The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
appreciated. Thanks.
john
> >>>>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
> >>>>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
> >>>>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun.
See if the home depot near you has the Husky 1gal compressor +
nailer/stapler combo pack for $50. http://tinyurl.com/evh5s
I found this deal after calling around to a few local HD's. The
compressor probably isn't good for much more than driving brads, and
wouldn't keep up if you want to fire more than about 10-12 brads in
rapid succession, but for light home use I think it's great. Very
lightweight to carry around. Fairly noisy, though. The compressor is
actually made by Campbell Hausfeld, model FP2028 (exactly the same
thing, different color), which is usually sold for $60 without the
stapler/nailer. Stapler/18ga brad nailer is labelled by Husky; don't
know manufacturer.
Hope this helps,
Andy
If you'll pay the shipping I'll give you an electric nail gun and
a few boxes of nails but then you'll be out of the shipping money
before you realize what a piece of crap it is.
Nail starter is all it's good for.........and not that great at
that.
Get a combo air nailer at you local giant hardware store. There
will probably be a holiday special and if you wait until after the
holidays you might get a clearance price.
Robert
jk wrote:
> The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
> must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
> thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
> used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
> where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
> answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
> appreciated. Thanks.
> john
OK, I give, uncle, no mas, whatever.....Electric = Junk. I accept this
and will move on. My search will be for an air driven, finish/brad
nailer. I do appreciate all of the inputs. Its good to be back and
active in the "woods" working. Itching to get going on next project.
Gonna do a
"Mission Style" sofa, lower the back and sides a bit, use the left over
mahogany I have from deck railing project. Speaking of which I do have
another off topic question. I have collected ten 5 inch magnifying
lenses, the kind that go in work bench inspection lights. At work, the
light breaks, they throw the whole thing out. I salvaged the lenses.
Looking for ideas on how to incorporate them into a piece of furniture,
perhaps into the back or sides, or maybe build a piece of sculpture
with them. Who knows. There's something there....just haven't got "it"
yet. Ideas would be appreciated. Thanks gang.
John K.
On Oct 8, 8:36 pm, "jk" <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, I give, uncle, no mas, whatever.....Electric = Junk. I accept this
> and will move on. My search will be for an air driven, finish/brad
> nailer. I do appreciate all of the inputs. Its good to be back and
> active in the "woods" working. Itching to get going on next project.
> Gonna do a
> "Mission Style" sofa, lower the back and sides a bit, use the left over
> mahogany I have from deck railing project. Speaking of which I do have
> another off topic question. I have collected ten 5 inch magnifying
> lenses, the kind that go in work bench inspection lights. At work, the
> light breaks, they throw the whole thing out. I salvaged the lenses.
> Looking for ideas on how to incorporate them into a piece of furniture,
> perhaps into the back or sides, or maybe build a piece of sculpture
> with them. Who knows. There's something there....just haven't got "it"
> yet. Ideas would be appreciated. Thanks gang.
> John K.
I assume you're not talking about putting lenses in your mission style
sofa - very different styles in my opinion. Maybe you could embed them
in a clock or lamp base, or have them somehow function as corners of a
picture frame. Or if you can drill little holes in them, make a
windchime/light catcher to hang outside. Then I guess you'd have to
watch out for accidently burning holes in your porch if the sun hits
the lenses just right - never mind.
I'd recommend starting a new thread for this question. Probably won't
be noticed much at the end of a discussion on a completely different
topic.
Good luck,
Andy
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:01:13 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have never known anyone that had an electric to be happy with it,
>including me.
No compressor?
I know some finish guys with cordless DeWalt finish nailers, and
Paslode guns that the love them.
As far as the "electric" nailers go, I'm with CW.
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:28:47 -0500, Tom Kendrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>16-guage finish nailer is what you want.
That makes a perfectly LOUSY brad nailer. A finish nailer is not a brad nailer.
>Getting a name-brand model
>that is refurbished can save some bucks. Porter-Cable is a good place
>to start.
>http://portercable.cpoworkshop.com/reconditioned_tools/nailers_and_staplers/finish_nailers/
>Air compressor - 4 gallon, 2 h.p. electric oil-lubrication, weighs
>about 60 pounds. Plus 50-75 feet of air hose.
>
>On 8 Oct 2006 11:33:14 -0700, "jk" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
>>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
>>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
>>used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
>>where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
>>answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
>>appreciated. Thanks.
>>john
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:31:33 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:28:47 -0500, Tom Kendrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>16-guage finish nailer is what you want.
>
>That makes a perfectly LOUSY brad nailer. A finish nailer is not a brad nailer.
I agree - two different animals.
My Brad nailer is from Grizzly and I am very pleased with it
>
>>Getting a name-brand model
>>that is refurbished can save some bucks. Porter-Cable is a good place
>>to start.
>>http://portercable.cpoworkshop.com/reconditioned_tools/nailers_and_staplers/finish_nailers/
>>Air compressor - 4 gallon, 2 h.p. electric oil-lubrication, weighs
>>about 60 pounds. Plus 50-75 feet of air hose.
