"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
Try soaping your screws first. If that doesn't help, then you're going to
have to drill pilot holes.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Are you using the ACTUAL FACE FRAME screws. These self tap and I have
never
> seen one split wood.
Geez..... Face Frame Screws.... What are those....???
Pocket Hole Screws. These don't split wood even if you don't use them in a
pocket hole.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message >
> Talking to yourself again, Leon?
>
> ;>)
and Answering.... Yup ,, Uh huh ,,Yes I am..... LOL
Dowels
Dave
"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
>
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"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
Pocket Holes?
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I say again, dowels. I've never had any wood split using them.
Dave
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 05 May 2004 19:39:17 GMT, Leon <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >
> > "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message .
> >>
> >> That's what I was thinking. The step drill that is used by the Kreg
jig
> >> and others does a decent job of pre-drilling for the screw, which might
> >> take care of this problem for him.
> >
> > Sorta correct or uh half correct... The Kreg bit pre-drills only one
board
> > and the function of the thin part of the bit on the end is not to
prevent
> > the screw from splitting the wood.
>
> Good point. Of course, I know this, but um, yeah.
>
> > Its intended purpose is to prevent the
> > screw from threading into the first board. This prevents a gap from
forming
> > and not close between the 2 pieces of wood. The Screw uses no
predrilled
> > hole in the second piece of wood as it is self tapping.
>
> I guess it depends on which piece is splitting. I've had cherry
faceframes
> split, even though I'm using actual Kreg screws, and I can see hickory
> doing the same. If the second piece is the one that's cracking, I'm
> not coming up with any ideas. If it's teh part where the pocket is
> made, back off on the clutch a lot.
>
> Dave Hinz
>
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On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:20:58 -0700, "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
>is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=1732
Thank you. I will try your advice
"Alan Bierbaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 6 May 2004 08:48:01 -0700, "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Thank you for the replies.I should have been more specific. I am using a
> >pocket hole jig and 1-1/2 in. pocket hole screws. The split appears in
the
> >stile.
> >"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:uYZlc.17666$ph.9091@fed1read07...
> >> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The
wood
> >> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> I have run into this doing kitchen remodel work. Hickory seems to
> split if you try to drive a screw within about 2" from the end of the
> stile. I just cut new pieces when it happens and try to keep screws
> as far as possible from the end. You could try to drill a pilot hole
> in the stile by clamping the assembly and using the rail holes as a
> guide, use dowels or biscuits, or M&T joints. Hickory is not a
> friendly wood to use with pocket hole assembly.
>
> Alan Bierbaum
>
> web site: http://www.calanb.com
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message .
> >
> > Pocket Holes?
>
> That's what I was thinking. The step drill that is used by the Kreg jig
> and others does a decent job of pre-drilling for the screw, which might
> take care of this problem for him. Hickory isn't the easiest wood to
> work with, but it sure looks nice.
Sorta correct or uh half correct... The Kreg bit pre-drills only one board
and the function of the thin part of the bit on the end is not to prevent
the screw from splitting the wood. Its intended purpose is to prevent the
screw from threading into the first board. This prevents a gap from forming
and not close between the 2 pieces of wood. The Screw uses no predrilled
hole in the second piece of wood as it is self tapping.
"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I guess it depends on which piece is splitting. I've had cherry
faceframes
> split, even though I'm using actual Kreg screws, and I can see hickory
> doing the same.
Humm I'll keep that in mind... I have never had Oak, Maple, Walnut,
Mahogany, Poplar, or SYP split using the properly threaded Kreg screw.
If the second piece is the one that's cracking, I'm
> not coming up with any ideas. If it's teh part where the pocket is
> made, back off on the clutch a lot.
Perhaps he is using a standard screw.
Thank you for the replies.I should have been more specific. I am using a
pocket hole jig and 1-1/2 in. pocket hole screws. The split appears in the
stile.
"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
>
Hi Leon
I'd have to disagree on one certain point. If one places the pocket hole so
the screw is situated too close to an end of the stock you are screwing
into you're almost certain to get a split. There just isn't enough wood
around the screw to prevent it.
But, otherwise I agree. I've seen little of the problem using pocket hole
specific screws.
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Mike G.
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Heirloom Woods
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Are you using the ACTUAL FACE FRAME screws. These self tap and I have
never
> seen one split wood.
>
>
> "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:uYZlc.17666$ph.9091@fed1read07...
> > I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The
wood
> > is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
>
>
On Wed, 5 May 2004 16:25:16 +1000, SawEyes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:uYZlc.17666$ph.9091@fed1read07...
>> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
>> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
> Pocket Holes?
That's what I was thinking. The step drill that is used by the Kreg jig
and others does a decent job of pre-drilling for the screw, which might
take care of this problem for him. Hickory isn't the easiest wood to
work with, but it sure looks nice.
On Wed, 05 May 2004 19:39:17 GMT, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message .
>>
>> That's what I was thinking. The step drill that is used by the Kreg jig
>> and others does a decent job of pre-drilling for the screw, which might
>> take care of this problem for him.
>
> Sorta correct or uh half correct... The Kreg bit pre-drills only one board
> and the function of the thin part of the bit on the end is not to prevent
> the screw from splitting the wood.
Good point. Of course, I know this, but um, yeah.
> Its intended purpose is to prevent the
> screw from threading into the first board. This prevents a gap from forming
> and not close between the 2 pieces of wood. The Screw uses no predrilled
> hole in the second piece of wood as it is self tapping.
I guess it depends on which piece is splitting. I've had cherry faceframes
split, even though I'm using actual Kreg screws, and I can see hickory
doing the same. If the second piece is the one that's cracking, I'm
not coming up with any ideas. If it's teh part where the pocket is
made, back off on the clutch a lot.
Dave Hinz
On Tue, 4 May 2004 21:20:58 -0700, "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
>is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
What kind of screws are you using?
I've found that Kreg screws used in pocket holes don't split the wood.
Barry
Are you using the ACTUAL FACE FRAME screws. These self tap and I have never
seen one split wood.
"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:uYZlc.17666$ph.9091@fed1read07...
> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
>
Not enough information.
Are you making pocket holes, are you using a power driver, are you screwing
from the rail to stile or stile to rail, what size screw are you using?
--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:uYZlc.17666$ph.9091@fed1read07...
> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>
>
On Thu, 6 May 2004 08:48:01 -0700, "1ko" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thank you for the replies.I should have been more specific. I am using a
>pocket hole jig and 1-1/2 in. pocket hole screws. The split appears in the
>stile.
>"1ko" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:uYZlc.17666$ph.9091@fed1read07...
>> I have a problem screwing my faceframes together.The wood splits. The wood
>> is hickory.Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>
I have run into this doing kitchen remodel work. Hickory seems to
split if you try to drive a screw within about 2" from the end of the
stile. I just cut new pieces when it happens and try to keep screws
as far as possible from the end. You could try to drill a pilot hole
in the stile by clamping the assembly and using the rail holes as a
guide, use dowels or biscuits, or M&T joints. Hickory is not a
friendly wood to use with pocket hole assembly.
Alan Bierbaum
web site: http://www.calanb.com
"Leon" wrote in message ...
>
> "Leon" wrote in message
> > Are you using the ACTUAL FACE FRAME screws. These self tap and I have
> never
> > seen one split wood.
>
>
>
> Geez..... Face Frame Screws.... What are those....???
>
>
> Pocket Hole Screws. These don't split wood even if you don't use them in
a
> pocket hole.
Talking to yourself again, Leon?
;>)
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