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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

02/12/2003 6:38 PM

Domestic exotics

What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly, osage
orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?

Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin




















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JT

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

03/12/2003 5:17 AM

Tue, Dec 2, 2003, 6:38pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Charlie=A0Self)
What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly,
osage orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!

Well, one definition of exotic is:
2: strikingly strange or unusual;

Given that, I'd say maybe a burl, of whatever wood.

Myself, I kinda like hickory.

JOAT
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Tom Watson

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 9:22 PM

On 02 Dec 2003 18:38:59 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly, osage
>orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?

Ash, Swamp ** Fraxinus spp.
Aspen ** Populus spp.
Butternut ** Juglans Cinerea
Hackberry ** Celtis occidentalis
Lime** Tilia americana
Pecan ** Carya illinoensis
Sap Gum ** Liquidambar styraciflua
Sugarberry ** Celtis laevigata
Willow ** Salix nigra
Carpinus caroliniana American hornbeam
Avicennia germinans black mangrove
Rhamnus betulifolia birchleaf buckthorn
Conocarpus erectus Combretaceae Buttonwood
Catalpa bignonioides
Giant Chinkapin
Kentucky Coffeetree
Arbutus arizonica Arizona madrone
Mountain Laurel
Amelanchier arborea Allegheny serviceberry
Silverbell
Sourwood
Sumac
Tanoak
Tree-of-Heaven
Tupelo
Witch Hazel
Yellow Buckeye


Regards, Tom
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[email protected] (J Pagona aka Y.B.)

in reply to Tom Watson on 02/12/2003 9:22 PM

02/12/2003 11:23 PM

Isn't one of the lacewood species native to the US?

Besides that, and the others already mentioned, I'd add camphor and live oak.
There are native mahogany trees and cuban mahoganies in South Florida. There
are a number of woods that are quite stunning when spalted including maple,
camphor and magnolia. I also like ambrosia maple, which can often be gotten
significantly cheaper than plain maple.

David

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Alan McClure

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

03/12/2003 12:55 PM



Charlie Self wrote:

> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly, osage
> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
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> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!
>
> Charlie Self
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> "I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
> believe it." George Carlin
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Smokewood
Pieces are small, greenish yellow with brown stripes.
I've only had one piece big enough to make a pen.
Bigger pieces may exist, I've never seen the tree (bush?)
I've got two pieces left that might make an unmatched pen.
Wish I could find more!

ARM


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LRod

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 7:19 PM

On 02 Dec 2003 18:38:59 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood?

Charlie!

I'm surprised at a wordsmith like you committing this oxymoron.
Cracked me up.

In botanical terms,

Exotic=not native
Domestic=native


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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to LRod on 02/12/2003 7:19 PM

02/12/2003 8:48 PM

LRod writes:

>In botanical terms,
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>Exotic=not native
>Domestic=native

In dictionary terms, definition #1 is strikingly different, scientific jargon
notwithstanding.


Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















JT

in reply to LRod on 02/12/2003 7:19 PM

02/12/2003 6:11 PM

Tue, Dec 2, 2003, 7:19pm (EST+5) [email protected] (LRod) says:
<snip> Exotic=not native
Domestic=native

Do you figure that means the dancers in the place down the road
aren't from around here?

JOAT
People think that professional soldiers think a lot about fighting, but
serious professional soldiers think a lot more about food and a warm
place to sleep, because these are two things that are generally hard to
get, whereas fighting tends to turn up all the time.
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[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to LRod on 02/12/2003 7:19 PM

03/12/2003 9:12 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
T. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Tue, Dec 2, 2003, 7:19pm (EST+5) [email protected] (LRod) says:
><snip> Exotic=not native
>Domestic=native
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> Do you figure that means the dancers in the place down the road
>aren't from around here?

The 'outstanding assets' are frequently imported, not grown locally.

LL

LRod

in reply to LRod on 02/12/2003 7:19 PM

02/12/2003 10:15 PM

On 02 Dec 2003 20:48:59 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>LRod writes:
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>>Exotic=not native
>>Domestic=native
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>In dictionary terms, definition #1 is strikingly different, scientific jargon
>notwithstanding.

