Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid. I still have it, and by
the standards of its era, it's an admirable household fixture. It is a
massive construction of maple wood, expertly joined with cunningly fit
pieces, fitted and glued with the strength of iron. It is set with
massive brass fixtures, and looks today -- discounting the dust -- as
new as the day it was purchased, a quarter century ago. So far, so
good; a fine piece of furniture, you might say. But let's look at it
objectively, as a machine, as an object with a purpose. Here sit a
hundred pounds of hardwood with a compressive strength of 1500 psi,
jointed by an expert craftsman into a rigid box that would easily
support a bull elephant. And what is the sole purpose of this massive
crate, this monument to a dead tree? -- it holds my socks. Not only is
it blind engineering overkill of epic proportions, it is also an
environmental disaster. The home to generations of squirrels, a
sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
friends, is no way to run a planet. -- Marshall T. Savage, from The
Millennial Project: Colonizing the Galaxy -- In Eight Easy Steps
Doug in western NC
Doug laments:
The home to generations of squirrels, a
> > sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> > living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear.
I'm sure the squirrels apreciate your efforts.
Roger Poplin dba [email protected]
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> |
> | This, my friends, is no way to run a planet.
>
> Do you have any idea what's required to get a pound of aluminum? Eight
> ounces of plastic? Give thanks for a planet that provides a strong,
> workable, fully renewable material that also happens to look really gorgeous
> wrapped around your underwear.
>
> --Jay
>
>
Given the rant spewing from the upper orifice, it probably also looks
a darn sight prettier than his underwear also.
> The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> friends, is no way to run a planet.
Where would you like to put your underwear? Any type of container
comes from a resource on the planet, so unless you live like the
animals and dispense with your clothing, something will have to do.
At least trees are replaceable.
Doug Siddens <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
> Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
> dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid.
<snip>
>The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> friends, is no way to run a planet.
The soul of practicality. Was it just me, or did anyone else hear
tounge planted in cheek and/or an honest philsophical pondering in
this post before popping off? I almost laughed out loud at the line
about enshrining my underwear. Heck, it's not even _folded_, much
less enshrined. (Life it too short to fold underwear.)
However, in the spirit of playing along, I assume:
*Your house is sided in brown vinyl. (no paint, shows little dirt)
*Your floors are concrete. (don't need no dead trees underfoot)
*The walls in your house lack texture and are sealed with a satin
semi-gloss white. (texture is unnecessary as is color, semi-gloss
cleans easiest)
*There are no pictures on your walls. (why print on dead trees when we
can keep the pix electronically or simply in our brains)
and last but not least:
*Your house is constructed entirely of used, recycled tires. (more
energy efficient than sawing down wildlife habitat...after all, who
are we to take someone else's house to create our own?)
-adb
(who should be working)
On 2-Dec-2003, [email protected] (Larry Bud) wrote:
> > The home to generations of squirrels, a
> > sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> > living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> > friends, is no way to run a planet.
>
> Where would you like to put your underwear? Any type of container
> comes from a resource on the planet, so unless you live like the
> animals and dispense with your clothing, something will have to do.
> At least trees are replaceable.
Environmentally speaking, using wood for furniture can be considered a
good thing. First we'll assume it's responsibly harvested, The resultant
locking up of all that carbon in a permanent piece of furniture is a kind
of sequestration - otherwise, the CO2 is returned to the atmosphere.
Simiarly, if SWMBO complains about the amount of wood stacked up in
the basement/garage/whatever, just point out the benefits of carbon
sequestration and greenhouse gas reduction. :-)
Mike
Think about a stone bridge crossing a creek in the woods. Now think about
what might live under such a heavy structure.
You guessed it.......... a TROLL!!!!!!!!
"Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
> Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
> dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid. I still have it, and by
> the standards of its era, it's an admirable household fixture. It is a
> massive construction of maple wood, expertly joined with cunningly fit
> pieces, fitted and glued with the strength of iron. It is set with
> massive brass fixtures, and looks today -- discounting the dust -- as
> new as the day it was purchased, a quarter century ago. So far, so
> good; a fine piece of furniture, you might say. But let's look at it
> objectively, as a machine, as an object with a purpose. Here sit a
> hundred pounds of hardwood with a compressive strength of 1500 psi,
> jointed by an expert craftsman into a rigid box that would easily
> support a bull elephant. And what is the sole purpose of this massive
> crate, this monument to a dead tree? -- it holds my socks. Not only is
> it blind engineering overkill of epic proportions, it is also an
> environmental disaster. The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> friends, is no way to run a planet. -- Marshall T. Savage, from The
> Millennial Project: Colonizing the Galaxy -- In Eight Easy Steps
>
>
>
> Doug in western NC
Doug Siddens <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear.
Of course, if it wasn't chopped down and converted into a piece of
furniture that, by his own account, is likely to be around for
hundreds of years, then it just would have fallen over & rotted
eventually. Either way the squirrels don't get to keep it.
John
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > The home to generations of squirrels, a
> > sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> > living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear.
