I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into taking
a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
thick.
Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this and
what they paid. Thanks
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I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the
position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he
has overcome while trying to succeed. --Booker T. Washington
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The average price for machine usage is is 50 to 60 per hour no matter where
you are,
This works out to be a fair price, anyone charging more than that is either
ripping people off or is using the high price as a detterant.
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BEZub.250831$HS4.2280091@attbi_s01...
> I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into
taking
> a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
> Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
> 46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
> thick.
>
> Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this
and
> what they paid. Thanks
>
>
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> ***
> I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the
> position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he
> has overcome while trying to succeed. --Booker T. Washington
>
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> ***
>
>
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BEZub.250831$HS4.2280091@attbi_s01>...
> I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into taking
> a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
> Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
> 46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
> thick.
>
> Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this and
> what they paid. Thanks
>
> ****************************************************************************
> ***
> I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the
> position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he
> has overcome while trying to succeed. --Booker T. Washington
> ****************************************************************************
> ***
I had a 36" X 60" top sanded and was charged $25. He ran it thru the
machine 4 times, took about 5 minutes. Basic charge for shop time was
$50 per hour so I guess the minimum was 1/2 hour.
Fred
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BEZub.250831$HS4.2280091@attbi_s01>...
> I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into taking
> a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
> Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
> 46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
> thick.
>
> Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this and
> what they paid. Thanks
Local shop here (west Los Angeles) quoted me $25 set up and $1 per
minute thereafter. For your size and 1/8 inch it seems about right.
Have you considered your cost for owning, storing and maintaining a
large enough sander compared to paying someone, based on frequency of
use?
In my area the cost is ~$1.50/minute with no minimum charge. When the
size of the parts I need surfaced exceed my planer, I'll prepare the
parts to close the finished size, about 1/16" or less away. You could
also save money if you only need to clean up the surface to be smooth
and flat but not sanding it to a particular thickness. This works
great for tabletops and the like where being a bit thicker or thinner
isn't the end of the world.
The last time I was there I used the machine for 3 minutes, and the
cost was a little under $5 with tax.
If all these cost others are posting are true, it'd lead me to
consider buying a Performax sander. I'd get the convenience of having
it in my shop plus there'd be some resale value when I decided I no
longer wanted or needed it.
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:00:49 GMT, "Keith Carlson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into taking
>a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
>Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
>46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
>thick.
>
>Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this and
>what they paid. Thanks
>
>****************************************************************************
>***
>I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the
>position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he
>has overcome while trying to succeed. --Booker T. Washington
>****************************************************************************
>***
>
"Lazarus Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In my area the cost is ~$1.50/minute with no minimum charge. When the
> size of the parts I need surfaced exceed my planer, I'll prepare the
> parts to close the finished size, about 1/16" or less away. You could
> also save money if you only need to clean up the surface to be smooth
> and flat but not sanding it to a particular thickness. This works
> great for tabletops and the like where being a bit thicker or thinner
> isn't the end of the world.
>
> The last time I was there I used the machine for 3 minutes, and the
> cost was a little under $5 with tax.
>
> If all these cost others are posting are true, it'd lead me to
> consider buying a Performax sander. I'd get the convenience of having
> it in my shop plus there'd be some resale value when I decided I no
> longer wanted or needed it.
>
Thanks much for the replies. I did not mention location; I'm talking small
town just outside Minneapolis MN.
Lazarus, good point. I did ask him about 7/8 to 3/4, but the 7/8 starting
point is just to allow enough material so it can come out flat without going
below 3/4. I plan to make 3 of the panel clamps that Kim Whitmyre posted
pics of a while back, and if I do a decent job with the glue-up, it may not
take much sanding. No reason the top can't be a little thicker than 3/4.
The other thing I'm thinking is to ask the shop teacher at a local HS where
I took a community ed class. He may let me use their drum sander for a small
donation to the materials fund.
Buying a drum sander is out of the question for me right now. Someday...
someday.
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BEZub.250831$HS4.2280091@attbi_s01...
> I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into
taking
> a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
> Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
> 46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
> thick.
>
> Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this
and
> what they paid. Thanks
>
>
****************************************************************************
> ***
> I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the
> position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he
> has overcome while trying to succeed. --Booker T. Washington
>
****************************************************************************
> ***
I just did this recently. Here in Chicago there is Owl Lumber. I had a 60
x 30 tabletop that I wanted sanded. It cost me $8. I wasn't concerned
about getting to a particular thickness, just getting it sanded smooth.
todd
The High School shop might be the best choice for you. In my area you can
take a woodworking shop class (10 weeks for 3 hours/week). I haven't taken
it, but basically you just show up and use the High School shop equipment.
I think it only cost's $60 so that works out to $2/hr. Rather than paying
$60 to a cabinet shop to sand your one item you could sand your item plus
have another 29 hours, 50 minutes left for other tasks.
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Epcvb.260546$Fm2.276069@attbi_s04...
> "Lazarus Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In my area the cost is ~$1.50/minute with no minimum charge. When the
> > size of the parts I need surfaced exceed my planer, I'll prepare the
> > parts to close the finished size, about 1/16" or less away. You could
> > also save money if you only need to clean up the surface to be smooth
> > and flat but not sanding it to a particular thickness. This works
> > great for tabletops and the like where being a bit thicker or thinner
> > isn't the end of the world.
