Varnish or poly?

Chevy Chase ain't. . .

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"Bay Area Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> you got me! I'll rephrase it: "all Chevys are VEHICLES, but not all
> VEHICLES are Chevys".
>
> BTW, I'm an F-150 guy. Does that mean we need to arm wrestle??
>
> dave
>
> KS wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >
> >>yes; same as "all Chevys are cars, but not all cars are Chevys"...
> >>
> >
> > Not quite Dave,
> > My Chevy is a Truck, not some damn wimpy car.(leaving a wide exception
> > for muscle cars, both past and present)
> >
>

Varnish is poly and poly is varnish and varnish doesn't have a solvent. So
if alcohol or lacquer thinner doesn't soften it chances are it is either a
varnish or some sort of catalyzed finish.

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"Gerald Lamb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> What is a quick test to tell if a finish is poly or varnish?
> Thank you.Tinker
>
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Gerald Lamb asks:

>What is a quick test to tell if a finish is poly or varnish?

Poly is a varnish. But if it's hard as the devil to sand, then you've probably
got polyurethane varnish, instead of a plain, ol' resin varnish.

Charlie Self
"Health food makes me sick." Calvin Trillin

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Gerald, I thought poly IS a varnish...

dave

Gerald Lamb wrote:

> What is a quick test to tell if a finish is poly or varnish?
> Thank you.Tinker
>
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can't you distinguish good natured bantering from a pissing contest??

dave

Mike G wrote:

> I just knew that someone wouldn't be able to let that one go and have to
> comment on it. I didn't, however, foresee the replies to degrade into a "my
> truck is better then your truck" pissing match.
>

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:41:01 GMT, Chris Merrill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Mike G wrote:
>> Varnish is poly and poly is varnish
>
>You are half wrong:
>
>"Poly is varnish" is correct - polyurethane is one of many different
>types of varnish.
>
>"Varnish is poly" is wrong. see above.




polyurethane wood finishes are a *subset* of varnishes.... as is the
stuff that builds up in the float bowl of a carburetor.....

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Charlie Self) wrote:

> Gerald Lamb asks:
>
> >What is a quick test to tell if a finish is poly or varnish?
>
> Poly is a varnish. But if it's hard as the devil to sand, then you've probably
> got polyurethane varnish, instead of a plain, ol' resin varnish.
>
> Charlie Self
> "Health food makes me sick." Calvin Trillin
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html

Ya know guys, I got very "tired" of reading this banter...<ducking>

I use Flecto-Varithane's "Natural Oil" which is sorta in both camps I
guess. It's the darn best stuff I've ever found for Golden Oak and
refinish. If the finish gets damaged, it's so simple to repair. A bit of
light sanding, and a wipe or two of the oil and it's done.

I've used this stuff by polishing the wood first with 600, then
stain...then polish again *very lightly* just to get any roughness out.
Then a coat of the oil, on the heavy side with a brush and when oil
soaks in I wipe it and let harden for a day or so. Polish with 600
again, tack, and WIPE on a thin coat with paper towels. Let harden and
polish again with 600 and tack, then another think coat with paper
towel...and when you get to that 4-5 coat, it gets this depth and after
that, it's personal taste...if you want to go further. At the end, I hit
it with 600 lightly and wax.

This stuff looks to me sorta like old varnish, but is a poly too.
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Ham

yes; same as "all Chevys are cars, but not all cars are Chevys"...

You go, Chris! :)

dave

Chris Merrill wrote:

> Mike G wrote:
>
>> Varnish is poly and poly is varnish
>
>
> You are half wrong:
>
> "Poly is varnish" is correct - polyurethane is one of many different
> types of varnish.
>
> "Varnish is poly" is wrong. see above.
>
>

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> I was a mechanic for 16 years. No self respecting mechanic would own an
> Escort, or a Pinto, or a Vega. I DID have 2 Chevys. Never again! :)
>
> dave
I still turn a wrench for a living, although not in the consumer
automotive field. I've jokingly said the same thing about my Ford, but
realistically cannot say never.
I just wish that the engineers that design these things would have to
actually work on what they design at least once. Some of the crap they
come up with is just ridiculous.

you got me! I'll rephrase it: "all Chevys are VEHICLES, but not all
VEHICLES are Chevys".

