This past weekend, I sealed my driveway. Anyone who's done this knows
that the sealer comes in 5 gallon buckets that need to be stirred. I
stir them with a drill and a heavy wire beater.
This go around I decided to use my cordless drills to do the stirring.
I know that this is not standard duty for these things, but figured
I'd see what each would do. I have a 14.4v DeWalt, a 9.6v Makita,.
and a 12v DeWalt right angle drill. The 14.4 and 9.6v drills are
approximately the same age, the 12v unit is quite new. All batteries
were fresh off their respective chargers.
First up was my trusty 14.4v DeWalt, which is usually my favorite
overall, based on the feel of the drill, the location of the reversing
switch, and the clutch operation. I went through TWO fully charged XR
packs and still had not completely stirred one container of sealer.
Next up was the 12v right angle, which didn't do all that much better.
Keep in mind that both of these drills were $150+ kits, including two
batteries and a charger.
The Makita, which was $79, including two batteries and a charger,
stirred TWO containers of sealer on EACH battery!
I'll admit that this was not a scientific test, and only one of each
model was used. However, based on the prices of the tools, I am
totally blown away by the results of using them in a high-stress
operation.
Of course, your mileage will vary...
Barry
B a r r y <[email protected]> wrote:
> This past weekend, I sealed my driveway. Anyone who's done this knows
> that the sealer comes in 5 gallon buckets that need to be stirred. I
> stir them with a drill and a heavy wire beater.
> This go around I decided to use my cordless drills to do the stirring.
> I know that this is not standard duty for these things, but figured
> I'd see what each would do. I have a 14.4v DeWalt, a 9.6v Makita,.
> and a 12v DeWalt right angle drill. The 14.4 and 9.6v drills are
> approximately the same age, the 12v unit is quite new. All batteries
> were fresh off their respective chargers.
> First up was my trusty 14.4v DeWalt, which is usually my favorite
> overall, based on the feel of the drill, the location of the reversing
> switch, and the clutch operation. I went through TWO fully charged XR
> packs and still had not completely stirred one container of sealer.
> Next up was the 12v right angle, which didn't do all that much better.
> Keep in mind that both of these drills were $150+ kits, including two
> batteries and a charger.
> The Makita, which was $79, including two batteries and a charger,
> stirred TWO containers of sealer on EACH battery!
> I'll admit that this was not a scientific test, and only one of each
> model was used. However, based on the prices of the tools, I am
> totally blown away by the results of using them in a high-stress
> operation.
> Of course, your mileage will vary...
> Barry
I've had a 9.6v Makita drill for 13 years and it's still going strong
on the original battery. These drills last forever and hold a charge
better than any other brand I've used. I like it so much I bought
a 2nd one last year for using in the house. In theory, the new ones
with NiMH batteries should even last longer than my old one with
NiCads.
Lance
Kool. I'll keep that in mind when my Sears 19.2v start to give out.
Thanks,
Wayne
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "NoOne N Particular" wrote in message
> > Just a question regarding the reconditioned batteries. Is there a
weight
> > difference? I would think that if they are that much bettter they must
> have
> > added more "stuff" into them making them heavier. If that is the case,
> what
> > does that do to the balance of the tool?
>
> Certainly not noticeable if there is.
>
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"Trent©" wrote in message
> Thanks for the link, Swingman. I might have them rebuild my
> Ryobi 9.6.
You're most welcome ... hope you find primecell.com as worthy of praise as I
have thus far.
Had both my DeWalt 18v's rebuilt by them for about the price of one new one
about a year ago. The old batteries would hold a charge for only a few hours
after they were less than a year old.
Today I changed to the re-built "spare" for the first time in about three
weeks of moderate use, and probably didn't need to do that for what I was
doing. Very noticeable, almost astounding, difference in both strength and
time between charges after the rebuild, but then DeWalt's batteries are
pretty crappy to start out with.
I believe you'll be surprised at what these guys can do by rebuilding one
... especially if you like the tool.
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Just a question regarding the reconditioned batteries. Is there a weight
difference? I would think that if they are that much bettter they must have
added more "stuff" into them making them heavier. If that is the case, what
does that do to the balance of the tool?
Thanks,
Wayne
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Trent©" wrote in message
>
> > Thanks for the link, Swingman. I might have them rebuild my
> > Ryobi 9.6.
>
> You're most welcome ... hope you find primecell.com as worthy of praise as
I
> have thus far.
>
> Had both my DeWalt 18v's rebuilt by them for about the price of one new
one
> about a year ago. The old batteries would hold a charge for only a few
hours
> after they were less than a year old.
>
> Today I changed to the re-built "spare" for the first time in about three
> weeks of moderate use, and probably didn't need to do that for what I was
> doing. Very noticeable, almost astounding, difference in both strength and
> time between charges after the rebuild, but then DeWalt's batteries are
> pretty crappy to start out with.