Uh, actually, I checked first. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary
(http://www.m-w.com) has as its first definition, "non-native."

My version of "domestic" is further down the list, however.

Anyway, I was just pinging on you.


LRod

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Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

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Gerald Ross

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 3:27 PM

My vote would be for chinaberry. It has a great brown & tan coloring.
Somewhat porous looks good in a box or turned piece.

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Mario Nunez

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 3:26 PM

Charlie:

It took you to get me out of lurk mode. I vote for sassafras. Great
wood to work with, pretty grain and color, and when you do work with it
you're in a cloud of that sassafras smell. Very enjoyable stuff.

Cheers.

Mario

Charlie Self wrote:

>What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly, osage orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
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>Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!
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>Charlie Self
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>believe it." George Carlin
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"Rob Stokes"

in reply to Mario Nunez on 02/12/2003 3:26 PM

02/12/2003 9:50 PM

No ones mentioned mesquite...never worked with it but I sure intend to..

Rob

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[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Rob Stokes" on 02/12/2003 9:50 PM

02/12/2003 10:52 PM

Rob responds:

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I've done very little with it. Easier to find in Texas than in WV or VA. But it
was on my original list, and is a wood I don't think can be dropped from the
list. Have you tried osage orange?

Charlie Self

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believe it." George Carlin



















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Michael Burton

in reply to "Rob Stokes" on 02/12/2003 9:50 PM

12/12/2003 4:05 AM

Charlie Self wrote in
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> or VA. But it was on my original list, and is a wood I don't think
> can be dropped from the list. Have you tried osage orange?
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> Charlie Self


I have several hundred bf of real nice Mesquite, 4/4 & 8/4 if you
are interested. Price runs from 8.00 to 12.50/bf depending on grade &
14.00 if you want it burly.
It works easy and is real hard & finishes out to a real nice color.
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Llano, TX

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"David Eisan"

in reply to "Rob Stokes" on 02/12/2003 9:50 PM

03/12/2003 4:31 PM

Charlie,

> Have you tried osage orange?

I have a 2" thick, 8-12" wide (tapered live edge), 8' long, 20 year air
dried Osage Orange board I have been trying to figure out what to do with. I
picked it up for nothing as part of a larger lot at auction back in 2000. I
cut 6" off the one end that had a check in it and turned a few pens. I don't
know what I will do with the board, it may turn into a sofa table, or I may
chop it up into parts for the little boxes I want to make (see other
thread).

David.




cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Mario Nunez on 02/12/2003 3:26 PM

02/12/2003 8:50 PM

Mario Nunez writes:

> It took you to get me out of lurk mode. I vote for sassafras. Great
>wood to work with, pretty grain and color, and when you do work with it
>you're in a cloud of that sassafras smell. Very enjoyable stuff.
>

I'll pick some up tomorrow. I've used tiny pieces of it, but never whole
boards. I think maybe 3-4 bf will give me an idea, and it's not expensive (a
nice factor in its favor: I really, really prefer 3-1/2 bucks a bf to the 27
bucks of koa).

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















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Steve Turner

in reply to Mario Nunez on 02/12/2003 3:26 PM

03/12/2003 4:52 AM

Rob Stokes wrote:

> No ones mentioned mesquite...never worked with it but I sure intend to..

You'd love it. It's very hard, but cuts, carves, and sands quite easily. The
grain patterns have a mind of their own, and these can give you some trouble if
you're partial to hand planes, but boy are they beautiful when finished out!
If you sand the surface down to a near-polish with grits up through 600 (or
higher) and put a nice danish oil finish on it, it's breathtaking. The wood
starts off as a medium light cocoa brown color, but over time (about a year, if
that long) it darkens up to a rich, deep, reddish brown. Very nice.

And man is it stable! We've slabbed up green logs to 4/4, stacked them up
willy-nilly in some corner of the shop, left them to dry with no special care
and they stay flat as a pancake! The boards don't cause any trouble when you
rip them either; they stay the same shape and don't torque off in different
directions with pent-up internal stress, and even if they haven't completely
dried inside they'll still keep their shape. About the only downside is that
it's difficult to get large pieces of good clear wood. The trees don't usually
get very big, and they tend to grow with lots of internal splits.