BTW, I'm an F-150 guy. Does that mean we need to arm wrestle??

dave

KS wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>>yes; same as "all Chevys are cars, but not all cars are Chevys"...
>>
>
> Not quite Dave,
> My Chevy is a Truck, not some damn wimpy car.(leaving a wide exception
> for muscle cars, both past and present)
>

KS wrote:

> Nah, my previous truck was a F-150. I've never been too much into the
> Ford vs. Chevy thing. Both have their good and bad points. Now if you
> would of said that your a Ford Escort kinda guy, well... :-)

They're all WUSSY.

My truck is a Peterbilt.

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> you got me! I'll rephrase it: "all Chevys are VEHICLES, but not all
> VEHICLES are Chevys".
>
> BTW, I'm an F-150 guy. Does that mean we need to arm wrestle??
>
> dave

Nah, my previous truck was a F-150. I've never been too much into the
Ford vs. Chevy thing. Both have their good and bad points. Now if you
would of said that your a Ford Escort kinda guy, well... :-)

In article <[email protected]>,
Silvan <[email protected]> wrote:
>KS wrote:
>
>> Nah, my previous truck was a F-150. I've never been too much into the
>> Ford vs. Chevy thing. Both have their good and bad points. Now if you
>> would of said that your a Ford Escort kinda guy, well... :-)
>
>They're all WUSSY.
>
>My truck is a Peterbilt.

Aha! you're an _old_ trucker, aren't you??

"Old truckers never die, they just get a new ..."

Mike G wrote:
> Varnish is poly and poly is varnish

You are half wrong:

"Poly is varnish" is correct - polyurethane is one of many different
types of varnish.

"Varnish is poly" is wrong. see above.


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Thanks for the responce.My understanding was that varathane and
urethane were synthetic resins distant relatives to polyester resins
and epoxy and that oil varnish was a organic resin based on plant
oils.What I was wondering was if there was a simple test like there
is with many other finishes that you could use to tell there apart
without destroying the finish? Thanks again.Tinker
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 02:12:14 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

>Gerald, I thought poly IS a varnish...
>
>dave
>
>Gerald Lamb wrote:
>
>> What is a quick test to tell if a finish is poly or varnish?
>> Thank you.Tinker
>>
>>
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I was a mechanic for 16 years. No self respecting mechanic would own an
Escort, or a Pinto, or a Vega. I DID have 2 Chevys. Never again! :)

dave

KS wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>
>>you got me! I'll rephrase it: "all Chevys are VEHICLES, but not all
>>VEHICLES are Chevys".
>>
>>BTW, I'm an F-150 guy. Does that mean we need to arm wrestle??
>>
>>dave
>
>
> Nah, my previous truck was a F-150. I've never been too much into the
> Ford vs. Chevy thing. Both have their good and bad points. Now if you
> would of said that your a Ford Escort kinda guy, well... :-)

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> yes; same as "all Chevys are cars, but not all cars are Chevys"...
>
Not quite Dave,
My Chevy is a Truck, not some damn wimpy car.(leaving a wide exception
for muscle cars, both past and present)

I just knew that someone wouldn't be able to let that one go and have to
comment on it. I didn't, however, foresee the replies to degrade into a "my
truck is better then your truck" pissing match.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"Bridger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:41:01 GMT, Chris Merrill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Mike G wrote:
> >> Varnish is poly and poly is varnish
> >
> >You are half wrong:
> >
> >"Poly is varnish" is correct - polyurethane is one of many different
> >types of varnish.
> >
> >"Varnish is poly" is wrong. see above.
>
>
>
>
> polyurethane wood finishes are a *subset* of varnishes.... as is the
> stuff that builds up in the float bowl of a carburetor.....