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I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. The front will have 2 =
doors, half width and about 1 1/2" deep. All opening joints will be =
carved over to hide the joint.=20
What I am having trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the =
hinges. The doors will have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open. =
The swing will be about 135 deg. for each door. The carving will vary =
from 1/4" to 3/4" in depth.
I hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and it don't too much =
sense to me.
--=20
Richard,=20
Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=3Dthewizz
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Fri, Jan 2, 2004, 4:10pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Richard=A0L.=A0Rombold) claims:
I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. <snip> it don't too
much sense to me.
I've got news for you, doesn't make much sense to me either. You
expecting a bunch of people are going to tilt it up, and look at the
bottom? Now, if you'd said the inside of the lid, I could at east
understand that, but the bottom? You did say all 6 sides, and the last
I'd heard, the inside of the lid doesn't count as a side. Either that,
or you didn't express yourself clearly.
A couple of minutes on google will probably give your info on
hinges.
JOAT
Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of
enthusiasm.
- Sir Winston Churchill
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 2 Jan 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
some form of 'invisible' hinges would seem to be a possibility.
see <http://www.soss.com> for a couple of possibilities.
In article <[email protected]>,
Richard L. Rombold <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
>
> I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. The front will have 2
>doors, half width and about 1 1/2" deep. All opening joints will be
>carved over to hide the joint.
>What I am having trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the
>hinges. The doors will have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open.
>The swing will be about 135 deg. for each door. The carving will vary
>from 1/4" to 3/4" in depth.
>I hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and it don't too much
>sense to me.
>
>--
>
>
>
>Richard,
>
>Richard L. Rombold
>WIZARD WOODWORKING
>489 N. 32nd. St.
>Springfield, Or .97478
>
> http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=thewizz
>
>"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste
>good with ketchup"
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i certainly agree this man has the knack and know how to take visual =
things he sees from the wood,truly gifted
hats off to you Richard
"Bob S." <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
Richard,
Not sure this will work exactly as you're describing but this site =
http://www.suigenerisfurniture.co.uk/gpcdet.htm has somewhat of an =
example on how to incorporate the hinges into the carvings. Hiding the =
hinges may be more difficult than incorporating them into the design.
You may want to try carving wooden knuckle hinges into the stile of =
the door and the frame and then using the above example to make them =
part of the carving. From the work I saw on your web site, you =
certainly are capable of doing that.
Bob S.
"Richard L. Rombold" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. The front will =
have 2 doors, half width and about 1 1/2" deep. All opening joints will =
be carved over to hide the joint.=20
What I am having trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the =
hinges. The doors will have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open. =
The swing will be about 135 deg. for each door. The carving will vary =
from 1/4" to 3/4" in depth.
I hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and it don't too much =
sense to me.
--=20
Richard,=20
Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=3Dthewizz
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and =
taste good with ketchup"
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>i certainly agree this man has the =
knack and know=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>hats off to you Richard</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure this will work exactly as =
you're=20
describing but this site <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.suigenerisfurniture.co.uk/gpcdet.htm">http://www.suige=
nerisfurniture.co.uk/gpcdet.htm</A> =20
has somewhat of an example on how to incorporate the hinges into the =
carvings.=20
Hiding the hinges may be more difficult than incorporating them into =
the=20
design.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may want to try carving wooden =
knuckle hinges=20
into the stile of the door and the frame and then using the above =
example to=20
make them part of the carving. From the work I saw on your web =
site, you=20
certainly are capable of doing that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob S.</FONT></DIV>
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will be=20
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deep. All=20
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having=20
trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the hinges. The doors =
will=20
have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open. The swing will be =
about 135=20
deg. for each door. The carving will vary from 1/4" to 3/4" in =
depth.<BR>I=20
hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and it don't too much =
sense to=20
me.<BR><BR>-- <BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richard, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richard L. Rombold<BR>WIZARD WOODWORKING<BR>489 N. 32nd.=20
St.<BR>Springfield, Or .97478</DIV>
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Thank for all the coments and help. I think at this time I will go with =
a tpye of inline hinges and a sliding panel in the case. And yes "T" the =
bottom will be carved. The box will be for 2 thing
1. enterly in a carving show and
2-- a carrying case for my carving tools. (unless my wife sees it and it =
turns into a jewelry box) ;>))
The blum type of hinges are to big. Of course, once in get it done I =
will find exactly the hinges I needed.
