I'm planning to build kitchen cabinets for our house. SWMBO said she wants
the panels of the frame & panel doors to be removable so the new owners
could put in something else if they want.
I have a couple ideas how this can be done but I'm concerned about the
long-term viability of them. The doors to the cereal bowls & coffee get
open & shut a lot. <g>
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
-- Mark
Might have to make the doors a little beefier than normal. Say 7/8"
think as opposed to the usual 3/4".
Treat the wood panels as though they were glass. Make up your frames
as per your shop method, rabbet the back out for the panel, square up
the corners and put in a wooden retainer. Having the frame stock thicker
than normal will give you extra room to get more purchase for your nails.
Not that it is woodworking related nor of any business of anyone but you
two, but why is your wife concerned over the interior decorating tastest
of the next owners of that house?
If they want new panels, it would be cheaper to get whole new doors.
On 2004-01-15, Mark Jerde <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm planning to build kitchen cabinets for our house. SWMBO said she wants
> the panels of the frame & panel doors to be removable so the new owners
> could put in something else if they want.
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Mark Jerde said:
>I'm planning to build kitchen cabinets for our house. SWMBO said she wants
>the panels of the frame & panel doors to be removable so the new owners
>could put in something else if they want.
>
>I have a couple ideas how this can be done but I'm concerned about the
>long-term viability of them. The doors to the cereal bowls & coffee get
>open & shut a lot. <g>
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Not a very helpful suggestion, but I would ignore her request.
IMHO, the changes necessary would reduce the integrity of the
cabinets. No glue and removable frame parts? Cabinets are not
dishwashers...
Greg G.
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> <Greg G.> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Not a very helpful suggestion, but I would ignore her request.
>
> You *OBVIOUSLY* have not met SWMBO! <vbg> Ignore SWMBO? From C.S. Lewis,
> "Your life would be short and your death slow." (1)
Wow, another one pw'ed. Ask HER To build them for that, but that
you're going to build them the right way.
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm planning to build kitchen cabinets for our house. SWMBO said she wants
> the panels of the frame & panel doors to be removable so the new owners
> could put in something else if they want.
>
> I have a couple ideas how this can be done but I'm concerned about the
> long-term viability of them. The doors to the cereal bowls & coffee get
> open & shut a lot. <g>
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> -- Mark
Build them the same way you would if the panels were glass, i.e. use
rabbets instead of slots and then hold the panels in with some trim on
the back. Glass paneled doors hold up well (if the frames are built
well), so why wouldn't these?
Dave Hall
<Greg G.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Not a very helpful suggestion, but I would ignore her request.
You *OBVIOUSLY* have not met SWMBO! <vbg> Ignore SWMBO? From C.S. Lewis,
"Your life would be short and your death slow." (1)
> IMHO, the changes necessary would reduce the integrity of the
> cabinets. No glue and removable frame parts? Cabinets are not
> dishwashers...
I think it might be doable if done right. In standard practice the panel
floats, it's not glued to the frame. People put silicon balls and other
junk in the grooves to stop the rattling. The trick is to make the grooves
in which the panel fits into rabbets that function as strong grooves over
the long term.
-- Mark
(1) "The Horse and His Boy", Chapter VIII.
Mo' Sawdust wrote:
> Not that it is woodworking related nor of any business of anyone but
> you two, but why is your wife concerned over the interior decorating
> tastest of the next owners of that house?
Flexibility. We haven't settled on a style yet. She is leaning towards
"traditional" and I'm favoring "contrasts" and "utility."
For example, we use whiteboards a lot. 4 panels of the garage door have a
piece of whiteboard on them, held in with brads used like glazing points.
Very handy for sketching quick ideas & keeping the shop list of stuff to
buy. There is a large whiteboard in the kitchen that's used for family
messaging, to-do's, shopping lists, etc.
In the remodel the wallspace for the kitchen whiteboard goes away. Yet I'd
like to keep the function, so I'm considering using whiteboard for the
panels of the cabinet doors. With the right color wood frames and
countertop I think it could look ok. SWMBO isn't so sure. Plus whiteboards
in use are never completely clean from the writing and eventually become
"brownboards" and need to be replaced.
And whiteboard panels may suck. <g> I may get them all installed and
decide the look is too "cheesy."
-- Mark
Stephen M wrote:
>>Tell SWMBO her idea is stupid. ...
>>
>>Mike
>
>
> Seriously, Mike is right.
Mike's right, if impudent.
> If the next people don't like the look, they will
> want to change the whole door, if not the whole cabinet. ...
> they would end up changing out the whole door or cabinet anyway.
The new owners dial 1-800-4-MY-HOME®
Ring ....
Hello, Sears cabinet refacing service, may I help you?
If SWMBO want's to make you do the next occupiers of your
home a favor then make a sturdy set of cabinets with
'standard sized' doors and drawers.
Otherwise do what you want.
--
Mark
N.E. Ohio
Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart.
(S. Clemens, A.K.A. Mark Twain)
When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure
ends the suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)
>
> Tell SWMBO her idea is stupid. If the cabinets are of decent quality
> it's easier and probably cheaper for a new owner to just change out
> the doors and drawer fronts. Anyway, if they wants a new look they
> aren't going to want to keep the old frames. Now get a blanket and go
> sleep in the car ;>)
>
> Mike
Seriously, Mike is right. If the next people don't like the look, they will
want to change the whole door, if not the whole cabinet. Since changing out
a panel is not "normal", and the new owner is unlikely to be a
rec.woodworking regular, they would end up changing out the whole door or
cabinet anyway.
Although conscientious, it is unrealistic to think that the next owner would
actually change the panels.
-S
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm planning to build kitchen cabinets for our house. SWMBO said she wants
> the panels of the frame & panel doors to be removable so the new owners
> could put in something else if they want.
>
> I have a couple ideas how this can be done but I'm concerned about the
> long-term viability of them. The doors to the cereal bowls & coffee get
> open & shut a lot. <g>
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> -- Mark
Tell SWMBO her idea is stupid. If the cabinets are of decent quality
it's easier and probably cheaper for a new owner to just change out
the doors and drawer fronts. Anyway, if they wants a new look they
aren't going to want to keep the old frames. Now get a blanket and go
sleep in the car ;>)
Mike
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm planning to build kitchen cabinets for our house. SWMBO said she
wants
> the panels of the frame & panel doors to be removable so the new owners
> could put in something else if they want.
>
> I have a couple ideas how this can be done but I'm concerned about the
> long-term viability of them. The doors to the cereal bowls & coffee get
> open & shut a lot. <g>
>
Why on earth would anyone want to replace the panels? Isn't one panel going
to look pretty much like the next one?
It is the frame that gets worn and has the design.