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tinytim

20/11/2003 6:12 AM

To Dispose of this Table Saw or Not, or how to dispose of it.

Looking for a bit of advice from the group.

Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."

Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
have it milled flat again, but there's more.

Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.

It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?

A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
horse.

So here's the question. (finally)

Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Tim.


This topic has 22 replies

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

21/11/2003 7:31 PM

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:39:26 -0600, John Thompson
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>$4K worth of stamps?!? Good lord, is she gonna use them for expensive
>wallpaper?

I believe I overheard her say something about pen pals so she's
probably got a lot of Ebay sales to stamp.

>I think the PO limits money orders to $750 or $1000 each, so she may
>have had more than one of those too?

It's possible. I didn't see the document.

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Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 1:17 PM

Yep, ya blew it! I was trying to make a point and I lost track of the
original post. I DO know some people who are so cheap as to hurt
themselves trying to be "conservative". Sometimes I have let a good
deal go because of $5 yet I would go eat a $10 meal out. A matter of
priorities. I did happen to buy my Unisaw for $600 w/o fence. It was
like new and the first comment my boss made was "why didn't you get
them to give you a fence too?". I was just happy to get the saw for
that price. He has let so many good deals go by him because of
thinking something similar to that.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 13:54:27 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Well, first off, my name is NOT Larry. You came up with that on you
>>own.
>
>Oops! Jeez, I hope I haven't offended you so much that you now won't
>share your source for $700 Unisaws/PM66s!
>
>JP
>**************************************************************************
>$500 closer to a table saw : ) ....just sold my .270 Medallion : (
>
>Only $200 to go!
>
>
>
>>Jay Pique <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
>>>>wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
>>>>of them on this newsgroup that :
>>>>1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
>>>>2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
>>>
>>>Dear Larry:
>>>
>>>If you would please provide more information on where I could purchase
>>>either of those saws at that price, I'd be most appreciative.
>>>
>>>JP
>>>

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 12:16 PM

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:57:10 -0600, Lawrence A. Ramsey
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
>wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
>of them on this newsgroup that :
>1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
>2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700

Dear Larry:

If you would please provide more information on where I could purchase
either of those saws at that price, I'd be most appreciative.

JP



>3) Think " a saw is a saw is a saw is a saw is a ---"
>4) Looking for REAL bargin.
>
>
>
>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:12:25 GMT, tinytim
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>>
>>Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
>>recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
>>grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>>
>>Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
>>of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
>>wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
>>inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
>>it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
>>the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
>>have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>>
>>Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
>>I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
>>problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
>>view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
>>Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>>
>>It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
>>at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
>>compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
>>kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
>>The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
>>with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>>
>>A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
>>description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
>>still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
>>I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
>>horse.
>>
>>So here's the question. (finally)
>>
>>Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
>>with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
>>just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>>
>>Any thoughts are appreciated.
>>
>>Tim.

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 1:54 PM

Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:

>Well, first off, my name is NOT Larry. You came up with that on you
>own.

Oops! Jeez, I hope I haven't offended you so much that you now won't
share your source for $700 Unisaws/PM66s!

JP
**************************************************************************
$500 closer to a table saw : ) ....just sold my .270 Medallion : (

Only $200 to go!



>Jay Pique <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
>>>wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
>>>of them on this newsgroup that :
>>>1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
>>>2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
>>
>>Dear Larry:
>>
>>If you would please provide more information on where I could purchase
>>either of those saws at that price, I'd be most appreciative.
>>
>>JP
>>

JT

John Thompson

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

21/11/2003 9:39 AM

$4K worth of stamps?!? Good lord, is she gonna use them for expensive
wallpaper?

I think the PO limits money orders to $750 or $1000 each, so she may
have had more than one of those too?

John

DB

"David Babcock"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 6:22 AM

I think you answered your own question. I have my Grandfathers old block
plane that for some reason cannot be set right. I got so mad at it that I
don't even think about using it..........but throw it away...............not
ever!!! When I touch it, I can feel my long gone grandfathers hands on it,
and almost smell his pipe.....course it takes up a lot less room than a TS.

Dave

"tinytim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>
> Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
> recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
> grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>
> Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
> of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
> wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
> inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
> it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
> the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
> have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>
> Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
> I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
> problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
> view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
> Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>
> It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
> at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
> compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
> kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
> The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
> with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>
> A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
> description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
> still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
> I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
> horse.
>
> So here's the question. (finally)
>
> Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
> with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
> just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Tim.

RS

"Rob Stokes"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

27/11/2003 5:21 PM

Why don't you outfit it with a sanding disk and re-dedicate to a task other
than one which requires precision? That way you get to keep Grampa's saw and
have a useful tool at the same time.

Good luck
Rob


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"tinytim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>
> Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
> recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
> grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>
> Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
> of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
> wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
> inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
> it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
> the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
> have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>
> Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
> I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
> problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
> view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
> Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>
> It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
> at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
> compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
> kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
> The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
> with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>
> A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
> description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
> still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
> I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
> horse.
>
> So here's the question. (finally)
>
> Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
> with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
> just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Tim.