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Luigi Zanasi

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 12:46 PM

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:19:02 +0000, LRod <[email protected]> scribbled:

>On 02 Dec 2003 18:38:59 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
>wrote:
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>>What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood?
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>Charlie!
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>I'm surprised at a wordsmith like you committing this oxymoron.
>Cracked me up.
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>Exotic=not native
>Domestic=native

From the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary:

Exotic: adjective 1. introduced from abroad ...
2. Strikingly different, attractively unusual; glamorous. Formerly,
outlandish, uncouth.

but also lower down: noun . . . 3. a striptease dancer.
:-)

Luigi
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Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 11:40 PM

Tom Watson wrote:
complete and total snippage of the "lesser used" woods...


I'll add mulberry to that list if I may. Trouble is it
starts out real nice looking but darkens a wee
too much over time.

UA100

Sd

Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 11:51 PM

Tom Watson wrote:

> Sumac

Sumac???

I find it hard to believe you can make anything out of that stuff. Dries
like a sunflower stalk; all pith, and no wood.

I let one grow because I think sumac trees look sort of cool.

It grew 12' in the first year, then it sprouted suckers.

Now I'm trying to kill about 60 sumac weeds, and they won't die, no matter
how many miles of roots I dig up.

If Charlie wants some of this shit, I can hook him up.

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Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 11:51 PM

Charlie Self wrote:

> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly,
> osage orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
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> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!

Oleander. I hear it's beautiful. Toxic as hell though.

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"David Babcock"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

04/12/2003 3:30 AM

I've been hoarding some wormy chestnut for a special project, but try to
find some live trees. I would also include Ash, Tiger Maple, Hickory, Elm.

Dave

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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"Myxylplyk"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 7:21 PM

I'm fairly partial to figured black walnut, (burl if available in the quantity you need),
flame cherry, tiger maple.
What are you planning on making?

Myx

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly, osage
> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
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in reply to "Myxylplyk" on 02/12/2003 7:21 PM

02/12/2003 11:52 PM

On 02 Dec 2003 19:51:00 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>Myxylplyk notes:
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>>I'm fairly partial to figured black walnut, (burl if available in the
>>quantity you need),
>>flame cherry, tiger maple.
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>projects, though they're attractive as partial parts.
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For small boxes you could use fruitwoods from retired orchard trees,
like apple and pear. Applewood is very nice, but usually comes in
smallish logs with lots of bend and twist. But you could get out small
pieces.


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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Myxylplyk" on 02/12/2003 7:21 PM

02/12/2003 7:51 PM

Myxylplyk notes:

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>I'm fairly partial to figured black walnut, (burl if available in the
>quantity you need),
>flame cherry, tiger maple.

Yeah, but...I've never been partial to highly figured woods as major parts of
projects, though they're attractive as partial parts.

Basically, current aim is some small boxes.

Charlie Self

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believe it." George Carlin



















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"Bill Orr"

in reply to "Myxylplyk" on 02/12/2003 7:21 PM

02/12/2003 8:24 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> projects, though they're attractive as partial parts.
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> "I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
> believe it." George Carlin



Hi Charlie

I recently built a box out of Cypress. The grain is beautiful when stained to
bring out the grain. I'll send you a picture if you like. Reply to my in-box

Bill

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Bill Orr" on 02/12/2003 8:24 PM

02/12/2003 8:46 PM

Bill Orr writes:

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>I recently built a box out of Cypress. The grain is beautiful when stained
>to
>bring out the grain. I'll send you a picture if you like. Reply to my
>in-box

I've also got some cypress boards here: it's great for some things, but it's
not a hardwood. Though I forgot to specify in my original post, I'd like the
woods to be hardwoods, if at all possible.

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















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"Mike Schwarz"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 3:55 PM

I haven't seen these on the list... Box elder burl or 1/4 sawn black locust.

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly,
osage
> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
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in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 5:29 PM

[email protected] wrote:
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> Bridger
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Sounds like a maid that doubles as a stripper.