>
>
> Good God man, I'm gonna barf. The first post I click on after a week away
> from the group is this? WTF?
>
Yeah, it's sad when members of the Sierra club slip their leashes. ;-)
"Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
|
| This, my friends, is no way to run a planet.
Do you have any idea what's required to get a pound of aluminum? Eight
ounces of plastic? Give thanks for a planet that provides a strong,
workable, fully renewable material that also happens to look really gorgeous
wrapped around your underwear.
--Jay
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > The home to generations of squirrels, a
> > sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> > living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear.
>
> Good God man, I'm gonna barf. The first post I click on after a week away
> from the group is this? WTF?
>
Hey! At least he didn't complain that those generations of squirrels
were killing the tree's unborn children :-).
Oh, I forgot. Other animals are allowed to kill things.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
"Sweet Sawdust" wrote in message
> If you look at it that way wood working has been obsolete for several
years.
> It is labor intensive, inefficient, and cost inefficient. Factory runs of
> items such as furniture can be done much more efficiently using plastic
and
> composite materials then can be done using real wood
Agree, however and thus far, some things must be made of wood to be pleasing
to one or more senses. Hollow body musical instruments of plastic/composite
hold no candle to real wood, despite the attempts with models like the
Ovation guitar.
> It has no redeeming
> qualities except it allows for the soul of man to be expressed in tune
with
> nature in a way that no factory made plastic junk will ever equal.
That's one hell of an exception.
Good post!
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> Good Lord i hope i can create such a legacy.
Hopefully you will bestow it upon someone a bit more intelligent and
appreciative.
> "Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
> > Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
> > dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid. I still have it, and by
> > the standards of its era, it's an admirable household fixture. It is a
> > massive construction of maple wood, expertly joined with cunningly fit
> > pieces, fitted and glued with the strength of iron. It is set with
> > massive brass fixtures, and looks today -- discounting the dust -- as
> > new as the day it was purchased, a quarter century ago. So far, so
> > good; a fine piece of furniture, you might say. But let's look at it
> > objectively, as a machine, as an object with a purpose. Here sit a
> > hundred pounds of hardwood with a compressive strength of 1500 psi,
> > jointed by an expert craftsman into a rigid box that would easily
> > support a bull elephant. And what is the sole purpose of this massive
> > crate, this monument to a dead tree? -- it holds my socks. Not only is
> > it blind engineering overkill of epic proportions, it is also an
> > environmental disaster. The home to generations of squirrels, a
> > sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> > living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> > friends, is no way to run a planet. -- Marshall T. Savage, from The
> > Millennial Project: Colonizing the Galaxy -- In Eight Easy Steps
> >
> >
> >
> > Doug in western NC
>
>
>
"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Think about a stone bridge crossing a creek in the woods. Now think about
> what might live under such a heavy structure.
>
> You guessed it.......... a TROLL!!!!!!!!
Shhh Rob! If you scare off the troll then Norm Nowrecki won't come back! :)
Rob
http://www.amateurtermite.com
"Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear.
Good God man, I'm gonna barf. The first post I click on after a week away
from the group is this? WTF?
On 3 Dec 2003 10:19:26 -0800, [email protected] (aaron) wrote:
>Doug Siddens <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
>> Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
>> dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid.
><snip>
>>The home to generations of squirrels, a
>> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
>> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
>> friends, is no way to run a planet.
>
>The soul of practicality. Was it just me, or did anyone else hear
>tounge planted in cheek and/or an honest philsophical pondering in
>this post before popping off? I almost laughed out loud at the line
>about enshrining my underwear. Heck, it's not even _folded_, much
>less enshrined. (Life it too short to fold underwear.)
Thank you. I was wondering if the group had totally lost it's mind
(or, at least, sense of humor).
A bit of a wordsmith, we might have here.
Renata
>
>However, in the spirit of playing along, I assume:
>*Your house is sided in brown vinyl. (no paint, shows little dirt)
>*Your floors are concrete. (don't need no dead trees underfoot)
>*The walls in your house lack texture and are sealed with a satin
>semi-gloss white. (texture is unnecessary as is color, semi-gloss
>cleans easiest)
>*There are no pictures on your walls. (why print on dead trees when we
>can keep the pix electronically or simply in our brains)
>
>and last but not least:
>*Your house is constructed entirely of used, recycled tires. (more
>energy efficient than sawing down wildlife habitat...after all, who
>are we to take someone else's house to create our own?)
>
>-adb
>(who should be working)
smart, not dumb for email
Sweet Sawdust wrote:
> If you look at it that way wood working has been obsolete for several years.
> It is labor intensive, inefficient, and cost inefficient. Factory runs of
> items such as furniture can be done much more efficiently using plastic and
> composite materials then can be done using real wood. It has no redeeming
> qualities except it allows for the soul of man to be expressed in tune with
> nature in a way that no factory made plastic junk will ever equal. When we
> ventured into the last frontier we took items of wood that were made for
> their beauty not only their usefulness, when we go into space we will take
> items of wood for their beauty not only their usefulness. Of what value
> would the conquest of space be if we left our souls behind. Woodwork
> fulfills our need to express ourselves in a way that no other art form does.
