On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 14:40:37 -0500, Cape Cod Bob
<[email protected]> wrote:
>It's been many years and even more threads since Simple Green or
>similar cleaners was recommended by many to clean blades. If
>non-caustics do the job, why would anyone who's read this same thread
>many times continue to use lye/oven cleaner??
Sometimes Simple Green just dosen't cut it.
> Never wanted to try something else?
I ALWAYS use green chemicals first, for my own health. Sometimes the
stronger stuff is necessary. I've cleaned blades with oven cleaner,
simple green, and citrus cleaners. If someone has a can of oven
cleaner handy, I don't think they really need to run out and buy
something else to clean a blade.
> Disagree and
>think lye works better?
Only on real tough stuff. "Better" is a bad descriptor, "faster" is
better. <G>
Barry
Bob Summers wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> >what each of you use to clean your blades?
> >
> >
> Some saw blade cleaners are a lot like oven cleaner. I tried that one
> one on my saw blades (an Oldham) and it took all of the writing off of
> it. I've since bought some CMT saw blade cleaner (citrus based?) but
> I haven't tried it yet.
>
> Bob S
Not surprising, since lye will take paint off anything.
I see there is a lot of opinions about not using oven spray
which is just NaOH (lye). I'm not sure I believe the
statements about it being bad for carbide tipped blades.
Lye won't hurt steel, and I don't think it will do anything
to brass or the brazing used to set the carbide. However I
think they coat the carbide with something to help braze it
to the steel. If anything is attacked by lye it would be
that coating. Lye won't hurt a high carbon on moly chrome
blade but it sure will get it clean. If you have a mess
using it, then you aren't doing something right.
OTOH, Simple Green sure does dissolve a lot of stuff
easily. Works great on the car to get hardened road
products off the bottom of steel panel and trim. So, I have
no doubt it probably works great to clean saw blades. The
only problem is that the smell is pretty penetrating.
Rob wrote:
>
> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
Tom Hintz wrote:
>
> Woodworkers have used oven cleaner for a long time but blade
> manufacturers are warning against it saying it can attack the brazing
> that holds carbide teeth in place. Some say it can affect the carbide
> itself.
> I have a story about lceaning blades, including one of these warnings
> at the link below.
>
> http://www.newwoodworker.com/clnblades.html
>
> Tom Hintz
> www.newwoodworker.com
I think the site is mainly advertising the blade cleaner.
As for being extremely careful with blades and worrying
about the great strain they are under, I don't buy it. Sure
you want to be careful and not ruin the polish, and most of
us are pretty careful. But, a scratch on the blade isn't
going to do much unless you are running it way faster than
the recommended maximum and/or it's just a piece of crap. I
know my 10" blades run at about 3,000 rpm, way lower than
the blade maximums. I have no fear of using a metal tool or
a steel wire brush to clean a blade. How do you think they
got that brushed finish on some blades?
Some of us are just stick in the mud types. I havent't
tried Simple Green on saw blades yet. When I do and if it
works well, I will continue to use it. Occassionally you
get burned stuff, does Simple Green clean work as well on it
as lye does?
Cape Cod Bob wrote:
>
> It's been many years and even more threads since Simple Green or
> similar cleaners was recommended by many to clean blades. If
> non-caustics do the job, why would anyone who's read this same thread
> many times continue to use lye/oven cleaner?? Do you have a stockpile
> of oven cleaner? Never wanted to try something else? Disagree and
> think lye works better? Inquiring minds want to know.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>
Some saw blade cleaners are a lot like oven cleaner. I tried that one
one on my saw blades (an Oldham) and it took all of the writing off of
it. I've since bought some CMT saw blade cleaner (citrus based?) but
I haven't tried it yet.
Bob S
You know, the first time I cleaned my blades I used oven cleaner and
it worked great, but what a mess. I bought an old drill press and
used simple green to clean it up -- did a great job. Since then I've
used simple green for my router bits and my saw blades. I just squirt
it on a toothbrush and scrub away at the teeth/blades, and the
resin/gunk comes right off. It's great and pretty non-toxic from what
I understand as well.
