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25/08/2005 4:21 PM

Front door refinishing

Hi,
I have a large front wooden front door that has a coating of varnish, I
believe. At least I think it is varnish, it is reddish brown.

Anyway, the door is about ready to need refinishing. What would be the
best way to do it? Should I sand it down to wood or just sand the
existing varnish smooth and refinish?

What is the best thing to put on it? It gets a good deal of afternoon
sun and some rain when the wind blows enough so it needs to be
waterproof and be able to hold up to the sun.

Thanks!
Gary


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b

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

25/08/2005 1:28 PM

most paint stores have it or can at least get it.

UE

User Example

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

25/08/2005 7:03 PM

Where would I be able to find the marine grade spar varnish?

Gary A in KC wrote:
> I've got the same issues. Have a cherry double door front entry (also cherry
> framed stained glass on 2nd story above the doorway). About every other year
> we refinish it. Depending on the shape of the old finish we sometimes take
> it down to bare wood. If the finish isn't in too bad of shape, you can scuff
> sand with 220 grit or so (or use steel wool).
> I always use a marine grade spar varnish. Has good UV protection and a
> certain amount of flexibility for a piece of wood exposed to elements and
> high heat. Provides the best protection I can find for a door with so much
> exposure to the elements.
>
> Gary in KC
>
>
> "User Example" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Hi,
>>I have a large front wooden front door that has a coating of varnish, I
>>believe. At least I think it is varnish, it is reddish brown.
>>
>>Anyway, the door is about ready to need refinishing. What would be the
>>best way to do it? Should I sand it down to wood or just sand the
>>existing varnish smooth and refinish?
>>
>>What is the best thing to put on it? It gets a good deal of afternoon
>>sun and some rain when the wind blows enough so it needs to be
>>waterproof and be able to hold up to the sun.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Gary
>
>
>

GA

"Gary A in KC"

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

25/08/2005 6:18 PM

I've got the same issues. Have a cherry double door front entry (also cherry
framed stained glass on 2nd story above the doorway). About every other year
we refinish it. Depending on the shape of the old finish we sometimes take
it down to bare wood. If the finish isn't in too bad of shape, you can scuff
sand with 220 grit or so (or use steel wool).
I always use a marine grade spar varnish. Has good UV protection and a
certain amount of flexibility for a piece of wood exposed to elements and
high heat. Provides the best protection I can find for a door with so much
exposure to the elements.

Gary in KC


"User Example" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a large front wooden front door that has a coating of varnish, I
> believe. At least I think it is varnish, it is reddish brown.
>
> Anyway, the door is about ready to need refinishing. What would be the
> best way to do it? Should I sand it down to wood or just sand the
> existing varnish smooth and refinish?
>
> What is the best thing to put on it? It gets a good deal of afternoon
> sun and some rain when the wind blows enough so it needs to be
> waterproof and be able to hold up to the sun.
>
> Thanks!
> Gary

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

26/08/2005 10:35 AM

Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:25:17 -0500, the opaque "D Steck"
> <[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>
>>I have a Pella fiberglass door that was stained professionally.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Now THERE is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. <g>
>

Dang it, Larry! Some of us just don't like the natural color of
fiberglass!

Patriarch

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

26/08/2005 6:27 AM

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:25:17 -0500, the opaque "D Steck"
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:

>I have a Pella fiberglass door that was stained professionally.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now THERE is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. <g>


>rated acrylic finish that dries very quickly and can be applied with the
>door up. It needs to be applied annually but surface prep is easy - just
>clean the door with water and a mild soap, rinse and then dry. Only need
>one coat every year and he put three coats for a start. We've had one heck
>of a sunny summer and I have to say the finish held up perfectly. I've seen
>spar varnish turn white in sun like we had this summer so I'm convinced this
>stuff is good.

I redid my mother's (West-facing SoCal) wooden door with Watco
oil finish. It lasts about 6 months before needing another 10
minute treatment. (Wipe on, wait 15, wipe off.)

I'd try Waterlox now if either of us still lived there.
The www.waterlox.com Original finish is tung oil plus
varnish.

I use this: http://www.waterlox.com/product.cfm?productid=6

USER wants this, and maybe some of their sealer first:
http://www.waterlox.com/product.cfm?productid=9


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Scorp

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

26/08/2005 11:53 PM

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:21:11 GMT, User Example <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I have a large front wooden front door that has a coating of varnish,
>Anyway, the door is about ready to need refinishing. What would be the
>best way to do it? Should I sand it down to wood or just sand the
>existing varnish smooth and refinish?
>
>What is the best thing to put on it? It gets a good deal of afternoon
>sun and some rain when the wind blows enough so it needs to be
>waterproof and be able to hold up to the sun.

If you refinish it, consider a Sikkens product, I've used the door
product on my double cedar doors, however they are under a 5'
overhang. Sikkens products have far outperformed others on my cedar
siding, fascia, windows, as well as a couple interior products. Bit
more expensive but great coverage. Thompsons Water Seal, Behr's
Liquid Rawhide, any outdoor stain I've tried, all no contest.
Otherwise the Marine Spar Varnish or a properly applied epoxy product
would be my other choices.
Steve Jensen
Abbotsford B.C.
[email protected] chopping out the mortise.
Surfing along at 19200 bps since 95.
BBS'ing since 1982 at 300 bps.
WW'ing since 1985

Nothing catchy to say, well maybe.....
WAKE UP - There are no GODs you fools!

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

26/08/2005 10:18 AM

On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:35:39 -0500, the opaque Patriarch
<[email protected]> clearly wrote:

>Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:25:17 -0500, the opaque "D Steck"
>> <[email protected]> clearly wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Pella fiberglass door that was stained professionally.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Now THERE is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. <g>
>>
>
>Dang it, Larry! Some of us just don't like the natural color of
>fiberglass!

Learning to appreciate the natural color of things, even fiberglass,
is an acquired taste, ya stainy old coot.


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"D Steck"

in reply to User Example on 25/08/2005 4:21 PM

25/08/2005 6:25 PM

I have a Pella fiberglass door that was stained professionally. I was going
to have the guy that stained it use spar varnish but he suggested something
entirely different. The reason why I replaced the door was because the heat
of the sun actually warped my steel door so I can confirm that there is a
lot of sun exposure. The product this guy recommended is from Therma-tru
which is another manufacturer of fiberglass and wood doors. It is a UV
rated acrylic finish that dries very quickly and can be applied with the
door up. It needs to be applied annually but surface prep is easy - just
clean the door with water and a mild soap, rinse and then dry. Only need
one coat every year and he put three coats for a start. We've had one heck
of a sunny summer and I have to say the finish held up perfectly. I've seen
spar varnish turn white in sun like we had this summer so I'm convinced this
stuff is good.

http://www.thermatru.com/support/finishing.shtml

I'm going to contact them to see if I can just get the finish and not the
whole system as I have to recoat my door this year.


"User Example" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a large front wooden front door that has a coating of varnish, I
> believe. At least I think it is varnish, it is reddish brown.
>
> Anyway, the door is about ready to need refinishing. What would be the
> best way to do it? Should I sand it down to wood or just sand the
> existing varnish smooth and refinish?
>
> What is the best thing to put on it? It gets a good deal of afternoon sun
> and some rain when the wind blows enough so it needs to be waterproof and
> be able to hold up to the sun.
>
> Thanks!
> Gary



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