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tmbg

06/01/2004 3:32 AM

router setup ideas

I'm thinking about building a router table, but I've got some issues with
it. I've sorta been dropped into the position of running a small
cabinetshop, and I'm trying to adapt some things to my own desires. We
have a big 1/2" Hitachi router that's mounted in a little table thingy
that sets in a recess in one of the workbenches, next to a miter saw, and
it's got dust collection built into the fence and underneath where the
router mounts, but the fence is screwed down (not movable), and it's a
VERY small table (like 10x18"), and I can't figure out how to change the
router's depth. I don't know if it's frozen or if I'm just missing
something or what, but trying to do anything with the router 'table'
drives me absolutely nuts.

SOO, I'm kicking around the idea of making a table, two sheets of 3/4
MDF with formica laminate top and either formica edges or solid-wood
edges, not sure which. I have some 3/8" or 1/2" plexiglas, would that
work for an insert until I can get some phenolic? Should I try to build
dust collection into it? The spot I've picked out to put it already has a
capped off 3" hose drop coming off a main duct there, but no gate.
Haven't thought yet what I'm gonna do about a base, but I think we've got
some pressure treated lumber kicking around, probably would suffice.

Anyone know anything about Hitachi routers, and how to make them behave?


This topic has 7 replies

Bn

Bridger

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

05/01/2004 11:10 PM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 05:34:42 GMT, tmbg <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> if you make the edges nice and square to the top and parallel to each
>> other and laminate them you can make a sled that straddles the whole table
>> top. very useful.
>>
>
>not sure I follow you, could you elaborate?



kind of a poor man's slide table. I'll post a quick diagram to ABPW. I
built a router table top from a cheap melamine cabinet door. it worked
fine except it didn't have miter slots and the material was too thin
to add them. the edges however were nice and parallel, so I used them
as index surfaces. essentially a second top floating over the first,
guided by a couple of strips of wood that fit snugly ot the outside of
the table top. fences and jigs can be attached to the upper, sliding
surface, and a coat of wax keeps everything moving smoothly


damn, what a lousy description. holler if you want me to take some
pictures of the actual setup.

Bn

Bridger

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

05/01/2004 10:24 PM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:32:39 GMT, tmbg <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm thinking about building a router table, but I've got some issues with
>it. I've sorta been dropped into the position of running a small
>cabinetshop, and I'm trying to adapt some things to my own desires. We
>have a big 1/2" Hitachi router that's mounted in a little table thingy
>that sets in a recess in one of the workbenches, next to a miter saw, and
>it's got dust collection built into the fence and underneath where the
>router mounts, but the fence is screwed down (not movable), and it's a
>VERY small table (like 10x18"), and I can't figure out how to change the
>router's depth.

you can download manuals from hitachi:
http://tinyurl.com/2kl5w





> I don't know if it's frozen or if I'm just missing
>something or what, but trying to do anything with the router 'table'
>drives me absolutely nuts.
>
>SOO, I'm kicking around the idea of making a table, two sheets of 3/4
>MDF with formica laminate top and either formica edges or solid-wood
>edges, not sure which.

if you make the edges nice and square to the top and parallel to each
other and laminate them you can make a sled that straddles the whole
table top. very useful.


> I have some 3/8" or 1/2" plexiglas, would that
>work for an insert until I can get some phenolic?

yes


> Should I try to build dust collection into it?

yes


>The spot I've picked out to put it already has a
>capped off 3" hose drop coming off a main duct there, but no gate.
>Haven't thought yet what I'm gonna do about a base, but I think we've got
>some pressure treated lumber kicking around, probably would suffice.

it's a cabinet shop. make it a cabinet. doesn't have to be fancy.



>
>Anyone know anything about Hitachi routers, and how to make them behave?



I have PC and freud. sorry...

