I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
Frank
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:55:14 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Were it not for the reality of 32-34" height cabinets, which, less the
>toekicks, still come to more than 24 high in the door, I'd agree.
Point well taken. My usage thus far has always been for smaller work,
which naturally biases my needs and experience in the 24" area.
>I ended up buying the 31's _after_ the 24's.
When I next get in the clamp buying mode, I'll give the 31s some
thought. Since I already have 34 K-Bodies, that won't be soon, sad to
say.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:46:28 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
>I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
>think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
>start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
>just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
I have an article on my webpage on buying K-Bodies (I think it's
hidden in the Tool Picx area which is under Shop Tour).
The vast majority of my K-Bodies are 24s. I don't have any 31s. I've
never felt the need for 31s. I made a mistake starting out with 40s,
thinking that "I can always clamp smaller but I can't clamp bigger."
Big mistake. Clamping small things with too-big clamps will have you
on the phone ordering newer, shorter clamps very quickly.
The 40s have uses, however, and I've added several to the collection
once I acquired some more 24s. I also have a couple of 50s, which are
handy. It's all a matter of time and money. Over time you will have
more and more clamps and less and less money.
I recommend starting out with 4 24s, if you're going to buy four. And
you are already on the right track buying even numbers. Clamps must
always be bought in pairs. It upsets the balance of the universe to
have an uneven number of clamps.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
I'll second that!!!!
If anyone wants to get rid of those nasty quick grip clamps you find
cluttering your shop, send them to me - I'll even pay for shipping!!!
; )
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:01:10 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Swingman wrote:
>
>> I dislike "QuikGrips" of any brand, but particularly Craftsman. The
>> Craftsman were given to me as a gift and I've been looking for an enemy to
>> present them to ever since.
>
>Send them to me! I have a bunch of those things, use them often, like them
>very much, and don't care what anyone else thinks.
Hi Frank,
To start I would get 2 of each size. (I did). I use the 24s more than the 31s
but when I buy more I will probably get 2 more of each size. Cheers, JG
Frank Ketchum wrote:
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
> Frank
Were it not for the reality of 32-34" height cabinets, which, less the
toekicks, still come to more than 24 high in the door, I'd agree.
I ended up buying the 31's _after_ the 24's.
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The vast majority of my K-Bodies are 24s. I don't have any 31s. I've
> never felt the need for 31s. I made a mistake starting out with 40s,
> thinking that "I can always clamp smaller but I can't clamp bigger."
> Big mistake. Clamping small things with too-big clamps will have you
> on the phone ordering newer, shorter clamps very quickly.
>
> The 40s have uses, however, and I've added several to the collection
> once I acquired some more 24s. I also have a couple of 50s, which are
> handy. It's all a matter of time and money. Over time you will have
> more and more clamps and less and less money.
Hello,
I just got 4...Bessy clamps..40" as Xmas
presents.......cool...wanted to replace my pipe clamps.....they are heavy,
but should work well, i have a lot of Quick clamps.....might get some 24"
Bessy`s down the road......always have use for clamps.....buy in pairs
though...
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8%[email protected]...
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers
(i
> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should
I
> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
> Frank
>
>
Look at the Gross Stabil clamps as well as the Bessy's. I have both,
and I definitely like the GS clamps BETTER than the Bessy's, but both
are good clamps. Just the GS have more jaw surface area, and are
rated to produce MORE total clamping pressure than than the Bessy's,
as well as being a tad LESS expensive, and if you really need it,
comes a longer max length than the Bessy's
John
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 00:24:43 GMT, Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'm always reaching for the ones that I don't have. Seriously, I've got
>short ones, medium ones, long, and longer, and NEVER seem to have enough
>of whatever my current project requires. I'll be picking up some more
>this coming week, and will undoubtedly need to buy some more in the not
>too distant future. They are expensive, but, man you gotta love 'em!
>
>dave
>
>Frank Ketchum wrote:
>
>> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
>> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
>> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
>> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
>> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
I've got two 52s (lack of apostrophe for Charlie's sake), four (approx.) 40s
and six 31s. I'm on the hunt for a deal on 24s and hope to pick up at least
four of them. I realize the 31s will do everything the 24s will do, but
interestingly enough, I'm always bothered by the weight of them. When box
building, there are often times you want to nudge a clamp this way or that,
but when the clamp outweighs the box by a factor of several, it gets
awkward. For this reason I keep several sets of cheap light aluminium bar
clamps, but their accuracy just isn't there. I'm also planning on building a
set of clamp block similar to the ones Bessey offers. These too will be for
use in box building and will allow me to "build" a frame of clamps pre-set
to the appropriate dimensions into which I can put the box after the
glue-up.