>>
>>On 8 Oct 2006 11:33:14 -0700, "jk" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
>>>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
>>>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
>>>used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
>>>where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
>>>answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
>>>appreciated. Thanks.
>>>john
On 8 Oct 2006 11:33:14 -0700, "jk" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
>used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
>where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
>answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
>john
Electric nailers don't work well. You're better off with a hammer,
nails and a nailset.
Gosh-- If I was in your shoes, I would ask about a budget size--
then I would go with the larges size "lub-a-dub" oil lube air
compressor with in that budget.
Maybe a 33 gal tank if I could. I just hate the loud noise of your
basic oil-less compressors at Sears. After that, there are a lot of
choices for brad nailer and nail guns which revolved around
your expected work load will be. None of the nailers that run off
compressed air cost a lot, provided your work load is home use.
Air compressor is really useful around the house and cars also.
(not to mention beach toys, and backyard pool stuff.)
Yeah, I know, you want an electric nailer, but gosh it really is better
to get an air compressor and nail guns.
Phil
"jk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
> must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
> thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
> used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
> where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
> answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
> appreciated. Thanks.
> john
>
I have never known anyone that had an electric to be happy with it,
including me. They don't have enough power to sink a nail in anything much
denser than balsa wood. They work well as a nail starter. After starting it
with the gun, finish up with a hammer and nail set.
"jk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
> must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
> thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
> used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
> where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
> answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
> appreciated. Thanks.
> john
>
16-guage finish nailer is what you want. Getting a name-brand model
that is refurbished can save some bucks. Porter-Cable is a good place
to start.
http://portercable.cpoworkshop.com/reconditioned_tools/nailers_and_staplers/finish_nailers/
Air compressor - 4 gallon, 2 h.p. electric oil-lubrication, weighs
about 60 pounds. Plus 50-75 feet of air hose.
On 8 Oct 2006 11:33:14 -0700, "jk" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
>used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
>where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
>answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
>john
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:43:26 -0400, Joe Bemier <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:31:33 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 15:28:47 -0500, Tom Kendrick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>16-guage finish nailer is what you want.
>>
>>That makes a perfectly LOUSY brad nailer. A finish nailer is not a brad nailer.
>
>I agree - two different animals.
>My Brad nailer is from Grizzly and I am very pleased with it
I have the Porter Cable and it works well but I have a lady friend who has a
much smaller brad nailer (I forgot the brand) and she finds the small size much
better for small hobby work like trinket shelves, doll furniture, and bird
houses.
>>
>>>Getting a name-brand model
>>>that is refurbished can save some bucks. Porter-Cable is a good place
>>>to start.
>>>http://portercable.cpoworkshop.com/reconditioned_tools/nailers_and_staplers/finish_nailers/
>>>Air compressor - 4 gallon, 2 h.p. electric oil-lubrication, weighs
>>>about 60 pounds. Plus 50-75 feet of air hose.
>>>
>>>On 8 Oct 2006 11:33:14 -0700, "jk" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
>>>>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
>>>>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
>>>>used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
>>>>where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
>>>>answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
>>>>appreciated. Thanks.
>>>>john
In article <[email protected]>,
jk <[email protected]> wrote:
>The "Office of Management and Budget" (OMB), a.k.a. the wife, she who
>must be obeyed, etc., asked me what I want for Christmas. So, I am
>thinking an electric brad nailer or nail gun. Something that can be
>used for finish work, light duty, nothing too elaborate. Don't know
>where to start researching. If there are questions I should be
>answering/asking myself, what are they? Your advice would be
>appreciated. Thanks.
>john
>
There (at least) 3 different types of electric nailers available. The
cheap ones, that you are likely to find for under $50 - 75 or so, are
largely not satisfactory. I'm speaking of models like the Arrow ET100
and similar tools. These use a simple solenoid and plunger and run on
120V house current. They can be used for things like nailing a plywood
back on a case, but not much more. The must be VERY firmly held down
and even then often do not set the brad flush or below the surface.
And they often mar the work as well, not a good combination of
characteristics.
The other type I have tried are the DeWalt rechargeable nailers.
These do work well, but are quite expensive. They use a flywheel
to build up the power to drive the nail. I tried the 16 ga out at a
store and was impressed. It uses their regular 18V batteries and
charger. Unfortunately, for what it costs, you could by a cheap
pneumatic nailer AND a cheap compressor.
Porter Cable also makes a rechargeable nailer. There model uses a
small compressor built into the tool. I've never tried one or even
seen one other than in ads, so I can't say how well it works. It may
not even be available anymore since B&D bought PC & Delta. It's cost
is in the same range as the DeWalt.
THen there are Paslode type nailers that use a gas charge in a
cylinder. I'm not really at all familiar with these, but I believe
they are more of a framing tool.
IMHO the best nailers and brad guns are the pneumatics. Why not
try to convince your benefactor to get you a small compressor (but not
TOO small!) The cheap brad nailers from Harbor Freight (Often on sale
for $10 or 20 depending on model & capacity) work just fine for home
use. And the compressor can be used for lots of other things.
--
No dumb questions, just dumb answers.
Larry Wasserman - Baltimore, Maryland - [email protected]