--=20
Richard,=20
Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=3Dthewizz
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste =
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think at this=20
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case. And=20
yes "T" the bottom will be carved. The box will be for 2 =
thing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. enterly in a carving show =
and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2-- a carrying case for my carving =
tools. (unless=20
my wife sees it and it turns into a jewelry box) ;>))</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The blum type of hinges are to big. Of =
course, once=20
in get it done I will find exactly the hinges I needed.<BR>-- =
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>Richard, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Richard L. Rombold<BR>WIZARD WOODWORKING<BR>489 N. 32nd.=20
St.<BR>Springfield, Or .97478</DIV>
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Richard,
Not sure this will work exactly as you're describing but this site =
http://www.suigenerisfurniture.co.uk/gpcdet.htm has somewhat of an =
example on how to incorporate the hinges into the carvings. Hiding the =
hinges may be more difficult than incorporating them into the design.
You may want to try carving wooden knuckle hinges into the stile of the =
door and the frame and then using the above example to make them part of =
the carving. From the work I saw on your web site, you certainly are =
capable of doing that.
Bob S.
"Richard L. Rombold" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. The front will have =
2 doors, half width and about 1 1/2" deep. All opening joints will be =
carved over to hide the joint.=20
What I am having trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the =
hinges. The doors will have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open. =
The swing will be about 135 deg. for each door. The carving will vary =
from 1/4" to 3/4" in depth.
I hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and it don't too much =
sense to me.
--=20
Richard,=20
Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=3Dthewizz
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and =
taste good with ketchup"
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not sure this will work exactly as =
you're=20
describing but this site <A=20
href=3D"http://www.suigenerisfurniture.co.uk/gpcdet.htm">http://www.suige=
nerisfurniture.co.uk/gpcdet.htm</A> =20
has somewhat of an example on how to incorporate the hinges into the =
carvings.=20
Hiding the hinges may be more difficult than incorporating them into the =
design.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may want to try carving wooden =
knuckle hinges=20
into the stile of the door and the frame and then using the above =
example to=20
make them part of the carving. From the work I saw on your web =
site, you=20
certainly are capable of doing that.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob S.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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will have=20
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hope=20
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me.<BR><BR>-- <BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Richard, </DIV>
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<DIV>Richard L. Rombold<BR>WIZARD WOODWORKING<BR>489 N. 32nd.=20
St.<BR>Springfield, Or .97478</DIV>
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Use a euro style hinge. They come types to fit both frameless and face
framed style doors.
Rockler has them as well as relatively inexpensive jigs for setting the
hinges and a 35 MM drill bit jig that works well.
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Richard L. Rombold" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. The front will have 2
doors, half width and about 1 1/2" deep. All opening joints will be carved
over to hide the joint.
What I am having trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the hinges.
The doors will have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open. The swing
will be about 135 deg. for each door. The carving will vary from 1/4" to
3/4" in depth.
I hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and it don't too much sense
to me.
--
Richard,
Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478
http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=thewizz
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste
good with ketchup"
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 16:10:05 -0800, Richard L. Rombold wrote:
>
> I am carving a chest. All 6 sides will be carved. The front will have 2
> doors, half width and about 1 1/2" deep. All opening joints will be
> carved over to hide the joint.
> What I am having trouble with is how to hinge the doors to hide the
> hinges. The doors will have to side out about 3/4" to 1" To swing open.
> The swing will be about 135 deg. for each door. The carving will vary from
> 1/4" to 3/4" in depth. I hope this makes sense to someone, I wrote it and
> it don't too much sense to me.
Use Euro-style hinges. you rout out a round mortise using a forstner bit
on the back of the door, and the hinges are completely hidden. You decide
whether you want inset or overlay doors, and the angle you want them to
open to, and select the hinges accordingly. Blum hinges are quality and
strong :)