A really ugly effect on end grain for an arts and crafts dresser

I would attach a quartersawn edge. Overall great job however.

I see that I may have a problem with the length of the URL. I hope
that this will correct it.



dresser

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstained1.jpg

showing edge

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/desserstained2.jpg



showing closeup of edge

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstained3.jpg





Eric Anderson wrote:
> I have a grain problem that I would like the newsgroup's opinion on.
I have
> an arts & crafts dresser that is in quartersawn oak. The problem is
that
> the edge of the top has a really UGLY grain figure. Yea, I should
have done
> something in my choice, but I did not realize how bad it would turn
out. My
> chest of drawers ...
>
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/finisheddresser004.jpg
>
> did not show this up in the same way. This is the dresser. It has
just
> been stained, but I am willing to do some drastic things if
necessary.
>
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
> 1.jpg
>
> I would like to get your opinion on it. I have pointed to pictures
of the
> arts and crafts dresser. As I said, the wood is quarter sawn and I
was able
> to get the quarter sawn edge on almost every area, but the top edge
shows
> plain sawn. Worse yet, when it got stained, it gives the appearance
of the
> stain running.
>
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/panaramaoftopedgeofdesser.jp
> g
>
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
> 9.jpg
>
> My question is:
>
> Is there a finishing solution (possibly to de-accent the grain)
> Should I bite the bullet and take the top off and attach a quarter
sawn
> edge?
>
> Eric Anderson

Well, I tried an idea I was given. I used some paste wood filler and
sanded it down. Here is the result. Ordinarily, I am TRYING to accent
the grain, but in this instance, as was stated above, I want a dye
stain look on this edge only. Using filler does that.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/fillertest002.jpg

Eric

Not to sugges tthat you hcange the dresser now but the way
to prevent this next time is to bevel the front edge of the
top piece and glue on a separate strip with a right-triangular
cross-section and quarter-sawn grain showing on the part that
will be seen. Here is an attempt at illustrating with ASCII
art, which should be viewed with a non-proportionate font:

---------------
/ |
/ |
___________/___|

Stickly did something like this with his square pieces,
making each from four right-triangular sections so that
the quarter-sawn grain showed on all four faces.

If you are good with artist's oil paints, or know someone
who is you could paint fuax quarter sawn grain on the
edge in question.

BTW, that's not an end-grain effect that is bothering you,
is is a side-grain effect, to be accurate.

--

FF

Well, you are all on the money. The approach of putting a quarter sawn
edge on it would be the way to go. I did use the paste wood filling
technique and if it went any further, Foggytown would hit the nail on
the head. It is real close now to being too subdued. I am going to
complete it as is.

Eric Anderson wrote:
> I have a grain problem that I would like the newsgroup's opinion on. I have
> an arts & crafts dresser that is in quartersawn oak. The problem is that
> the edge of the top has a really UGLY grain figure. Yea, I should have done
> something in my choice, but I did not realize how bad it would turn out. My
> chest of drawers ...
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/finisheddresser004.jpg
>
> did not show this up in the same way. This is the dresser. It has just
> been stained, but I am willing to do some drastic things if necessary.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
> 1.jpg
>
> I would like to get your opinion on it. I have pointed to pictures of the
> arts and crafts dresser. As I said, the wood is quarter sawn and I was able
> to get the quarter sawn edge on almost every area, but the top edge shows
> plain sawn. Worse yet, when it got stained, it gives the appearance of the
> stain running.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/panaramaoftopedgeofdesser.jp
> g
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
> 9.jpg
>
> My question is:
>
> Is there a finishing solution (possibly to de-accent the grain)
> Should I bite the bullet and take the top off and attach a quarter sawn
> edge?
>
> Eric Anderson
>
>
Eric, the dresser is beautiful. I wouldn't do a thing. That's the
natural grain pattern on the quarter sawn oak.

I am building a mantel our of quarter sawn oak and have been trying to
get the color of finish similar to what you have here. Would you mind
describing what stain you used, the method of application, and your
sanding procedure. I have been sanding to 220 and everytime I wipe the
excess stain, dye, gel off, it leaves the wood too light. To get it to
a deeper color, I have had to not wipe off hardly any and I am concerned
that when I apply the top coat, it will loosen the stain and ruin the
finish.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

David

On 10 Feb 2005 12:37:18 -0800, the inscrutable [email protected]
spake:

>I see that I may have a problem with the length of the URL. I hope
>that this will correct it.

