jJ

[email protected] (Jay Chan)

13/05/2004 9:34 AM

Make Painted Door Look Like Stained Wood Door?

I have just received a painted solid core door to replace a stained
wood-faced hollow core door. But the grey-brown paint on the solid
core door doesn't match the wood stain on the casing and the trims in
the room. Moreover, that grey-brown color is ugly. The dark brown
color in the original wood stain looks much nicer and has more depth.
What's the way to paint over it to match the color to the original
wood stain as close as possible?

If the painting technique is too difficult to get right, what is the
way to convert a hollow core door into a solid core door?

Thanks.


This topic has 9 replies

jJ

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

13/05/2004 6:20 PM

[email protected] (Jay Chan) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I have just received a painted solid core door to replace a stained
> wood-faced hollow core door. But the grey-brown paint on the solid
> core door doesn't match the wood stain on the casing and the trims in
> the room. Moreover, that grey-brown color is ugly. The dark brown
> color in the original wood stain looks much nicer and has more depth.
> What's the way to paint over it to match the color to the original
> wood stain as close as possible?
>
> If the painting technique is too difficult to get right, what is the
> way to convert a hollow core door into a solid core door?
>
> Thanks.

I think the best way to convert to solid core is to take all of your
sawdust, mixt it with glue, and use a cajun injector to fill in the
voids.

On a serious note, if you want to simulate the wood grain, you can use
the technique described here:

http://www.diynet.com/diy/cr_boxes/article/0,2025,DIY_13747_2268343,00.html

Please note that I'm not condoning this. Please note that this is
coming from one of those "Craft" shows on DIY. Personally, if it were
me and I bought the door, I'd return it. If it was a freebie, I would
buy a belt sander and go to town to get down to the wood grain.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

13/05/2004 6:18 PM

Don't paint it.... Gel stain it... the gel stain will just
"sit there" and do very little staining but when dried, will
resemble the "stained look" you had earlier.

The only way to convert is called "new purchase"....


Jay Chan wrote:
>
> What's the way to paint over it to match the color to the original
> wood stain as close as possible?
>
> If the painting technique is too difficult to get right, what is the
> way to convert a hollow core door into a solid core door?
>
> Thanks.

Jj

JeffB

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

13/05/2004 7:36 PM

Strip off the paint? Then you take a chance on what's underneath. Or you could
try a "fake" graining technique as in http://www.ugl.com/H2Staingrainframe.html

The tool is readily available, but apparently it takes some practice...

JeffB

Jay Chan wrote:

> I have just received a painted solid core door to replace a stained
> wood-faced hollow core door. But the grey-brown paint on the solid
> core door doesn't match the wood stain on the casing and the trims in
> the room. Moreover, that grey-brown color is ugly. The dark brown
> color in the original wood stain looks much nicer and has more depth.
> What's the way to paint over it to match the color to the original
> wood stain as close as possible?
>
> If the painting technique is too difficult to get right, what is the
> way to convert a hollow core door into a solid core door?
>
> Thanks.

jJ

[email protected] (Jay Chan)

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

14/05/2004 7:01 PM

Thanks for all the responses I have received.

Seem like I cannot convert a hallow core door into solid, and the
paint-a-wood-grain idea is iffy. Moreover the painted door has already
come with fake wood grain on it. But I "may" be able to put stain gel
on it. I will have to investigate on the use of stain gel.

Jay Chan

jJ

[email protected] (Jay Chan)

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

20/05/2004 5:37 AM

> if the fake wood grainon it now is embossed into the surface you maybe
> able to use it to do an interesting 2 color effect. pick 2 colors of
> paint that work with the color scheme of the room's trim. the colors
> should be not TOO different from each other...
>
> paint the door with the darker color, making sure to get good coverage
> down in all of the nooks and crannies. thin the lighter color and
> apply it lightly with a sponge

Thanks for the idea of taking advantage of the existing fake wood
grain on the painted door. I will see how this works as comparing with
the use of stain gel.

Jay Chan

jJ

[email protected] (Jay Chan)

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

20/05/2004 5:42 AM

> The keyword you're looking for is "faux". There are faux techniques for
> woodgraining--how convincing they are depends on how skilled the painter
> is. Since you're never done it before, odds are that you're not going to
> be very convincing.

I understand what you meant. I just saw a TV show called "This Old
Hourse Classic" that has a pro using various technique with regular
tools to get a very good looking wood grain effect on a metal door.
This looks very like an artistic work than a DIY project. Moreover, my
painted door already comes with fake wood grain. That artistic
technique is not going to work on the existing fake wood grain. I will
have to experiment with stain gel and the use of the two-colors
approach.

Thanks anyway.

Jay Chan

FM

"Frank McVey"

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

13/05/2004 8:07 PM

Hi, Jay,

You can buy wood-graining kits which attempt to simulate woodgrain.
Normally these consist of the background colour, a grain colour, and a
special tool for applying the grain effect while the grain coat is still
wet. In my experience they are completely unconvincing and look crap.

I'd say that you'd be better off veneering the door, if you want it to look
like wood.

You can't convert a hollow cored door to a solid core. Not easily, anyway!

Cheers

Frank


"Jay Chan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have just received a painted solid core door to replace a stained
> wood-faced hollow core door. But the grey-brown paint on the solid
> core door doesn't match the wood stain on the casing and the trims in
> the room. Moreover, that grey-brown color is ugly. The dark brown
> color in the original wood stain looks much nicer and has more depth.
> What's the way to paint over it to match the color to the original
> wood stain as close as possible?
>
> If the painting technique is too difficult to get right, what is the
> way to convert a hollow core door into a solid core door?
>
> Thanks.


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"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

19/05/2004 7:21 PM

Jay Chan wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses I have received.
>
> Seem like I cannot convert a hallow core door into solid, and the
> paint-a-wood-grain idea is iffy. Moreover the painted door has already
> come with fake wood grain on it. But I "may" be able to put stain gel
> on it. I will have to investigate on the use of stain gel.

The keyword you're looking for is "faux". There are faux techniques for
woodgraining--how convincing they are depends on how skilled the painter
is. Since you're never done it before, odds are that you're not going to
be very convincing.

> Jay Chan

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b

in reply to [email protected] (Jay Chan) on 13/05/2004 9:34 AM

15/05/2004 12:36 PM

On 14 May 2004 19:01:11 -0700, [email protected] (Jay Chan) wrote:

>Thanks for all the responses I have received.
>
>Seem like I cannot convert a hallow core door into solid, and the
>paint-a-wood-grain idea is iffy. Moreover the painted door has already
>come with fake wood grain on it. But I "may" be able to put stain gel
>on it. I will have to investigate on the use of stain gel.
>
>Jay Chan


if the fake wood grainon it now is embossed into the surface you maybe
able to use it to do an interesting 2 color effect. pick 2 colors of
paint that work with the color scheme of the room's trim. the colors
should be not TOO different from each other...

paint the door with the darker color, making sure to get good coverage
down in all of the nooks and crannies. thin the lighter color and
apply it lightly with a sponge


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