MR

Mark

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

21/11/2003 4:06 PM



Lawrence A. Ramsey wrote:
> Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
> wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
> of them on this newsgroup that :
> 1: Think Craftsman sets the standard


A standard is nothing more than a point to be measured from.


> 2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
> 3) Think " a saw is a saw is a saw is a saw is a ---"
> 4) Looking for REAL bargin.


$700?? You forgot tax and shipping. AND a saw isn't much good without a
fence.

A saw is a saw? In a way, yes. It is. An old carpenter told me if your
heads up your ass the best tools won't pull it out. From what I've seen,
I think that's true.


And what's wrong with maximizing your money?


4 questionable and debatable points in one post.




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Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

WL

"Wade Lippman"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

21/11/2003 3:28 AM

Put an ad in the paper. Somebody will pay $100 for it.

MR

Mark

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

22/11/2003 4:14 AM



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When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

jj

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in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

21/11/2003 8:41 PM

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Shawn

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 11:30 AM

I think there was some sarcasm in his statement for $700 Unisaws/PM66s.

Shawn

Jay Pique wrote:

> Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Well, first off, my name is NOT Larry. You came up with that on you
>>own.
>
>
> Oops! Jeez, I hope I haven't offended you so much that you now won't
> share your source for $700 Unisaws/PM66s!
>
> JP
> **************************************************************************
> $500 closer to a table saw : ) ....just sold my .270 Medallion : (
>
> Only $200 to go!
>
>
>
>
>>Jay Pique <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
>>>>wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
>>>>of them on this newsgroup that :
>>>>1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
>>>>2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
>>>
>>>Dear Larry:
>>>
>>>If you would please provide more information on where I could purchase
>>>either of those saws at that price, I'd be most appreciative.
>>>
>>>JP
>>>
>
>

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 12:30 PM

Well, first off, my name is NOT Larry. You came up with that on you
own.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:16:24 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 08:57:10 -0600, Lawrence A. Ramsey
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
>>wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
>>of them on this newsgroup that :
>>1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
>>2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
>
>Dear Larry:
>
>If you would please provide more information on where I could purchase
>either of those saws at that price, I'd be most appreciative.
>
>JP
>
>
>
>>3) Think " a saw is a saw is a saw is a saw is a ---"
>>4) Looking for REAL bargin.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:12:25 GMT, tinytim
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>>>
>>>Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
>>>recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
>>>grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>>>
>>>Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
>>>of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
>>>wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
>>>inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
>>>it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
>>>the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
>>>have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>>>
>>>Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
>>>I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
>>>problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
>>>view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
>>>Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>>>
>>>It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
>>>at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
>>>compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
>>>kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
>>>The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
>>>with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>>>
>>>A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
>>>description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
>>>still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
>>>I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
>>>horse.
>>>
>>>So here's the question. (finally)
>>>
>>>Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
>>>with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
>>>just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>>>
>>>Any thoughts are appreciated.
>>>
>>>Tim.

jf

"juan fandango"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 7:34 AM


"George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Take the bearing out and go to a bearing place they will match it up for a
> few dollars, bearings are not expensive,
> get a sanding disk plate and turn it into a sander,
>
What a great idea!

jf

"juan fandango"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 7:33 AM


"tinytim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>
> Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
> recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
> grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>
> Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
> of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
> wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
> inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
> it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
> the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
> have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>
> Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
> I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
> problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
> view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
> Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>
> It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
> at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
> compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
> kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
> The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
> with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>
> A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
> description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
> still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
> I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
> horse.
>
> So here's the question. (finally)
>
> Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
> with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
> just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Tim.
I've got an old classic Craftsman 9" that I use for crosscuts etc. Can't rip
much. I would love to have another cast iron wing so I can cut plywood
easily. BTW, if it has a dual pulley wheel, they are hard to find
(reasonable price) for the Craftsman.

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 8:57 AM

Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
of them on this newsgroup that :
1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
3) Think " a saw is a saw is a saw is a saw is a ---"
4) Looking for REAL bargin.



On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:12:25 GMT, tinytim
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>
>Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
>recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
>grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>
>Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
>of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
>wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
>inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
>it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
>the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
>have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>
>Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
>I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
>problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
>view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
>Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>
>It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
>at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
>compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
>kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
>The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
>with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>
>A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
>description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
>still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
>I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
>horse.
>
>So here's the question. (finally)
>
>Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
>with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
>just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
>Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
>Tim.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

21/11/2003 4:00 AM


Then let's aim the sarcasm at the buyers at that price.
6 o' one, half dozen of the other.

I would have told the OP to put it all the nostalgic crap
on Ebay with the saur at $50 and watch it skyrocket up to
several hundred...for an 8-incher!

Speaking of strange things: I was in the post office
yesterday and there was an interesting farmer's wife
at the counter collecting lots and lots of stamps. Before
her were several beanie babies. I don't know what she had
sold, but she was cashing in a $4,000 postal money order
for stamps. She left with a THICK portfolio of every
imaginable denomination and imprinting, down to a single
3-cent stamp. The dozen people behind me and 2 in front
of me watched this while a little pink haired lady got a
post box and a young couple resealed their box 3 times
and THEN did the paperwork and customs forms, etc.


