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"john moorhead"

13/01/2004 1:56 AM

query about Gorilla Glue & biscuits

Folks -

Can I use Gorilla Glue with biscuits? I know the biscuits swell with water
and the GG reacts with moisture, but it cleans up with mineral spirits....
so while I know it will *work*, will it make the biscuits swell? Or should
I just rely on the biscuits for alignment and not bother gluing them? This
is for a cutting board.

Thanks in advance!

John Moorhead


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Mark

in reply to "john moorhead" on 13/01/2004 1:56 AM

13/01/2004 5:47 AM

John,
I made a picnic table last summer from cedar using biscuits and
Gorilla Glue. It's been outside in the elements (hot summer and cold
snowy winter) uncovered and no problems at all. Just don't wait too long
after you wet the stock, cuz the biscuits will swell a certain amount.
But nothing that should hinder the glue-up process. Mark

john moorhead wrote:
> Folks -
>
> Can I use Gorilla Glue with biscuits? I know the biscuits swell with water
> and the GG reacts with moisture, but it cleans up with mineral spirits....
> so while I know it will *work*, will it make the biscuits swell? Or should
> I just rely on the biscuits for alignment and not bother gluing them? This
> is for a cutting board.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> John Moorhead
>
>

RH

"Roland Hart"

in reply to "john moorhead" on 13/01/2004 1:56 AM

12/01/2004 10:09 PM

Funny, I just did this for the first time. Very new WW here.

I glued up a 20" wide panel using 3 boards of true 1/2" red oak. From other
advice I got here and other spots this is what I did.
I used #0 bisquits every 6" - 8" along the 30" long panel, 5 total per
edge. I put water on both sides of the red oak and also in the bisquit
holes, applied Gorilla Glue to one side and then applied gorilla glue to
both sides of the bisquit and then assembled the 2 boards together but not
all the way yet, don't touch the two pieces together yet. I then repeated
the process for the next joint. I used a couple of cauls that had shipping
tape applied to them and the gorilla glue didn't stick to the shipping tape.
A tip I got from this newsgroup. Once the cauls were tight, I then squezed
the boards together with a pipe clamps. This was Saturday morning that I did
the glue up. There are no signs of cracking from the swelling. I only left
the panel in the clamps for a couple of hours and then leaned it up against
a wall to dry for a day before rough sanding. I then moved onto gluing up
the next panel, 6 total.

The bisquits worked great for keeping the boards alligned, the caul worked
great for keeping the assembly of boards flat, and so far the gorilla glue
is working great to keep everything together.


Roland


"john moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:QeIMb.37854$I06.247184@attbi_s01...
> Folks -
>
> Can I use Gorilla Glue with biscuits? I know the biscuits swell with
water
> and the GG reacts with moisture, but it cleans up with mineral spirits....
> so while I know it will *work*, will it make the biscuits swell? Or
should
> I just rely on the biscuits for alignment and not bother gluing them?
This
> is for a cutting board.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> John Moorhead
>
>

lL

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman)

in reply to "john moorhead" on 13/01/2004 1:56 AM

13/01/2004 9:44 PM

In article <QeIMb.37854$I06.247184@attbi_s01>,
john moorhead <[email protected]> wrote:
>Folks -
>
>Can I use Gorilla Glue with biscuits? I know the biscuits swell with water
>and the GG reacts with moisture, but it cleans up with mineral spirits....
>so while I know it will *work*, will it make the biscuits swell? Or should
>I just rely on the biscuits for alignment and not bother gluing them? This
>is for a cutting board.
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>John Moorhead
>
>

I've used biscuits and poly glue for a few outdoor projects. What I
did was glue normally (along surface and in slot) and just give the
biscuits a quick dip in water before inserting them. Seems like a
cutting board is a pretty simple glue-up so it should work OK for
that. If it was something more complicated another strategy might be
needed. I can't really say if the biscuits swelled or not but some of
these projects are now 4 or 5 years old and there have been no joint
failures. Besides, on a typical cutting board, you don't really need
biscuits anyway.


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

TC

Tim Carver

in reply to "john moorhead" on 13/01/2004 1:56 AM

13/01/2004 5:20 AM

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:56:00 GMT, "john moorhead"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Folks -
>
>Can I use Gorilla Glue with biscuits? I know the biscuits swell with water
>and the GG reacts with moisture, but it cleans up with mineral spirits....
>so while I know it will *work*, will it make the biscuits swell? Or should
>I just rely on the biscuits for alignment and not bother gluing them? This
>is for a cutting board.
>
I used poly glue to biscuit together an outdoor project (a porch stoop
cover made of Cambarra) and it worked great. The stuff I used was a
poly construction glue, which swells and foams like crazy. Did it
make the biscuits swell? Probably, but I'm not sure what harm that
would have done - everything was clamped well, and it all stayed nice
and flat and square. And the stuff has held up very well so far; it's
been outdoors in the Oregon winter rain for several months with no ill
effects.


Tim Carver
[email protected]

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to Tim Carver on 13/01/2004 5:20 AM

13/01/2004 11:03 AM

Tim Carver writes:

>he stuff I used was a
>poly construction glue, which swells and foams like crazy. Did it
>make the biscuits swell? Probably, but I'm not sure what harm that
>would have done - everything was clamped well, and it all stayed nice
>and flat and square.

Probably not, because the glue draws water off for its own cure, though not a
lot. Biscuits are designed to swell, which is why a super-tight fit is not a
great idea.

Charlie Self
If God had wanted me to touch my toes he would have put them higher on my body.

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