Good luck
Rob
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"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8%[email protected]...
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers
(i
> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should
I
> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
> Frank
>
>
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:32:59 -0700, Bridger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>then along came the quick grip and their clones. I played with them a
>bit and hated them. big clunky squeeze mechanism that maxes out at
>about half the pressure of the jorgies. they have been heavily
>advertised and have made considerable inroads in the market despite
>being basically POS. they have that gee whiz gadgety feel that just
>screams JUNK
>
Sorry, but I like the quick grips. They're expensive and I agree that
they don't give nearly the same pressure, but for speed, you can't
beat them. I have 2 "micro" (I use these for adjusting bicycle brake
calipers, not wooddorking) two 12", two 18", and two 30".
I like them most for clamping stock to a workbench, drill press,
table saw sliding table, etc. The 12 inchers have the smaller
clamping mechanism which make them very easy to handle. For glue-up
they're ok, though I can "pair" them into a double length clamp.
Since they are so quick to engage, I can take the 18" and the 30" and
get them to clamp 48". When gluing, I rely on other clamps in
addition to the quick grips.
Just my 0.02
Swingman wrote:
> I dislike "QuikGrips" of any brand, but particularly Craftsman. The
> Craftsman were given to me as a gift and I've been looking for an enemy to
> present them to ever since.
Send them to me! I have a bunch of those things, use them often, like them
very much, and don't care what anyone else thinks.
--
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 10:16:42 -0600, John Crea <[email protected]>
wrote:
Geez, this is like the Cabinet Master war.
>Look at the Gross Stabil clamps as well as the Bessy's. I have both,
>and I definitely like the GS clamps BETTER than the Bessy's, but both
>are good clamps. Just the GS have more jaw surface area,
Do you NEED more jaw surface area? I've never found the K-Bodies
lacking in that.
>and are rated to produce MORE total clamping pressure than than the Bessy's,
Do you NEED more total clamping pressure (whatever that is)? I've
never found the K-Bodies lacking in that, either.
>as well as being a tad LESS expensive,
What? A dollar or two per clamp less? I have 34 K-Bodies. I spent
about a grand on them. $30-50 less over several years isn't enough to
make a buying decision on.
>and if you really need it, comes a longer max length than the Bessy's.
Well, I know for a fact that Bessey makes a 96" K-Body. A friend of
mine has a pair. Are you saying GS makes a longer one than that? And
even if they do, is that a reason to buy GS 24s vs K-Body 24s?
Citing factors that are different but have no particular advantage
doesn't make one product *better* than another.
LRod
Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 00:17:24 -0500, Yitah <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm not sure which jorgies you're referring to, but I've used a
>friends set, and having to turn a screw is not as fast as squeezing a
>grip. Also, they're very clumsy to adjust with one hand.
>
>
>BTW - I misspoke, the ones I use the most are 6". I use these to
>clamp work to a bench for sanding, drilling etc....
>
>Yitah
there's a grip where you can operate the sliding head either direction
with your thumb while holding the bar. works fine for me.
Bridger
"Terry Sumner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I've used bith the Gross Stabiles and the Bessey K-Bodies and I'll
> reach for the Besseys every time.
> Terry Sumner
I recently bought a pair of the lighter UniKlamps. For smaller sizes and
lighter work, they seem to be the best of both worlds. Good quality at a
better price. They won't replace the standard size for big work, but these
are very handy in the right place.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8%[email protected]...
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers
(i
> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should
I
> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
> Frank
Depends on what you build.
I use the 24's more than the 31's, but at times you need the larger ones.
While a 31 can do anything a 24 can do, it can be heavy and awkward at times
also. I just got two more 24's though.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
Bridger wrote:
> then along came the quick grip and their clones. I played with them a
> bit and hated them. big clunky squeeze mechanism that maxes out at
> about half the pressure of the jorgies. they have been heavily
> advertised and have made considerable inroads in the market despite
> being basically POS. they have that gee whiz gadgety feel that just
> screams JUNK
They're no good for squeezing glue, agreed. But they're really handy for
just holding something down on my sanding table / workbench. Usually the
clamp of first choice then because of their one-hand operation Occasionally
the spreader feature is a godsend.