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"Jon Endres, PE"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 8:35 PM

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly,
osage
> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
>
> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!
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> Charlie Self

Tough question, but it depends on your definition of exotic. To many, an
exotic represents something that may be difficult to get, expensive, and/or
foreign. For instance - I can't easily get mesquite or alder in the great
white northeast, so to me, they're somewhat exotic. You could consider
something like purpleheart or jatoba an exotic, but in the places they're
from, they seem to be as common as maple or poplar is to us. Besides, I
have plenty of the stuff in my shop, something I can't say about many
domestic species.

True US domestic exotics might be any of the curlies - maple, cherry,
redwood, ash, oak, etc. I have some small pieces of curly ash that I'm
afraid to use, they have more value to me than any chunk of padauk or
cocobolo. Also, trees that are either rare or have a very limited yield.
My favorites include hophornbeam, honey locust, lilac, apple and anything
spalted. Most of us consider koa an exotic, even though it's technically a
US species.

Not sure I answered your question...

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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/12/2003 8:35 PM

02/12/2003 8:53 PM

Jon Endres responds:

>True US domestic exotics might be any of the curlies - maple, cherry,
>redwood, ash, oak, etc. I have some small pieces of curly ash that I'm
>afraid to use, they have more value to me than any chunk of padauk or
>cocobolo. Also, trees that are either rare or have a very limited yield.
>My favorites include hophornbeam, honey locust, lilac, apple and anything
>spalted. Most of us consider koa an exotic, even though it's technically a
>US species.

I'd love to get hold of chinaberry, hophornbeam, honey locust or apple. Lilac
doesn't do much for me, probably related to the fact that the basic of most
lilacs are ideal breeding places for yellowjackets, my most hated
insect/animal.

But where? Are these woods so localized they're not useful to most of us? I can
get hold of good old fashioned post (black) locust down in Virginia almost any
time, though in small sizes. Honey locust is a whole 'nother thing. Apple is a
hit and miss proposition...you almost have to catch an orchard changing over,
uprooting trees, and grab before burn day.


Charlie Self

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believe it." George Carlin



















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Steve Turner

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/12/2003 8:35 PM

03/12/2003 5:06 AM

Charlie Self wrote:
> I'd love to get hold of chinaberry, hophornbeam, honey locust or apple. Lilac
> doesn't do much for me, probably related to the fact that the basic of most
> lilacs are ideal breeding places for yellowjackets, my most hated
> insect/animal.
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> get hold of good old fashioned post (black) locust down in Virginia almost any
> time, though in small sizes. Honey locust is a whole 'nother thing. Apple is a
> hit and miss proposition...you almost have to catch an orchard changing over,
> uprooting trees, and grab before burn day.

Honey Locust grows all over the place in Missouri (the state where I grew up).
It loves the low-lying meadows and creek bottoms, down where the oaks start
to thin out. I doubt that you'd find any of it being cut at the local mills
though; you'd almost have to find someone who could go out and fetch some for
you and have it milled.

Chinaberry is very common down here in Austin, but I don't know anybody who
deals in it.

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in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/12/2003 8:35 PM

02/12/2003 8:47 PM

I've got some pearwood I recently re-sawed that, while pretty by itself, has
some spalting that makes it striking.

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"Charlie Self" <wrote in message

> I'd love to get hold of chinaberry, hophornbeam, honey locust or apple.
Lilac
> doesn't do much for me, probably related to the fact that the basic of
most
> lilacs are ideal breeding places for yellowjackets, my most hated
> insect/animal.
>
> But where? Are these woods so localized they're not useful to most of us?
I can
> get hold of good old fashioned post (black) locust down in Virginia almost
any
> time, though in small sizes. Honey locust is a whole 'nother thing. Apple
is a
> hit and miss proposition...you almost have to catch an orchard changing
over,
> uprooting trees, and grab before burn day.

r

in reply to "Jon Endres, PE" on 02/12/2003 8:35 PM

02/12/2003 9:33 PM

Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:

> But where? Are these woods so localized they're not useful to most of us? I can
> get hold of good old fashioned post (black) locust down in Virginia almost any
> time, though in small sizes. Honey locust is a whole 'nother thing. Apple is a

I was going to suggest black locust, but figured you had already
considered it. It's not really exotic, but pretty rarely used
as boards. There is at least one company down in North Carolina
that mills black locust into flooring. From what I know of locust
wood that should be some long lasting flooring. I'm thinking
about using it when I tear up the carpet and put in hardwood
in my family room.

