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Zylogue

25/05/2004 7:55 AM

Traditional Woodworking shop

Greetings Everyone,

I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.

There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.

Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
old were laid out and equipt?

Thanks

Daniel Curry


This topic has 8 replies

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"Wilson"

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

25/05/2004 11:03 AM

Check out Roy Underhill and his books.
There were lots of machines then, but many people using old methods too, so
you have to carefully define the type of shop...amateur, small town, small
production, professional cabinet, furniture, etc. The time window covers a
lot of innovation, so there would likely have been a mix of technological
levels too. You have a lot of reading to do, and planes to buy!
The old tool organizations would be a great source, as well as the antique
machinery people (antiquemachinery.woodworking or some such.
Wilson
"Zylogue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UZCsc.39816$zw.25542@attbi_s01...
> Greetings Everyone,
>
> I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
>
> There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
>
> Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> old were laid out and equipt?
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniel Curry
>

Mm

"Montyhp"

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

25/05/2004 5:28 AM

Colonial Williamsburg comes to mind. They are definitely 18th century, but
the folks in the woodworking shop could probably give you an idea of the
advances in the next 70-90 years. Any chance you are in the mid atlantic?

Montyhp

"Zylogue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UZCsc.39816$zw.25542@attbi_s01...
> Greetings Everyone,
>
> I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
>
> There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
>
> Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> old were laid out and equipt?
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniel Curry
>

LH

"Lowell Holmes"

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

25/05/2004 7:10 AM

A Google produced 2,770 entries. enter the following *woodworking shop
"nineteenth century"*


http://www.google.com/search?as_q=woodworking+shop+&num=10&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=nineteenth+century&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images



"Zylogue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UZCsc.39816$zw.25542@attbi_s01...
> Greetings Everyone,
>
> I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
>
> There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
>
> Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> old were laid out and equipt?
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniel Curry
>

b

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

26/05/2004 9:11 AM

On Wed, 26 May 2004 06:16:52 GMT, Zylogue <[email protected]> wrote:

>I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions. Living in
>California (San Francisco Bay Area) There really are not that many
>historic parks to visit to get these details.
>
>I have been looking into building that 'first woodworkers workbench'. I
>have access to a 'table top' piece of eucalyptus that is 4" thick, 3'
>wide, and 8' long. Will eucalyptus make a good top for the workbench?
> I know it makes a great 'stump' for my blacksmithing anvil.


if you can get it to dry without warping or splitting too badly it
will make a great bench top.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

25/05/2004 4:48 AM

Zylogue wrote:

> Greetings Everyone,
>
> I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
>
> There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
>
> Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> old were laid out and equipt?

If you're in driving distance of Hancock, MA (western Mass, not Boston area)
or feel like taking a trip Hancock Shaker Village might be a good bet. If
you call them and explain what you're working on they may be able to
suggest some reference material.

> Thanks
>
> Daniel Curry

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Gn

"Gary"

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

25/05/2004 6:59 AM


"Montyhp" <montyhpatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Colonial Williamsburg comes to mind. They are definitely 18th century,
but
> the folks in the woodworking shop could probably give you an idea of the
> advances in the next 70-90 years. Any chance you are in the mid atlantic?
>
> Montyhp
>
> "Zylogue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:UZCsc.39816$zw.25542@attbi_s01...
> > Greetings Everyone,
> >
> > I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> > era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> > samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> > traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> > benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
> >
> > There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> > and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> > shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> > 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
> >
> > Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> > old were laid out and equipt?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Daniel Curry
> >
>
>
Likewise for the Museum of American Frontier Culture in Staunton, Virginia,
an affiliate of Colonial Williamsburg and the Jamestown - Yorktown
Foundation. The Museum focuses exactly on the period you noted.

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

25/05/2004 7:55 AM

A triditional shop start is centered around a traditional bench. See "The
workbench book" by Landis for a great start.

-Steve

"Zylogue" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UZCsc.39816$zw.25542@attbi_s01...
> Greetings Everyone,
>
> I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
>
> There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
>
> Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> old were laid out and equipt?
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniel Curry
>

Zz

Zylogue

in reply to Zylogue on 25/05/2004 7:55 AM

26/05/2004 6:16 AM

I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions. Living in
California (San Francisco Bay Area) There really are not that many
historic parks to visit to get these details.

I have been looking into building that 'first woodworkers workbench'. I
have access to a 'table top' piece of eucalyptus that is 4" thick, 3'
wide, and 8' long. Will eucalyptus make a good top for the workbench?
I know it makes a great 'stump' for my blacksmithing anvil.

Thanks again for all the great details.

Daniel Curry

Zylogue wrote:

> Greetings Everyone,
>
> I have been asked to help build/create a 19th century (1840 to 1890's
> era) traditional woodshop. I have failed teribly at finding online
> samples, diagrams, descriptions or layouts of original general purpose
> traditional woodworkshops online. I am also interested in the tools,
> benches, and 'machines' that may have been used in that timeframe.
>
> There are, however, certain limitations. I am a blacksmith by hobby,
> and the tools and 'machines' have to either be made on the blacksmith
> shop, or bought in some fashion that would demonstrate the age and
> 'originality' of that item's use in the desired time frame.
>
> Does anyone know where I might get more information on how the shops of
> old were laid out and equipt?
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniel Curry
>


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