-- Mark
"John Crea" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Look at the Gross Stabil clamps as well as the Bessy's. I have both,
> and I definitely like the GS clamps BETTER than the Bessy's, but both
> are good clamps.
=========== ============== ========
I might as well jump in here also.... I have been using Bessy's for a long
tme and actually went out and bought a few of the GS's last year...and gave
them a darn good workout ...
I still reach for the Bessy's most of the time..
BUT
I could, and would, be happy to be "stuck" with either.
The Bessy's just work a little better for me...maybe it is because I think I
have mastered the method needed to close them...prior appling pressure.. I
still have to fight\
with the GS's ...but I figure that will go away shortly as I get used to
them...
Bob Griffiths
"Larry C in Auburn, WA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Y3BKb.237240$8y1.1071459@attbi_s52...
> I don't have either (damn!), but there was a recent article comparing them
> along with the Jorgensen's in a recent mag. They recommended the Gross
> Stabils over the Bessey's and Jorgensen's FWIW.
> --
> Larry C in Auburn, WA
============== ============
I read that article (more then once btw) and as I have already stated in an
earlier post in this threat I own and use both the Bessy and the Gross
Stabils ..
Personally I see absolutely no "GOOD" reason they picked the GS's over the
Bessy's except that you can order individual parts for the GS's and that
they are a buck or two cheaper.....
I do agree with the article that any of them are DAMN good clamps... If I
need a few more I will most likely buy more Bessy's unless the price
difference is a factor.
(I'm retired, and my wallet is always thin the last week of the month when
compared to the first week..)
Bob Griffiths
I dislike "QuikGrips" of any brand, but particularly Craftsman. The
Craftsman were given to me as a gift and I've been looking for an enemy to
present them to ever since.
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Last update: 1/02/04
"Bridger" wrote in message
>
> I can too. I've used both and the quick grips are no faster than the
> jorgies.
I don't have either (damn!), but there was a recent article comparing them
along with the Jorgensen's in a recent mag. They recommended the Gross
Stabils over the Bessey's and Jorgensen's FWIW.
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"Jay Pique" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:22:10 GMT, TomL <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> snip
> >I'll offer some advice and suggest you
> >look into the Gross Stabils. As good as, if not better than the
> >Besseys and a lot cheaper if you purchase here:
> >
> >http://www.allprotools.com/store/page120.html
> >
> >The 4+price is a substatial savings over any Bessey prices I've found.
>
> That price looks good if you're looking for k-body quality - but what
> makes the Gross Stabils possibly better than the Bessey's? Anyone
> else have any opinions? I own neither, but I'm curious.
>
> Thanks.
> JP
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:46:28 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
>
> I have an article on my webpage on buying K-Bodies (I think it's
> hidden in the Tool Picx area which is under Shop Tour).
>
>
Thanks Rod. I will probably take your advice and start with 4-24 inchers.
Hey, you need to update your portion of the website that deals with
telemarketers. If you or anyone hasn't signed up for the national do not
call registry, do it! It's easy to do and it works.
www.donotcall.gov
Frank
LRod <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Geez, this is like the Cabinet Master war.
<snip>
The only person I've seen turning clamp preferences into a "war" is
you. Why is that?
Cheers,
Mike
I'm always reaching for the ones that I don't have. Seriously, I've got
short ones, medium ones, long, and longer, and NEVER seem to have enough
of whatever my current project requires. I'll be picking up some more
this coming week, and will undoubtedly need to buy some more in the not
too distant future. They are expensive, but, man you gotta love 'em!
dave
Frank Ketchum wrote:
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
> Frank
>
>
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8%[email protected]...
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers
(i
I own about a dozen Besseys and I must be the odd man out because I own more
31's then 24's...just a little heaver
BUT just as easy to use... If these things sold for 10 bucks each I would
have a dozen of each size..
