35 GMT, [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:
> >
> >>. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
> >>all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes
up is
> >>newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at
and
> >>what is new.

You can with Outlook Express. Free. You can change views as you desire to
show only unread, or all messages or a couple of other options.
Ed

Bjórrúnar skaltu JFCBAS rista --

> Is there some newsgroup reader or other
> available freeware or shareware that lets you manage
> newsgroups efficiently?

XNews

http://download.com.com/3000-2164-10144167.html?tag=lst-0-1

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy. My
> current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html
>
> Since your new ISP doesn't support news you may need to subscribe to a
> newsserver service. You can sign up for a free account on Free Berlin
> service at: http://news.individual.net/ It's a text only- NO BINARIES,
> so you'll have to scrounge elsewhere for your dose of woodpr0n from ABPW
>
That's the combination I use too. The server is almost never
down and it seems to get most articles. Most ISPs don't have a
very complete news feed even if they do offer one.

And Gravity isn't perfect, but it's about the best I've tried.
The newsreader in Netcape 4.?? would be my second choice.

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 17:39:43 -0400, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>>[email protected] says...
>>> There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy. My
>>> current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
>>> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html
>
>The above link takes you to New York Strippers "Providing the absolute best in
>adult entertainment in New York." Seriously.

no it doesn't. your browser has been hijacked. try a good spyware
cleanup tool like adaware:
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

or spybot search and destroy:
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?lang=pl

"Leon" wrote in message

> IIRC by default IE6.0 has new unread posts in BOLD. After being read the
> font goes to NON BOLD.
>
> With IE 6.0 you can also hide all read message fromshowing up when you
load
> the program.

"CTRL H" will hide or unhide read messages.


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 5/15/04

And don't forget about the fireproof undies........ ;-)

JRMapes wrote:
> [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup ...
>
>
> MT Newswatcher for Mac is really good
> and
> Xnews for the PC is really good as well.
>
> Oh and since i couldnt resist...
> "How to best read this newsgroup?"
>
> With a thick skin and BIG grain of salt is often very handy.
>
> ;-)
>
> Jerry
>

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:20:48 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> I have use (paid) Agent since 95' and early this year upgrade to Agent
>2.00.
>> In my opinion it's still the BEST newsreader available.
>>
>
>Not a knock against paid programs, but what does it do that the free version
>of OE does not do?

Well along with several dozen other things you can post a long link without it
breaking.

Like this one:
http://groups.google.ca/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&threadm=k6lhc09ie6hu385pc4jer419t14pn0lb1b%404ax.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dnewsreader%2Bgroup:rec.woodworking%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Drec.woodworking%26safe%3Doff%26scoring%3Dd%26selm%3Dk6lhc09ie6hu385pc4jer419t14pn0lb1b%25404ax.com%26rnum%3D2

I use FreeAgent and it works for me. If you buy Agent you can block
the spammers... :-(

Layne

On 10 Jun 2004 14:46:35 GMT, [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:

>I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
>all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
>newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
>what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
>that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
>available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
> all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
> newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
> what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
> that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
> available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy. My
current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html

Since your new ISP doesn't support news you may need to subscribe to a
newsserver service. You can sign up for a free account on Free Berlin
service at: http://news.individual.net/ It's a text only- NO BINARIES,
so you'll have to scrounge elsewhere for your dose of woodpr0n from ABPW
<g>.

/vic
Std-Disclaimer: not affiliated with gravity or free berlin- merely a
satisfied user of both.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...

> >In article <[email protected]>,
> >[email protected] says...
> >> There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy. My
> >> current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
> >> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html
>
> The above link takes you to New York Strippers "Providing the absolute best in
> adult entertainment in New York." Seriously.

Since I posted that one- Seriously. NO, it does not. The link **as
quoted** goes to Tom's Gravity Page. Use the entire URL, you need the
index.html also. Otherwise, you get a text page of New York Stripper
information.

But either way- not a nipple in sight. Dammit.

/vic

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
> > all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
> > newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
> > what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
> > that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
> > available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?
>
> There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy. My
> current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html
>
> Since your new ISP doesn't support news you may need to subscribe to a
> newsserver service. You can sign up for a free account on Free Berlin
> service at: http://news.individual.net/ It's a text only- NO BINARIES,
> so you'll have to scrounge elsewhere for your dose of woodpr0n from ABPW
> <g>.
>
> /vic
> Std-Disclaimer: not affiliated with gravity or free berlin- merely a
> satisfied user of both.
>
I agree I have just set up gravity and it is by far better than the free
agent reader I was using. Try it you'll like it!!

[email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup ...

MT Newswatcher for Mac is really good
and
Xnews for the PC is really good as well.

Oh and since i couldnt resist...
"How to best read this newsgroup?"

With a thick skin and BIG grain of salt is often very handy.

;-)

Jerry

By going to the view drop down menu in OE, clicking on current views then
"hide read or blocked messages" and marking the whole news group as read
after reading what I wanted to, when I check the group again all I see are
new messages from people I want to see messages from..


--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods
[email protected]
www.heirloom-woods.net
"JFCBAS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can
mark
> all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes
up is
> newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at
and
> what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they
tell me
> that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or
other
> available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups
efficiently?