Mike
"mkochsch" <mkochschREMOVE@THIS_1234.shaw.THISTOO.ca> wrote in message news:<n4kJb.921174$9l5.743651@pd7tw2no>...
> Oven cleaner and a brass brush. Use gloves.
>
> ~m
>
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> > what each of you use to clean your blades?
> >
> >
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
I've been using the Oxisolv cleaner. Works well for me.
"mkochsch" <mkochschREMOVE@THIS_1234.shaw.THISTOO.ca> wrote in message news:<n4kJb.921174$9l5.743651@pd7tw2no>...
> Oven cleaner and a brass brush. Use gloves.
>
> ~m
>
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> > what each of you use to clean your blades?
> >
> >
Rob,
I was setting my blades aside in a stack to be shipped to an outside
source to be sharpened, when I noticed how dirty the baldes were. I
had purchased a blade cleaner kit from Rockler and thought what better
time to test the product. WOW, What a difference!!!! My blades did
not need to be sharpened, they needed to be cleaned of resin and dark
pitch. The kit has a plastice wash basin, the cleaner, and a wire
brush.
I like the commercial blade cleaner better than oven cleaner for two
reasons, I had an ol' sharpening service man tell me that oven cleaner
attacks the bonding agent that they use to glue the carbide onto the
saw blank, plus the oven cleaner's has strong fumes.
When I used Rockler's blade cleaner, I let the blades soak over night.
Then I used the wire brush and it simply removed all the pitch. I
then rinsed with hot water, dried the blades and sprayed with Top Cote
to retard the rust.
The kit worked very well for me and I was very pleased with this
method. There are several others as well.
Good Luck,
Mike from American Sycamore
I've been using the CMT orange stuff but before used Simple Green. I don't
like using oven cleaners because they are caustic to me. The CMT and Simple
Green both are skin friendly. I have enough trouble just not cutting my self
on the blade, hahahaha.
Bernie
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
Dissolve about a quarter cup of washing soda in about a quart of warm water.
Let the blade soak for five minutes. The crud will wipe right off. Rinse the
blade clean, and dry it.
--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?
One thing I noticed about the Rockler kit was the brush started coming
apart. I lost about 12 or more bristles when cleaning the gullets. Then
again its not a huge complaint, brass brushes are cheap and I already
had a plastic handled one that I know won't come apart...
Other than that the kit worked okay.
--
The software said it ran under Windows 98/NT/2000, or better.
So I installed it on Linux...
"Mike at American Sycamore" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "mkochsch" <mkochschREMOVE@THIS_1234.shaw.THISTOO.ca> wrote in message
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> > Oven cleaner and a brass brush. Use gloves.
> >
> > ~m
> >
> > "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was
wondering
> > > what each of you use to clean your blades?
> > >
> > >
>
> Rob,
> I was setting my blades aside in a stack to be shipped to an outside
> source to be sharpened, when I noticed how dirty the baldes were. I
> had purchased a blade cleaner kit from Rockler and thought what better
> time to test the product. WOW, What a difference!!!! My blades did
> not need to be sharpened, they needed to be cleaned of resin and dark
> pitch. The kit has a plastice wash basin, the cleaner, and a wire
> brush.
>
> I like the commercial blade cleaner better than oven cleaner for two
> reasons, I had an ol' sharpening service man tell me that oven cleaner
> attacks the bonding agent that they use to glue the carbide onto the
> saw blank, plus the oven cleaner's has strong fumes.
>
> When I used Rockler's blade cleaner, I let the blades soak over night.
> Then I used the wire brush and it simply removed all the pitch. I
> then rinsed with hot water, dried the blades and sprayed with Top Cote
> to retard the rust.
> The kit worked very well for me and I was very pleased with this
> method. There are several others as well.
>
> Good Luck,
> Mike from American Sycamore
'Simple Green' soak, followed by a scrub with an old toothbrush . . . if
needed.
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>
[email protected] (Nate Perkins) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was
>> wondering what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
> I've been using the Oxisolv cleaner. Works well for me.
I bought a bottle of stuff called, CMT formula 2050, at highland hardware,
safe for your hands, and works like a champ, spray on, and wait a minute or
two and wipe off, and the pitch is gone...I saved a few tablesaw blades
using it...
Hope this helps...