It did. Throw your pigment stain away NOW, Eric. Karma has spoken.
;)

Try fuming and waxing next time. If you must stain, try an aniline
dye. www.wdlockwood.com They give free shipping on your first order
and I hear that their prices are half that of other stores.


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"Eric Anderson" wrote in message
> I have a grain problem that I would like the newsgroup's opinion on. I
have
> an arts & crafts dresser that is in quartersawn oak. The problem is that
> the edge of the top has a really UGLY grain figure. Yea, I should have
done
> something in my choice, but I did not realize how bad it would turn out.
My
> chest of drawers ...

Damn, Bubba ... beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder. The contrast
is gorgeous to my way of thinking. I do it on purpose just to get that look.

Besides, if you mess with it, Joat's gonna have to be placating the ww gods
again, and he's getting cranky in his old age.

In short, leave it alone! You'll be glad you did.


--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04

I would leave it alone. I don't think the work required to "really fix it"
would be worth the time involved. Wood is not perfect.


"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have a grain problem that I would like the newsgroup's opinion on. I
>have
> an arts & crafts dresser that is in quartersawn oak. The problem is that
> the edge of the top has a really UGLY grain figure. Yea, I should have
> done
> something in my choice, but I did not realize how bad it would turn out.
> My
> chest of drawers ...
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/finisheddresser004.jpg
>
> did not show this up in the same way. This is the dresser. It has just
> been stained, but I am willing to do some drastic things if necessary.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
> 1.jpg
>
> I would like to get your opinion on it. I have pointed to pictures of the
> arts and crafts dresser. As I said, the wood is quarter sawn and I was
> able
> to get the quarter sawn edge on almost every area, but the top edge shows
> plain sawn. Worse yet, when it got stained, it gives the appearance of
> the
> stain running.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/panaramaoftopedgeofdesser.jp
> g
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
> 9.jpg
>
> My question is:
>
> Is there a finishing solution (possibly to de-accent the grain)
> Should I bite the bullet and take the top off and attach a quarter sawn
> edge?
>
> Eric Anderson
>
>

Where's the ugly stuff? I couldn't see it. Maybe you could put an arrow
on the photo so I know what to agree with.

OK now that I'm finished pulling your ...

Looks fine to me.

Nice work!

If you are not happy with it though... I will haul it away free.
Normally I would charge for the service -- but since you are unhappy... :-))



[email protected] wrote:
> I see that I may have a problem with the length of the URL. I hope
> that this will correct it.
>
>
>
> dresser
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstained1.jpg
>
> showing edge
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/desserstained2.jpg
>
>
>
> showing closeup of edge
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstained3.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> Eric Anderson wrote:
>
>>I have a grain problem that I would like the newsgroup's opinion on.
>
> I have
>
>>an arts & crafts dresser that is in quartersawn oak. The problem is
>
> that
>
>>the edge of the top has a really UGLY grain figure. Yea, I should
>
> have done
>
>>something in my choice, but I did not realize how bad it would turn
>
> out. My
>
>>chest of drawers ...
>>
>>
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/finisheddresser004.jpg
>
>>did not show this up in the same way. This is the dresser. It has
>
> just
>
>>been stained, but I am willing to do some drastic things if
>
> necessary.
>
>>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
>
>>1.jpg
>>
>>I would like to get your opinion on it. I have pointed to pictures
>
> of the
>
>>arts and crafts dresser. As I said, the wood is quarter sawn and I
>
> was able
>
>>to get the quarter sawn edge on almost every area, but the top edge
>
> shows
>
>>plain sawn. Worse yet, when it got stained, it gives the appearance
>
> of the
>
>>stain running.
>>
>>
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/panaramaoftopedgeofdesser.jp
>
>>g
>>
>>
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/eganders/Dresserstainedbeforefinish00
>
>>9.jpg
>>
>>My question is:
>>
>>Is there a finishing solution (possibly to de-accent the grain)
>>Should I bite the bullet and take the top off and attach a quarter
>
> sawn
>
>>edge?
>>
>>Eric Anderson
>
>

--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Is there a finishing solution (possibly to de-accent the grain)
> Should I bite the bullet and take the top off and attach a quarter
> sawn edge?

If anything, redo the edge. The problem is that YOU know that this isn't
what you wanted, and it's likely going to bug you.

The first table I did, a small nightstand, has the same problem with one of
the legs. It's in the guest room, tucked in a corner, hiding.

Patriarch

Obviously it is a matter of taste, but from what I can see in the photo the
figure of the side of the top is attractive and forms a good visual boundary
to the front view. My advice, for what it's worth is keep it as it is.

Brian Duberley