Jy

JAW

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

06/01/2004 12:55 PM

tmbg wrote:

> I'm thinking about building a router table, but I've got some issues with
> it. I've sorta been dropped into the position of running a small
> cabinetshop, and I'm trying to adapt some things to my own desires. We
> have a big 1/2" Hitachi router that's mounted in a little table thingy
> that sets in a recess in one of the workbenches, next to a miter saw, and
> it's got dust collection built into the fence and underneath where the
> router mounts, but the fence is screwed down (not movable), and it's a
> VERY small table (like 10x18"), and I can't figure out how to change the
> router's depth. I don't know if it's frozen or if I'm just missing
> something or what, but trying to do anything with the router 'table'
> drives me absolutely nuts.
>
> SOO, I'm kicking around the idea of making a table, two sheets of 3/4
> MDF with formica laminate top and either formica edges or solid-wood
> edges, not sure which. I have some 3/8" or 1/2" plexiglas, would that
> work for an insert until I can get some phenolic? Should I try to build
> dust collection into it? The spot I've picked out to put it already has a
> capped off 3" hose drop coming off a main duct there, but no gate.
> Haven't thought yet what I'm gonna do about a base, but I think we've got
> some pressure treated lumber kicking around, probably would suffice.
>
> Anyone know anything about Hitachi routers, and how to make them behave?
>
>
I have an Hitachi 12MV. Been using it for about 1 year. I only use it
for my router table (no freehand with this one, I have another router
for that). I take it out of the table about once every 3 months and give
it a good cleaning, especially around the plunger mechanism, since the
sawdust tends to collect in this area. I do not consider this a 'issue'
with this router, because periodic maintenance should be a integral part
of any woodworking shop.

HTH
Jerry

Bn

Bridger

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

05/01/2004 11:46 PM

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 06:26:33 GMT, tmbg <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>> kind of a poor man's slide table. I'll post a quick diagram to ABPW. I
>> built a router table top from a cheap melamine cabinet door. it worked
>> fine except it didn't have miter slots and the material was too thin to
>> add them. the edges however were nice and parallel, so I used them as
>> index surfaces. essentially a second top floating over the first, guided
>> by a couple of strips of wood that fit snugly ot the outside of the table
>> top. fences and jigs can be attached to the upper, sliding surface, and a
>> coat of wax keeps everything moving smoothly
>>
>>
>> damn, what a lousy description. holler if you want me to take some
>> pictures of the actual setup.




>
>No, I think I follow what you're saying. Once I get the two MDF panels
>glued together, would crosscutting both sides with a crosscut sled on the
>TS produce parallel enough edges?

probably, although you may want a longer table than my crosscut sled
would make. I'd probably just make 2 careful cuts using the rip fence.



> Is it a bad idea to run MDF on the
>jointer?

yes, unless you have carbide blades.




>
>Just curious... :)


curiousity killed the cat....

tt

tmbg

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

06/01/2004 5:34 AM


> if you make the edges nice and square to the top and parallel to each
> other and laminate them you can make a sled that straddles the whole table
> top. very useful.
>

not sure I follow you, could you elaborate?

tt

tmbg

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

06/01/2004 6:26 AM


> kind of a poor man's slide table. I'll post a quick diagram to ABPW. I
> built a router table top from a cheap melamine cabinet door. it worked
> fine except it didn't have miter slots and the material was too thin to
> add them. the edges however were nice and parallel, so I used them as
> index surfaces. essentially a second top floating over the first, guided
> by a couple of strips of wood that fit snugly ot the outside of the table
> top. fences and jigs can be attached to the upper, sliding surface, and a
> coat of wax keeps everything moving smoothly
>
>
> damn, what a lousy description. holler if you want me to take some
> pictures of the actual setup.

No, I think I follow what you're saying. Once I get the two MDF panels
glued together, would crosscutting both sides with a crosscut sled on the
TS produce parallel enough edges? Is it a bad idea to run MDF on the
jointer?

Just curious... :)

tt

tmbg

in reply to tmbg on 06/01/2004 3:32 AM

06/01/2004 6:49 PM


> I have an Hitachi 12MV. Been using it for about 1 year. I only use it for
> my router table (no freehand with this one, I have another router for
> that). I take it out of the table about once every 3 months and give it a
> good cleaning, especially around the plunger mechanism, since the sawdust
> tends to collect in this area. I do not consider this a 'issue' with this
> router, because periodic maintenance should be a integral part of any
> woodworking shop.
>
> HTH
> Jerry

Ours is a TR-12, I took it apart last night, cleaned it out really good
and oiled the tubes, and it still won't slide worth a crap. I'm not sure
what's causing it to hang up, but it's very frustrating. I can get it to
the right depth, but it takes a little persuasion with a rubber mallet >:O

On a happier note, I got a plexiglas insert made up that fits the TR-12,
just gotta find some proper screws. About to go trim up the top and
laminate it.


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