On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:40:56 -0600, "Sweet Sawdust"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>Nah just thinking of what they would be worth with out the nameplate on
>them.
>"Shawn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I think there was some sarcasm in his statement for $700 Unisaws/PM66s.

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"Sweet Sawdust"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 9:20 AM


Can you use it for a router table top??? I have seen some nice setup using
old TS's for that purpose
"tinytim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>
> Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
> recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
> grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>
> Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
> of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
> wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
> inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
> it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
> the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
> have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>
> Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
> I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
> problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
> view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
> Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>
> It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
> at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
> compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
> kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
> The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
> with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>
> A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
> description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
> still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
> I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
> horse.
>
> So here's the question. (finally)
>
> Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
> with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
> just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Tim.

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"Sweet Sawdust"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 3:40 PM

Nah just thinking of what they would be worth with out the nameplate on
them.
"Shawn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I think there was some sarcasm in his statement for $700 Unisaws/PM66s.
>
> Shawn
>
> Jay Pique wrote:
>
> > Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, first off, my name is NOT Larry. You came up with that on you
> >>own.
> >
> >
> > Oops! Jeez, I hope I haven't offended you so much that you now won't
> > share your source for $700 Unisaws/PM66s!
> >
> > JP
> >
**************************************************************************
> > $500 closer to a table saw : ) ....just sold my .270 Medallion : (
> >
> > Only $200 to go!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Jay Pique <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Lawrence A. Ramsey <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Wel, if you can't turn it into an end table, I'd find someone who
> >>>>wants a "top notch, antique, killer table saw cheap". There are a LOT
> >>>>of them on this newsgroup that :
> >>>>1: Think Craftsman sets the standard
> >>>>2) Are convinced that a Unisaw or Powermatic 66 is overpriced at $700
> >>>
> >>>Dear Larry:
> >>>
> >>>If you would please provide more information on where I could purchase
> >>>either of those saws at that price, I'd be most appreciative.
> >>>
> >>>JP
> >>>
> >
> >
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

27/11/2003 6:58 PM


"Rob Stokes"writes:

> Why don't you outfit it with a sanding disk and re-dedicate to a task
other
> than one which requires precision? That way you get to keep Grampa's saw
and
> have a useful tool at the same time.

Good advice.

"tinytim" writes:

> > Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
> > recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
> > grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
> >
> > Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
> > of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak.

Once had a Craftsman saw, maybe 1950 vintage.

Replace the arbor ass'y (It's a modified water pump bearing), change sheaves
as req'd to get 3,600 spindle RPM, and replace wiring.

You will now have the basis of a nice 10" disk sander.

HTH.


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"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 6:54 AM

Take the bearing out and go to a bearing place they will match it up for a
few dollars, bearings are not expensive,
get a sanding disk plate and turn it into a sander,

Good Luck,
George
"tinytim" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looking for a bit of advice from the group.
>
> Received grandpa's old Craftsman contractor's style table saw from dad
> recently. I asked him how old it was and he said "I got it from your
> grandfather in '68 and it was pretty old then."
>
> Couldn't get a straight vertical cut on it from the front to the rear
> of a 3 inch crosscut in 3/4 inch red oak. Seems like the blade
> wobbles. Read a bunch of stuff on how to tune it up, but closer
> inspection found more problems. In checking the cast iron table top,
> it appears to have a downward deflection (just under 1/16 inch) from
> the blade insert to the front of the table. A friend says I could
> have it milled flat again, but there's more.
>
> Saw is model number 113.22411. Sears parts has very little available.
> I can get an arbor bearing if that would solve the wobbly blade
> problem. The only information they have on it is a blurry exploded
> view available online. I prefer to have a manual with my power tools.
> Especially if I'm going to be taking it apart.
>
> It also seems grandpa got a little creative with a new (well different
> at least) motor some time ago. RPMs and cuts seem a little slow
> compared to dad's new cheapo tabletop saw. There's no splitter,
> kickback device, or blade guard. The fence is settable, but barely.
> The miter guage is beaten and bent. Did I mention that it's wired
> with a house light switch and some flexible conduit?
>
> A remodeling contractor I met said it's a lost cause after the
> description I've just given. I have nothing against old tools that
> still function (I think I actually have some nostalgia for this saw -
> I've known it since I was a kid), but I think I'm kicking a dead
> horse.
>
> So here's the question. (finally)
>
> Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
> with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
> just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> Tim.

Aw

"ATP"

in reply to tinytim on 20/11/2003 6:12 AM

20/11/2003 12:21 PM

tinytim wrote:
> Looking for a bit of advice from the group.

>
> So here's the question. (finally)
>
> Is this saw of value to anyone? Would a tinkerer want to even bother
> with something like this? If I do want to get rid of it, should I
> just take it to the dump or is there value to any of it?
>
Ebay.


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