Bob Griffiths
I've been watching the evolution of the bar clamp with considerable
interest.
most of the old ones (the ones that predate me ; ^ > ) are very
heavy, solid things. a lot of them are cast iron. for the right
application they seem like they would be a dream to use, but for most
of my work they're too heavy. I would like to have some, though.
the ones I like the best so far are the jorgensen 37xx and 39xx
series. they are light enough that I don't usually have to worry too
much about the weight of the clamp as a factor in an assembly. they
are relatively cheap and easy to operate
then along came the quick grip and their clones. I played with them a
bit and hated them. big clunky squeeze mechanism that maxes out at
about half the pressure of the jorgies. they have been heavily
advertised and have made considerable inroads in the market despite
being basically POS. they have that gee whiz gadgety feel that just
screams JUNK
now we are seeing some real engineering coming from across the pond.
although these clamps seem to me to be overkill and a bit oversize for
the smaller lenghts, they look like they will be a good thing in sizes
over 3 ft. not surprisingly, they're pretty expensive in those sizes.
Bridger
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 01:27:22 GMT, TomL <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 12:43:29 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>>The 4+price is a substatial savings over any Bessey prices I've found.
>>
>>That price looks good if you're looking for k-body quality - but what
>>makes the Gross Stabils possibly better than the Bessey's? Anyone
>>else have any opinions? I own neither, but I'm curious.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>JP
>
>I prefer the larger handles and the greater clamping surface of the
>Gross Stabils.
>You won't go wrong in choosing either the Besseys or the Gross
>Stabils.
>
>TomL
Bob
Would not turn down any FREE Besseys if they came my way, and I AM NOT
getting rid of my Bessey's, but I AM buying Gross Stabil when I buy
new parallel clamps - and it IS personal preference and not any earth
shatteriing major BETTER or WORSE of the two brands.
John
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:37:37 GMT, "Bob G" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"John Crea" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Look at the Gross Stabil clamps as well as the Bessy's. I have both,
>> and I definitely like the GS clamps BETTER than the Bessy's, but both
>> are good clamps.
>
>=========== ============== ========
>I might as well jump in here also.... I have been using Bessy's for a long
>tme and actually went out and bought a few of the GS's last year...and gave
>them a darn good workout ...
>
>I still reach for the Bessy's most of the time..
> BUT
>I could, and would, be happy to be "stuck" with either.
>
>The Bessy's just work a little better for me...maybe it is because I think I
>have mastered the method needed to close them...prior appling pressure.. I
>still have to fight\
>with the GS's ...but I figure that will go away shortly as I get used to
>them...
>
>Bob Griffiths
>
>
>
>
I don't find the 30 something inchers to be any more cumbersome than
the 24 inchers. As Ed said, 30 somethings can do whatever a 24 incher
can do and a bit more. However, I'll offer some advice and suggest you
look into the Gross Stabils. As good as, if not better than the
Besseys and a lot cheaper if you purchase here:
http://www.allprotools.com/store/page120.html
The 4+price is a substatial savings over any Bessey prices I've found.
TomL
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:46:28 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
>I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
>think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
>start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
>just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
>Frank
>
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:46:28 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
>I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers (i
>think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
>start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should I
>just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
>Frank
>
These sizes you mentioned is what I have. Very useful. I use the 24"
more than the 31". My next two Bessys will be smaller than 24".
When I need a longer than 31" I use the Pony pipe clamps, but that's
not too often. Depends on what you make.
"Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:8%[email protected]...
> I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near future.
> I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers
(i
> think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few to
> start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most? Should
I
> just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
>
> Frank
I got what they call the cabinetmaker's kit, or something like that. Anyway
it was 2-24" and 2-40" and the KP blocks which hold the clamps for
doormaking. I later picked up 2-50" clamps. I find that I use all three
sizes about equally, but I'd like to get four to six more in the 31" and 24"
sizes.
Jon E
Everyone has their opinion, right? Evidently John found the items he
mentioned to be advantages, not differences. You find them to be
differences, not advantages. Sounds like you're both right. A recent mag
article picked the Gross Stabil's over the Bessy's too FWIW.
--
Larry C in Auburn, WA
"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 10:16:42 -0600, John Crea <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Geez, this is like the Cabinet Master war.
>
> >Look at the Gross Stabil clamps as well as the Bessy's. I have both,
> >and I definitely like the GS clamps BETTER than the Bessy's, but both
> >are good clamps. Just the GS have more jaw surface area,
>
> Do you NEED more jaw surface area? I've never found the K-Bodies
> lacking in that.
>
> >and are rated to produce MORE total clamping pressure than than the
Bessy's,
>
> Do you NEED more total clamping pressure (whatever that is)? I've
> never found the K-Bodies lacking in that, either.