> >
> > The last time I was there I used the machine for 3 minutes, and the
> > cost was a little under $5 with tax.
> >
> > If all these cost others are posting are true, it'd lead me to
> > consider buying a Performax sander. I'd get the convenience of having
> > it in my shop plus there'd be some resale value when I decided I no
> > longer wanted or needed it.
> >
> Thanks much for the replies. I did not mention location; I'm talking small
> town just outside Minneapolis MN.
>
> Lazarus, good point. I did ask him about 7/8 to 3/4, but the 7/8 starting
> point is just to allow enough material so it can come out flat without
going
> below 3/4. I plan to make 3 of the panel clamps that Kim Whitmyre posted
> pics of a while back, and if I do a decent job with the glue-up, it may
not
> take much sanding. No reason the top can't be a little thicker than 3/4.
>
> The other thing I'm thinking is to ask the shop teacher at a local HS
where
> I took a community ed class. He may let me use their drum sander for a
small
> donation to the materials fund.
>
> Buying a drum sander is out of the question for me right now. Someday...
> someday.
>
>
LArry, I am interested in this class you speak of...As I stated earlier, I'm
also in Auburn and am kind of e-Stalking you. can you let me know where
this is?
Thanks!
Fred
fdawg at comcast dot net
"Larry C in Auburn, WA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:P3dvb.198836$275.738751@attbi_s53...
> The High School shop might be the best choice for you. In my area you can
> take a woodworking shop class (10 weeks for 3 hours/week). I haven't
taken
> it, but basically you just show up and use the High School shop equipment.
> I think it only cost's $60 so that works out to $2/hr. Rather than paying
> $60 to a cabinet shop to sand your one item you could sand your item plus
> have another 29 hours, 50 minutes left for other tasks.
> --
> Larry C in Auburn, WA
>
> "Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Epcvb.260546$Fm2.276069@attbi_s04...
> > "Lazarus Long" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In my area the cost is ~$1.50/minute with no minimum charge. When the
> > > size of the parts I need surfaced exceed my planer, I'll prepare the
> > > parts to close the finished size, about 1/16" or less away. You could
> > > also save money if you only need to clean up the surface to be smooth
> > > and flat but not sanding it to a particular thickness. This works
> > > great for tabletops and the like where being a bit thicker or thinner
> > > isn't the end of the world.
> > >
> > > The last time I was there I used the machine for 3 minutes, and the
> > > cost was a little under $5 with tax.
> > >
> > > If all these cost others are posting are true, it'd lead me to
> > > consider buying a Performax sander. I'd get the convenience of having
> > > it in my shop plus there'd be some resale value when I decided I no
> > > longer wanted or needed it.
> > >
> > Thanks much for the replies. I did not mention location; I'm talking
small
> > town just outside Minneapolis MN.
> >
> > Lazarus, good point. I did ask him about 7/8 to 3/4, but the 7/8
starting
> > point is just to allow enough material so it can come out flat without
> going
> > below 3/4. I plan to make 3 of the panel clamps that Kim Whitmyre posted
> > pics of a while back, and if I do a decent job with the glue-up, it may
> not
> > take much sanding. No reason the top can't be a little thicker than 3/4.
> >
> > The other thing I'm thinking is to ask the shop teacher at a local HS
> where
> > I took a community ed class. He may let me use their drum sander for a
> small
> > donation to the materials fund.
> >
> > Buying a drum sander is out of the question for me right now. Someday...
> > someday.
> >
> >
>
Why not go to your local auctions and buy a used machine? Might only cost
you $10K or so...
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BEZub.250831$HS4.2280091@attbi_s01...
> I know I've seen a few posts here recommending that someone look into
taking
> a glued-up top to a cabinet shop to have it run through a big drum sander.
> Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
> 46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
> thick.
>
> Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this
and
> what they paid. Thanks
>
>
****************************************************************************
> ***
> I have learned that success is to be measured not so much by the
> position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he
> has overcome while trying to succeed. --Booker T. Washington
>
****************************************************************************
> ***
>
>
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:00:49 GMT, "Keith Carlson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Seems awfully high to me? Just wondering if someone else has done this and
>what they paid. Thanks
Your info is pretty useless without a location. Different parts of
the country have widely varying labor, tax, electricity, and real
estate overhead costs.
Here's a retail milling price list for a decent sized millwork shop in
my area (the semi-expensive Northeast USA):
<http://www.harrisent.com/PLMill.html> His belt sander is $100/hr,
with a $50 minimum. Keep in mind that he accepts credit cards from
retail customers, and regularily deals with the unwashed masses, both
of which drive his prices up.
A small shop paid in cash might be cheaper. A shop in NYC or the SF
Bay area would probably be much more, while a shop in rural West
Virginia would probably be much less.
Barry
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 07:00:49 GMT, "Keith Carlson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, I checked out the shop in my town, and the guy estimated $30-50. For
>46 x 28 inches, that I told him would be appx 7/8 thick, to finish to 3/4
>thick.
>
>Seems awfully high to me?
Seems reasonable. 1/8" is a lot to remove by sanding and that needs
several passes. It's not a wood thicknessing process, it's a
finishing process.
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:49:46 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>The average price for machine usage is is 50 to 60 per hour no matter where
>you are,
Right...
So the price would be the same in an area with twice the national
average income, housing prices, etc... as in an area with all of that
stuff at half the national average?
Barry