>
> I believe you'll be surprised at what these guys can do by rebuilding one
> ... especially if you like the tool.
>
> --
> www.e-woodshop.net
> Last update: 5/15/04
>
>
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:33:21 GMT, B a r r y
<[email protected]> wrote:
>This past weekend, I sealed my driveway. Anyone who's done this knows
>that the sealer comes in 5 gallon buckets that need to be stirred. I
>stir them with a drill and a heavy wire beater.
>
>This go around I decided to use my cordless drills to do the stirring.
>I know that this is not standard duty for these things, but figured
>I'd see what each would do. I have a 14.4v DeWalt, a 9.6v Makita,.
>and a 12v DeWalt right angle drill. The 14.4 and 9.6v drills are
>approximately the same age, the 12v unit is quite new. All batteries
>were fresh off their respective chargers.
>
>First up was my trusty 14.4v DeWalt, which is usually my favorite
>overall, based on the feel of the drill, the location of the reversing
>switch, and the clutch operation. I went through TWO fully charged XR
>packs and still had not completely stirred one container of sealer.
2-speed gear case? Low speed?
>Next up was the 12v right angle, which didn't do all that much better.
>Keep in mind that both of these drills were $150+ kits, including two
>batteries and a charger.
As Swingman said...its probably the quality of the batteries.
>The Makita, which was $79, including two batteries and a charger,
>stirred TWO containers of sealer on EACH battery!
Wanna sell that one? lol
>I'll admit that this was not a scientific test, and only one of each
>model was used. However, based on the prices of the tools, I am
>totally blown away by the results of using them in a high-stress
>operation.
Just curious...were they all 3/8?
We should start a database for the folks...best for driveway
sealers...best for paint (my Ryobi)...best for milk shakes... lol
I used to stir ThoroSeal tubs with a 1/2" and about a 4 ft. paddle.
Never ran out of electricity! :)
Have a nice week...
Trent©
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"B a r r y" wrote in message
> I'll admit that this was not a scientific test, and only one of each
> model was used. However, based on the prices of the tools, I am
> totally blown away by the results of using them in a high-stress
> operation.
>
> Of course, your mileage will vary...
I would guess, and it is my personal experience, that Makita builds better
batteries than most tool manufacturers, and your experience may actually be
more a function of that than the cost/brand of the tools themselves.
I would also be willing to bet that my reconditioned DeWalt 18v batteries
(primecell.com) would give my old Makita batteries a run for the money, but
the way they came from the DeWalt factory, they sucked.
That said, the best cordless drill I've ever owned was a Makita ... about 18
years ago. Can't tell you how many times it was dropped off a ladder, with
the drill flying one way and the battery another, to be united and just keep
on truckin'.
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"NoOne N Particular" wrote in message
> Just a question regarding the reconditioned batteries. Is there a weight
> difference? I would think that if they are that much bettter they must
have
> added more "stuff" into them making them heavier. If that is the case,
what
> does that do to the balance of the tool?
Certainly not noticeable if there is.
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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 22:23:20 -0400, Trent© <[email protected]>
wrote:
>2-speed gear case? Low speed?
All three drills were run on high speed of the 2 speed gearset.
>As Swingman said...its probably the quality of the batteries.
I agree. The main theme is that DeWalt could do better for the money.
I LOVE the DeWalt drill's feel. At twice the price of the Makita, the
least they could do is keep up. <G>
>Just curious...were they all 3/8?
Yes.
>I used to stir ThoroSeal tubs with a 1/2" and about a 4 ft. paddle.
>Never ran out of electricity! :)
Last time I sealed, I used my 20 year old 3/8" Craftsman VSR corded
drill. I thought it would be fun this time to see how the tailless
tools held up.
Barry
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:48:44 -0500, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I would also be willing to bet that my reconditioned DeWalt 18v batteries
>(primecell.com) would give my old Makita batteries a run for the money, but
>the way they came from the DeWalt factory, they sucked.
Thanks for the link, Swingman. I might have them rebuild my
Ryobi 9.6.
Its really tough makin' the decision...rebuild the battery...or
replace the drill.
I really like the drill...I've had it for over 5 years now. I use it
mainly for screws...it only has a single speed gear box. Its
lightweight...and it has a nice balance.
I can get an 18 volt...new...2 batteries and charger...2 year
warranty...with a set of drill bits included...for $22...from a
reputable local store.
I know I should dump the Ryobi. I can't even get the battery any
more...unless I special order it. And, as was mentioned on the
primecell site...any battery I buy might have been sitting on the
shelf for quite a while.
Maybe not logical, but I might spend the money on the battery rebuild.
Have a nice week...
Trent©
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