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"Robert Graham"

26/01/2004 7:07 PM

converting cordless drills to corded

I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but couldn't
find this question discussed anywhere.

Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new drill.

So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
cheating the battery game.

Thanks for any help.

Robert


This topic has 23 replies

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"habbi"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 11:50 PM

I thought about that for my 12 volt drill, I was thinking I could then run
it off a car battery or battery charger
"Andy Dingley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:07:32 -0800, "Robert Graham"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> >convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,
>
> Use a trebuchet. A few good hurlings of the cordless drill, then you
> will obviously have to go and buy a corded one, no questions asked.
>
> Converting one into the other just isn't sensible.
>


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[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 4:42 AM

Greetings and Salutations.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:07:32 -0800, "Robert Graham"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but couldn't
>find this question discussed anywhere.
>
Hum...that's odd... I seem to recall this coming up either
here or on the metalworking newsgroup just recently.

>Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
>want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new drill.
>
This certainly can be true.

>So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
>convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
>cheating the battery game.
>
In short...no. While battery powered drills are great things,
they have rather less power than most tailed tools. Losing the
portability factor does NOT make it a better tool. Now..there are
a few different ways to make it useful.
1) Drop some serious bucks on a 10V wallwart, and, after
pulling the guts out of one of the defunct battery packs, attach
the power supply to it, to adapt it to the drill, and, use the
drill as a corded unit. It will probably have to produce a couple
of amps or more, so will not be cheap...or light.
2) Take the battery packs to Batteries, Etc and have them
rebuilt. That will likely be much cheaper than replacing, and
will not lose you the strength of these tools - their portability.
3) Cut the battery packs apart and, replace
the cells in them yourself. Probably the cheapest way, although
the more labor intensive.
4) Bundle it up, take some pictures, sell it on Ebay and
buy a new, 18V unit that will twist your arm off. I suspect if
you put words like "Unique", "special", "collector's special"
and that sort of thing, you likely will find someone to pay
more than retail for it (he said, bitterly, having been outbid
a number of times recently)
Regards
Dave Mundt

gG

in reply to [email protected] (Dave Mundt) on 27/01/2004 4:42 AM

27/01/2004 6:04 AM

Put a cigarette lighter plug on it and use it in your car/boat.

BR

Bruce Rowen

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 8:53 AM

Joe Willmann wrote:
> "Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>
>>I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but
>>couldn't find this question discussed anywhere.
>>
>>Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery
>>doesn't want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than,
>>a new drill.
>>
>>So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
>>convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,
>>thereby cheating the battery game.
>>
>>Thanks for any help.
>>
>>Robert
>>
>>
>
>
> It will be tough. It may only take 9.6 VDC but the motor will draw lots
> of amps. I would not be surprized if peaks of 10 amps are common.
> Those little power suplies just won't handle it.
I though I saw a place that stuffed switch mode power supplies into old
battery packs. Certainly get plenty of power this way.

-Bruce



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Bruce Rowen

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 9:41 AM

Bridger wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:53:12 -0700, Bruce Rowen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I though I saw a place that stuffed switch mode power supplies into old
>>battery packs. Certainly get plenty of power this way.
>>
>>-Bruce
>>
>
>
> if you can find it again I'd sure be interested...

Here is one for a Dewalt. I DAGS with "cordless drill ac converter" so
you might try it as well to find something that will work for you.

-Bruce


http://www.arizonatools.com/catalog/browse/2252-3425,2/detail/3834/




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BruceR

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 11:26 AM

j.b. miller wrote:
> Gee if you're in the 'states' , goto your local Harbour Freight and buy
> their 9.6 volt battery packs for $9.00 !
>
> details...
> 9.6 Volt Battery
> Works with 3/8'', 9.6 Volt cordless drills, ITEMS 45934 and 45933. . 1.3
> Ah . 8 Cell
>
> ITEM 45943-0VGA
> ...
>
> OK, you'll have to cutoff the case,resolder the batteries, but man what a
> nice,easy solution !
>
> I'm surprised they're not on sale(usually they are $4.99 )!!!
>
> I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 sets to replace my 'dead' Makita and Craftsman
> drills.
>
> It really costs MORE for 'official' battery packs than NEW drills.......
>
> Jay in Greensville,Ont
>
>

I bought some of these to refurbish my dying 9.6 Makita packs. Install
was easy enough but they died after only a couple of charges. I'm
guessing they are not compatible with the Makita charger and I'll have
to use a wall-wart style trickle (24 hour) type charger.

-Bruce



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Lance Spaulding

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 5:03 PM

Robert Graham <[email protected]> wrote:
> I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but couldn't
> find this question discussed anywhere.

> Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
> want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new drill.

> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
> cheating the battery game.

> Thanks for any help.