VRadin wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>> >In article <[email protected]>,
>> >[email protected] says...
>> >> There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy.
>> >> My current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
>> >> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html
>>
>> The above link takes you to New York Strippers "Providing the absolute
>> best in
>> adult entertainment in New York." Seriously.
>
> Since I posted that one- Seriously. NO, it does not. The link **as
> quoted** goes to Tom's Gravity Page. Use the entire URL, you need the
> index.html also. Otherwise, you get a text page of New York Stripper
> information.
>
> But either way- not a nipple in sight. Dammit.

Clicking the link 6 times, one came up New York Strippers, the others came
up Gravity. With or without the index.html.
>
> /vic

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

snip>
so you'll have to scrounge elsewhere for your dose of woodpr0n from
ABPW
> <g>.
>
> /vic
> Std-Disclaimer: not affiliated with gravity or free berlin- merely a
> satisfied user of both.

Let's see, here...

http://www.delorie.com/wood/

That's the one I used before I discovered Agent. I know, I don't use
it often, but my old-tyme Tera News account (it was free then, it's
about a half-sawbuck now) was what I used then. The updates aren't
real-time or anything, but they're there.

-Phil Crow

In article <[email protected]>,
Fly-by-Night CC <[email protected]> wrote:

> I use MT-Newswatcher on an older Mac.

ditto. Works better, imho, than the related YA-Newswatcher. I prefer it
to anything I've tried so far on 'doze or 'nix. YMMV
--
"Keep your ass behind you."

On 10 Jun 2004 14:46:35 GMT, [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:

>I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
>all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
>newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
>what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
>that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
>available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

FreeAgent
www.Forteinc.com

There is no better news reader for groups such as this one.
BTW the AOL news reader is just about the worst one on the planet.

>With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
> what is new. that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

Got Outlook or OE preinstalled ? I use OE and can select exactly what yer
looking for:

1. Each time, shows NEW msgs only (cause I selected "hide READ msgs" in
OE). These are the NEW ones since I last checked the NG. The old ones are
"read" because
2. Also selected "mark all (current) msgs read" so once I shut down a NG,
theyre "Read". Theyre all still there IF I want to go up and click "show
ALL msgs". I know a lot of folks dislike OE but it suits me fine

R.

On 10 Jun 2004 14:46:35 GMT, [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:

>I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
>all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
>newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
>what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
>that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
>available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?


Agent.
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php

Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote

>In article <[email protected]>,
>[email protected] says...
>> There are a few freeware newsgroup readers that will make life easy. My
>> current preference is Gravity, it's free and you can get it at:
>> http://lightning.prohosting.com/~tbates/gravity/index.html

The above link takes you to New York Strippers "Providing the absolute best in
adult entertainment in New York." Seriously.

>> Since your new ISP doesn't support news you may need to subscribe to a
>> newsserver service. You can sign up for a free account on Free Berlin
>> service at: http://news.individual.net/ It's a text only- NO BINARIES,
>> so you'll have to scrounge elsewhere for your dose of woodpr0n from ABPW



>That's the combination I use too. The server is almost never
>down and it seems to get most articles. Most ISPs don't have a
>very complete news feed even if they do offer one.
>
>And Gravity isn't perfect, but it's about the best I've tried.
>The newsreader in Netcape 4.?? would be my second choice.

"WD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> I have use (paid) Agent since 95' and early this year upgrade to Agent
2.00.
> In my opinion it's still the BEST newsreader available.
>

Not a knock against paid programs, but what does it do that the free version
of OE does not do?
I click on a group and it shows me the messages. I click on the individual
message or thread that I want to read. I read it. At that point, the
software has served its purpose.

I mark all ignored posts as read and they do not show again. Or I hit
cntrl/shift/a and all messages are marked "read" and don't show the next
time I come back unless I change the view. I click on reply to reply. I
just ignore the tedious flaming threads, porn, etc.

I just can not image that I'm missing anything, but never having used
another reader, I honestly don't know if I am and don't want to spent $$ to
find out. I have no particular feelings for or against MS so that is not a
factor.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:

> Is there some newsgroup reader or other
> available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

What's your computer operating system?

I use MT-Newswatcher on an older Mac.

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>

"JFCBAS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can
mark
> all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes
up is
> newly posted,

Umm, you can do that with IE 6.0 also.

>With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and what is new.

IIRC by default IE6.0 has new unread posts in BOLD. After being read the
font goes to NON BOLD.

With IE 6.0 you can also hide all read message fromshowing up when you load
the program.

On 10 Jun 2004 14:46:35 GMT, JFCBAS <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm switching ISPs, from AOL. AOL has a great newsgroup reader-- you can mark
> all entries read so that the next time you sign on,everything that comes up is
> newly posted, With IE and Google, I can never tell what I've looked at and
> what is new. I also can't directly access newsgroups via my ISP, they tell me
> that they "don't support newsgroups". Is there some newsgroup reader or other
> available freeware or shareware that lets you manage newsgroups efficiently?

Sure. Get a shell account from an ISP such as Panix.com ($10/mo,
includes web space, email account, news group access, other stuff) or
evne a free shell account easily found using Google and get a text mode
newsreader such as slrn (what I use), tin, or gnus. Newsreading speed
like you've never known before ;) Just a bit less pretty.

nuk

--
I know more than enough *nix to do some very destructive things,
and not nearly enough to do very many useful things.

On 10-Jun-2004, [email protected] (JFCBAS) wrote:

> mark all entries read

That's probably the best way to read this group. With so many off-topic
posts, marking all messages read and moving on means you won't miss
much.

Mike
- who's got more folks killfiled in this ng than all others combined.
Can we create "alt.wooddorkers.with.nothing.to.do" for all these OT posts?