When I was heating with wood 20 years ago I learned that green
locust was easy to cut with a chainsaw, but almost impossible
to split. Well cured it was just the opposite, you could split
it fairly easily, but it would dull a chainsaw trying to cut it.
It burns nice when it's good and dry, terrible when it's green.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.


CP

"Caractacus Potts"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 7:06 PM


"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious,
holly, osage
> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
>
> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of
locating!
>
> Charlie Self

Quartersawn sycamore, Koa (on a technicality), chestnut

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Caractacus Potts" on 02/12/2003 7:06 PM

02/12/2003 7:49 PM

Caractacus Potts responds:

>> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious,
>holly, osage
>> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
>>
>> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of
>locating!
>>
>> Charlie Self
>
>Quartersawn sycamore, Koa (on a technicality), chestnut
>
I've got a few dozen board feet of QS sycamore. It's great. Koa I've been kind
of avoiding, because I'm not sure about availability...it is an endangered
species in Hawaii now, though it is being plantation grown. Chestnut...ah,
dreams? I could zip over to the Blue Ridge Parkway and swipe some fence rails,
I guess...

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















jJ

in reply to "Caractacus Potts" on 02/12/2003 7:06 PM

06/12/2003 5:57 PM

Speaking of chestnut, if anyone is in the Pittsburgh, PA area,
Construction Junction, a non-profit selling used and surplus building
materials (<http://www.constructionjunction.org/>), has stacks wormy
chestnut 2x10s or 12s that came from a warehouse that was recently
torn down. $0.75/ft...

-Jeff

> [email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in message
<snip>
> Chestnut...ah, dreams? I could zip over to the Blue Ridge Parkway and
> swipe some fence rails, I guess...
>
> Charlie Self
>

HS

"Henry St.Pierre"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

03/12/2003 9:44 PM

[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious,
> holly, osage orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
>
> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of
> locating!
>
> Charlie Self
>
Mr. Self,
What can be more exotic than the beautiful maple in the northern part of
the United States or the southern part of Canada. Birds eye, fiddle back,
tiger etc.
Beauty is truly in the eyes of the beholder.
Hank


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in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 4:54 PM

On 02 Dec 2003 18:38:59 GMT, [email protected] (Charlie Self)
wrote:

>domestic exotic


isn't that a contradiction of terms?
Bridger

JB

"J.B. Bobbitt"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 11:35 PM

Olive.
Carolina cherry.
Pepper

-JBB

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly,
osage
> orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
>
> Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!
>
> Charlie Self
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who
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Silvan

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

02/12/2003 11:46 PM

Luigi Zanasi wrote:

> but also lower down: noun . . . 3. a striptease dancer.
> :-)

No, he said an exotic wood, not wood caused by an exotic.

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"Charles A. Peavey"

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

03/12/2003 11:08 AM

Madrone anyone?

Charles


"Alan McClure" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Charlie Self wrote:
>
> > What would you guys elect as a domestic exotic wood? The obvious, holly,
osage
> > orange, mesquite, persimmon, dogwood. What else?
> >
> > Try to select something that there is some rational chance of locating!
> >
> > Charlie Self
> >
> > "I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people
who
> > believe it." George Carlin
> >
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> Smokewood
> Pieces are small, greenish yellow with brown stripes.
> I've only had one piece big enough to make a pen.
> Bigger pieces may exist, I've never seen the tree (bush?)
> I've got two pieces left that might make an unmatched pen.
> Wish I could find more!
>
> ARM
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cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Charles A. Peavey" on 03/12/2003 11:08 AM

05/12/2003 3:08 PM

Charles Peavey notes:

>Madrone anyone?

Probably should have been on my original list.

Charlie Self

"I have as much authority as the Pope, I just don't have as many people who
believe it." George Carlin



















ST

Steve Turner

in reply to [email protected] (Charlie Self) on 02/12/2003 6:38 PM

03/12/2003 4:19 AM

Gerald Ross wrote:

> My vote would be for chinaberry. It has a great brown & tan coloring.
> Somewhat porous looks good in a box or turned piece.

We've got a lot of those around here (Austin TX). I've always wondered what
they'd look like on the inside.

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