> Robert


I've been thinking about doing this too since I have 4 cordless
drills that wont hold a charge. My plan is to buy a cheap switching
PC supply and attach it to my workbench and use the 12v supply to
power the drill(s). These supplies can be picked up pretty cheap
(a 500 watt supply on pricewatch.com is $13 delivered) and can
handle 10+ amps on the 12 volt supply so I think it will handle
it Ok. It won't be portable but all I really want is to be able
to use these drills on my workbench (I have other corded and cordless
drills for mobil usage). If I end up doing this, I'll let you know
how it worked...

Lance

WL

"Wilson Lamb"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 9:58 PM

I like the car answer.
Otherwise, go buy a cheap drill. This is a time loser, and I'm a big
scrounge. Good DC supplies are expensive and a lot of trouble!
Wilson
"John Crea" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> You would need a converted to step down the 110v AC to 9.6v DC and
> adapter that to run the drill
>
> John
>
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:07:32 -0800, "Robert Graham"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but
couldn't
> >find this question discussed anywhere.
> >
> >Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
> >want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new
drill.
> >
> >So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> >convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
> >cheating the battery game.
> >
> >Thanks for any help.
> >
> >Robert
> >
>

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 10:31 AM

That will make it turn but little more. These supplies can not deliver the
amperage to produce any power. If it's a good supply, it will shut down. If
a cheap one, it will burn up.

"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:oeuRb.27397>
> Radio Shack sells power supplies that produce different voltages, some are
> variable. Find one that will produce the correct voltage. You may get
> lucky and have the power supply fit inside an old battery casing.
>
> I don't think I would go to the effort thought.
>
> Frank
>
>

Kk

"KYHighlander"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

26/01/2004 10:10 PM

a bridge rectifier and transformer may fit into the old battery pack, along
with a circuit board and a few electrolytic caps and a voltage regulator,
shouldn't be hard. Pick up a circuit diagram at Radio Shack along with all
the parts.

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"Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but couldn't
> find this question discussed anywhere.
>
> Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
> want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new drill.
>
> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
> cheating the battery game.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Robert
>
>

gG

[email protected] (GBsCards)

in reply to "KYHighlander" on 26/01/2004 10:10 PM

27/01/2004 3:36 AM

Have you seen the prices on 9v cordless drills recently?

JW

Joe Willmann

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 3:29 PM

"Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but
> couldn't find this question discussed anywhere.
>
> Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery
> doesn't want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than,
> a new drill.
>
> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,
> thereby cheating the battery game.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Robert
>
>

It will be tough. It may only take 9.6 VDC but the motor will draw lots
of amps. I would not be surprized if peaks of 10 amps are common.
Those little power suplies just won't handle it.

JW

Joe Willmann

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

29/01/2004 4:57 PM

[email protected] (Tom M.) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
>> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,
>> thereby cheating the battery game.
>
>
> I have one of those Makita 18v cordless sliding miter saws, and I
> thought about hooking a power supply to it somehow, but I'm not sure
> how much current the motor would pull. I don't use the saw very often,
> and I usually have to recharge the battery every time I break it out.
> I too would like to know if anybody has successfully done this, and
> what type of power supply they used.
>
> Tom
>

Now for this application what you need is a charger permantely wired to
the battery. That way at a job site where there isn't power you can run
it without plugging it in. Then when there is power the battery will
charge some in between cuts. If after lots of cutting the batter is
getting week then just go do something else for a while.

Now as for how to acomplish this. Open up the tool and add a small
power plug like a headphone jack to the tool. Not the battery.
Batteries do go bad. By modifying the tool you get to replace the
battery when you need it. Then take an old battery of that will fit in
your charger. Take it apart, remove the batteries and attach a cord
with the correct plug on the end. This way you can use your existing
charger.

The only mod to the tool is a small (3/16) hole. Then install connector
and wire in parrallel with the battery connection. Use at least 18
guage wire to connect the connector to the battery contacts. Then use
at least a 18 guage power cord attaching the modified battery to the
plug. What you want is an 18 guage path from the charger through the
cable to the tool. Otherwise the quick charger might not work. Quich
chargers often generate over 1 amp of current and have to measure the
voltage at the battery to tell if it is charged. You need really good
connections so that the charger works properly.

Then lets say you are making a 10 second cut every couple of minutes.
The battery should never get low.