DCH
check out my site @ http://dchaynie.home.mindspring.com
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
Mainly I use the isolator switch.
409 and a brass brush or the Green stuff and a brass brush...
Let it set for 10-30 min, depending on how bad it is, use the brush to clean
the gullets, dry then wax or spray on your favorite rust preventative.
Bob S.
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>
Woodworkers have used oven cleaner for a long time but blade
manufacturers are warning against it saying it can attack the brazing
that holds carbide teeth in place. Some say it can affect the carbide
itself.
I have a story about lceaning blades, including one of these warnings
at the link below.
http://www.newwoodworker.com/clnblades.html
Tom Hintz
www.newwoodworker.com
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I think the site is mainly advertising the blade cleaner.
Not so. There is no linkage to any product in the story.
When folks like Frued say there are substances you should not use on a
blade, I think that is worthy of putting in a story, and listening to.
There are too many alternatives available to go ahead and use caustic
cleaners.
I do wish I was making all this money some seem so sure I am though!
Tom Hintz
www.newwoodworker.com
On 02 Jan 2004 20:11:21 EST, [email protected] (Bob
Summers) wrote:
>On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>>what each of you use to clean your blades?
>>
>>
>Some saw blade cleaners are a lot like oven cleaner. I tried that one
>one on my saw blades (an Oldham) and it took all of the writing off of
>it. I've since bought some CMT saw blade cleaner (citrus based?) but
>I haven't tried it yet.
>
>Bob S
The oven cleaner will remove the CMT lettering too (but so what).
Mark down the information before cleaning the blade.
"George E. Cawthon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Some of us are just stick in the mud types. I havent't
> tried Simple Green on saw blades yet. When I do and if it
> works well, I will continue to use it. Occassionally you
> get burned stuff, does Simple Green clean work as well on it
> as lye does?
>
> Cape Cod Bob wrote:
> >
> > It's been many years and even more threads since Simple Green or
> > similar cleaners was recommended by many to clean blades. If
> > non-caustics do the job, why would anyone who's read this same thread
> > many times continue to use lye/oven cleaner?? Do you have a stockpile
> > of oven cleaner? Never wanted to try something else? Disagree and
> > think lye works better? Inquiring minds want to know.
Castrol Super Clean has worked well for me on saw blades and
router bits.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
I clean my table saw blade by placing it in a round plastic auto oil
pan, spraying it with oven cleaner, waiting 5 minutes, brushing with
an old toothbrush and rinsing well in clear water. I clean it
outdoors. The quality of a rip cut is (surprisingly) improved after
cleaning.
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>
I use Simple Green. It's fast. And, easy to get around the corner at the
grocery store.
Roy
Oven cleaner and a brass brush. Use gloves.
~m
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>
Use straight Simple Green and let it soak for a while
Some folks say they have good results with Oven Cleaners, but I tend
to be leery of strong bases (like lye) which is pretty much what most
oven cleaners are
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
Rob said:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
I use Simple Green and a really stiff nylon brush. For those hard to
remove deposits I will sometimes carefully use a brass brush. I put
the blade in an oil drain pan that fits the blade perfectly, and the
high sides catch the crap that brushing slings everywhere. Spray the
blade down, and soak for 10-15 minutes - then brush.
Greg G.
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:38:56 -0600, "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
>what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
Oven cleaner, orange cleaner, or simple green, whatever's easiest to
grab. I scrub, if necessary, with a plastic bristle brush.
Barry
It's been many years and even more threads since Simple Green or
similar cleaners was recommended by many to clean blades. If
non-caustics do the job, why would anyone who's read this same thread
many times continue to use lye/oven cleaner?? Do you have a stockpile
of oven cleaner? Never wanted to try something else? Disagree and
think lye works better? Inquiring minds want to know.
I wait till all my blades are dirty, then I hang them on wires on the sides
of my car. I drive through the carwash. Turn them over, then drive through
again. Works great. Needless to say, I get a lot of stares.
Good luck.
Joe
I can't believe the rest of you guys were so damn serious.
Be sure to check-out our webpages...
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"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I see the stuff advertised in the woodworking catalogs but was wondering
> what each of you use to clean your blades?
>
>