> When the work of Jesus was chosen it was not a random profession but the one
> that expressed our need to become one with God or nature if you prefer. The
> hewer of wood is always the humblest of professions, but the one that all
> great minds resort to get back in touch with their souls. Obsolete maybe
> but one that will live as long as men need to be men and not machines. IMHO
When I made my 2 year old a rocking horse (from plans from Woodsmith
magazine), it took me 4 months worth of Saturdays, probably 60 hours,
total. I could have easily bought a horse from a good shop nearby, but
to give this to my daughter was special. To hear her tell her friends,
"my day made this horse for me" is priceless. Those who don't understand
this can't be convinced, any more than some who hates to cook can be
convinced that there's a joy that comes with the process of cooking a
good meal from scratch. Those who work with wood, or have an
appreciation for the process certainly understand your note above and
agree whole heartedly.....
Good Lord i hope i can create such a legacy.
"Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
> Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
> dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid. I still have it, and by
> the standards of its era, it's an admirable household fixture. It is a
> massive construction of maple wood, expertly joined with cunningly fit
> pieces, fitted and glued with the strength of iron. It is set with
> massive brass fixtures, and looks today -- discounting the dust -- as
> new as the day it was purchased, a quarter century ago. So far, so
> good; a fine piece of furniture, you might say. But let's look at it
> objectively, as a machine, as an object with a purpose. Here sit a
> hundred pounds of hardwood with a compressive strength of 1500 psi,
> jointed by an expert craftsman into a rigid box that would easily
> support a bull elephant. And what is the sole purpose of this massive
> crate, this monument to a dead tree? -- it holds my socks. Not only is
> it blind engineering overkill of epic proportions, it is also an
> environmental disaster. The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> friends, is no way to run a planet. -- Marshall T. Savage, from The
> Millennial Project: Colonizing the Galaxy -- In Eight Easy Steps
>
>
>
> Doug in western NC
If you look at it that way wood working has been obsolete for several years.
It is labor intensive, inefficient, and cost inefficient. Factory runs of
items such as furniture can be done much more efficiently using plastic and
composite materials then can be done using real wood. It has no redeeming
qualities except it allows for the soul of man to be expressed in tune with
nature in a way that no factory made plastic junk will ever equal. When we
ventured into the last frontier we took items of wood that were made for
their beauty not only their usefulness, when we go into space we will take
items of wood for their beauty not only their usefulness. Of what value
would the conquest of space be if we left our souls behind. Woodwork
fulfills our need to express ourselves in a way that no other art form does.
When the work of Jesus was chosen it was not a random profession but the one
that expressed our need to become one with God or nature if you prefer. The
hewer of wood is always the humblest of professions, but the one that all
great minds resort to get back in touch with their souls. Obsolete maybe
but one that will live as long as men need to be men and not machines. IMHO
"Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Speaking of the philosophy > . But let's look at it
objectively, as a machine, as an object with a purpose. Here sit a
> hundred pounds of hardwood with a compressive strength of 1500 psi,
> jointed by an expert craftsman into a rigid box that would easily
> support a bull elephant. And what is the sole purpose of this massive
> crate, this monument to a dead tree? -- it holds my socks. Not only is
> it blind engineering overkill of epic proportions, it is also an
> environmental disaster. The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> friends, is no way to run a planet. -- Marshall T. Savage, from The
> Millennial Project: Colonizing the Galaxy -- In Eight Easy Steps
>
>
>
> Doug in western NC
and what do you have to say about pieces of art... ?
Bob S.
"Doug Siddens" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Speaking of the philosophy involved in moving humanity into space:
> Furniture will be a largely obsolete concept. Take for example the
> dresser my mom bought for me when I was a kid. I still have it, and by
> the standards of its era, it's an admirable household fixture. It is a
> massive construction of maple wood, expertly joined with cunningly fit
> pieces, fitted and glued with the strength of iron. It is set with
> massive brass fixtures, and looks today -- discounting the dust -- as
> new as the day it was purchased, a quarter century ago. So far, so
> good; a fine piece of furniture, you might say. But let's look at it
> objectively, as a machine, as an object with a purpose. Here sit a
> hundred pounds of hardwood with a compressive strength of 1500 psi,
> jointed by an expert craftsman into a rigid box that would easily
> support a bull elephant. And what is the sole purpose of this massive
> crate, this monument to a dead tree? -- it holds my socks. Not only is
> it blind engineering overkill of epic proportions, it is also an
> environmental disaster. The home to generations of squirrels, a
> sentinel post for falcons, an autumnal banner of golden glory, a
> living creature, was chopped down to enshrine some underwear. This, my
> friends, is no way to run a planet. -- Marshall T. Savage, from The
> Millennial Project: Colonizing the Galaxy -- In Eight Easy Steps
>
>
>
> Doug in western NC