Pj

"P©WÉ®T©©LMAN ²ºº4"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

29/01/2004 2:04 PM


"Joe Willmann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Tom M.) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > "Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> >> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> >> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,
> >> thereby cheating the battery game.
> >
> >
> > I have one of those Makita 18v cordless sliding miter saws, and I
> > thought about hooking a power supply to it somehow, but I'm not sure
> > how much current the motor would pull. I don't use the saw very often,
> > and I usually have to recharge the battery every time I break it out.
> > I too would like to know if anybody has successfully done this, and
> > what type of power supply they used.
> >
> > Tom
> >
>
> Now for this application what you need is a charger permantely wired to
> the battery. That way at a job site where there isn't power you can run
> it without plugging it in. Then when there is power the battery will
> charge some in between cuts. If after lots of cutting the batter is
> getting week then just go do something else for a while.
>
> Now as for how to acomplish this. Open up the tool and add a small
> power plug like a headphone jack to the tool. Not the battery.
> Batteries do go bad. By modifying the tool you get to replace the
> battery when you need it. Then take an old battery of that will fit in
> your charger. Take it apart, remove the batteries and attach a cord
> with the correct plug on the end. This way you can use your existing
> charger.
>
> The only mod to the tool is a small (3/16) hole. Then install connector
> and wire in parrallel with the battery connection. Use at least 18
> guage wire to connect the connector to the battery contacts. Then use
> at least a 18 guage power cord attaching the modified battery to the
> plug. What you want is an 18 guage path from the charger through the
> cable to the tool. Otherwise the quick charger might not work. Quich
> chargers often generate over 1 amp of current and have to measure the
> voltage at the battery to tell if it is charged. You need really good
> connections so that the charger works properly.
>
> Then lets say you are making a 10 second cut every couple of minutes.
> The battery should never get low.

What a bunch of well though out baloney LOL :-)

Jon~

JK

Jim K

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 3:19 AM

I love it. Only in America would we pay a premium for a cordless drill
and then drop another $140 on it to make it run from a cord.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:41:12 -0700, Bruce Rowen <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Here is one for a Dewalt. I DAGS with "cordless drill ac converter" so
>you might try it as well to find something that will work for you.
>
>-Bruce
>
>
> http://www.arizonatools.com/catalog/browse/2252-3425,2/detail/3834/
>
>
>
>
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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 11:35 PM

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:07:32 -0800, "Robert Graham"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
>convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,

Use a trebuchet. A few good hurlings of the cordless drill, then you
will obviously have to go and buy a corded one, no questions asked.

Converting one into the other just isn't sensible.

gG

in reply to Andy Dingley on 28/01/2004 11:35 PM

28/01/2004 11:52 PM

The other option is to get another drill with the same battery pack. They
usually come with 2 so you can use both at the same time or one while the spare
is charging. My wife and I have his and hers Makitas.
That is sometimes handy when you are drilling and driving screws.

jm

"j.b. miller"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 11:30 AM

Gee if you're in the 'states' , goto your local Harbour Freight and buy
their 9.6 volt battery packs for $9.00 !

details...
9.6 Volt Battery
Works with 3/8'', 9.6 Volt cordless drills, ITEMS 45934 and 45933. . 1.3
Ah . 8 Cell

ITEM 45943-0VGA
...

OK, you'll have to cutoff the case,resolder the batteries, but man what a
nice,easy solution !

I'm surprised they're not on sale(usually they are $4.99 )!!!

I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 sets to replace my 'dead' Makita and Craftsman
drills.

It really costs MORE for 'official' battery packs than NEW drills.......

Jay in Greensville,Ont

tT

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

28/01/2004 7:33 PM

"Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
> cheating the battery game.


I have one of those Makita 18v cordless sliding miter saws, and I
thought about hooking a power supply to it somehow, but I'm not sure
how much current the motor would pull. I don't use the saw very often,
and I usually have to recharge the battery every time I break it out.
I too would like to know if anybody has successfully done this, and
what type of power supply they used.

Tom

JC

John Crea

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

26/01/2004 10:19 PM

You would need a converted to step down the 110v AC to 9.6v DC and
adapter that to run the drill

John

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:07:32 -0800, "Robert Graham"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but couldn't
>find this question discussed anywhere.
>
>Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
>want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new drill.
>
>So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
>convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
>cheating the battery game.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Robert
>

Sd

Silvan

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

30/01/2004 9:23 AM

Andy Dingley wrote:

>>convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded,
>
> Use a trebuchet. A few good hurlings of the cordless drill, then you
> will obviously have to go and buy a corded one, no questions asked.
>
> Converting one into the other just isn't sensible.

And building and using a trebuchet is just damn good fun too. Highly
recommended!

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

Bn

Bridger

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 9:14 AM

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 08:53:12 -0700, Bruce Rowen <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I though I saw a place that stuffed switch mode power supplies into old
>battery packs. Certainly get plenty of power this way.
>
>-Bruce
>

if you can find it again I'd sure be interested...

FK

"Frank Ketchum"

in reply to "Robert Graham" on 26/01/2004 7:07 PM

27/01/2004 2:05 PM


"Robert Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I did a Google Internet and Groups search on the above string but couldn't
> find this question discussed anywhere.
>
> Sometime ago I bought a 9.6 volt cordless drill. Now the battery doesn't
> want to stay charged. A new battery is as much, or more than, a new drill.
>
> So I was wondering if any clever person has worked out an easy way to
> convert a still good cordless drill motor to one that is corded, thereby
> cheating the battery game.
>

Radio Shack sells power supplies that produce different voltages, some are
variable. Find one that will produce the correct voltage. You may get
lucky and have the power supply fit inside an old battery casing.

I don't think I would go to the effort thought.

Frank


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