>
> >as well as being a tad LESS expensive,
>
> What? A dollar or two per clamp less? I have 34 K-Bodies. I spent
> about a grand on them. $30-50 less over several years isn't enough to
> make a buying decision on.
>
> >and if you really need it, comes a longer max length than the Bessy's.
>
> Well, I know for a fact that Bessey makes a 96" K-Body. A friend of
> mine has a pair. Are you saying GS makes a longer one than that? And
> even if they do, is that a reason to buy GS 24s vs K-Body 24s?
>
> Citing factors that are different but have no particular advantage
> doesn't make one product *better* than another.
>
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:22:10 GMT, TomL <[email protected]> wrote:
snip
>I'll offer some advice and suggest you
>look into the Gross Stabils. As good as, if not better than the
>Besseys and a lot cheaper if you purchase here:
>
>http://www.allprotools.com/store/page120.html
>
>The 4+price is a substatial savings over any Bessey prices I've found.
That price looks good if you're looking for k-body quality - but what
makes the Gross Stabils possibly better than the Bessey's? Anyone
else have any opinions? I own neither, but I'm curious.
Thanks.
JP
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 12:43:29 -0500, Jay Pique <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>The 4+price is a substatial savings over any Bessey prices I've found.
>
>That price looks good if you're looking for k-body quality - but what
>makes the Gross Stabils possibly better than the Bessey's? Anyone
>else have any opinions? I own neither, but I'm curious.
>
>Thanks.
>JP
I prefer the larger handles and the greater clamping surface of the
Gross Stabils.
You won't go wrong in choosing either the Besseys or the Gross
Stabils.
TomL
I started out with 4 24's and 4 50's. I don't understand why people buy
48's, when 50's are available. If you want to build an entertainment center
or bookcase, the 50's will serve you better. Especially if you want to put
some kind of a pad on each end of the clamp.
"George Berlinger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello,
> I just got 4...Bessy clamps..40" as Xmas
> presents.......cool...wanted to replace my pipe clamps.....they are heavy,
> but should work well, i have a lot of Quick clamps.....might get some 24"
> Bessy`s down the road......always have use for clamps.....buy in pairs
> though...
> "Frank Ketchum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:8%[email protected]...
> > I an gonna take the plunge and buy some Bessy K bodies in the near
future.
> > I was thinking of picking up initially two 24 inchers and two 31 inchers
> (i
> > think they make a 31). My question is, since I am only gonna buy a few
to
> > start, which size do you all find yourself reaching for the most?
Should
> I
> > just say forget the smaller ones and go with 31s only or bigger?
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
>
>
I'm not sure which jorgies you're referring to, but I've used a
friends set, and having to turn a screw is not as fast as squeezing a
grip. Also, they're very clumsy to adjust with one hand.
BTW - I misspoke, the ones I use the most are 6". I use these to
clamp work to a bench for sanding, drilling etc....
Yitah
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:26:11 -0700, Bridger <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:07:27 -0500, Yitah <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:32:59 -0700, Bridger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>then along came the quick grip and their clones. I played with them a
>>>bit and hated them. big clunky squeeze mechanism that maxes out at
>>>about half the pressure of the jorgies. they have been heavily
>>>advertised and have made considerable inroads in the market despite
>>>being basically POS. they have that gee whiz gadgety feel that just
>>>screams JUNK
>>>
>>Sorry, but I like the quick grips. They're expensive and I agree that
>>they don't give nearly the same pressure, but for speed, you can't
>>beat them.
>
>I can too. I've used both and the quick grips are no faster than the
>jorgies.
>
>
>
>
>> I have 2 "micro" (I use these for adjusting bicycle brake
>>calipers, not wooddorking) two 12", two 18", and two 30".
>>
>>I like them most for clamping stock to a workbench, drill press,
>>table saw sliding table, etc. The 12 inchers have the smaller
>>clamping mechanism which make them very easy to handle. For glue-up
>>they're ok, though I can "pair" them into a double length clamp.
>>Since they are so quick to engage, I can take the 18" and the 30" and
>>get them to clamp 48". When gluing, I rely on other clamps in
>>addition to the quick grips.
>>
>>
>>Just my 0.02
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:44:43 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I dislike "QuikGrips" of any brand, but particularly Craftsman. The
>Craftsman were given to me as a gift and I've been looking for an enemy to
>present them to ever since.
I'll be careful not to piss you off...
Bridger
On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:07:27 -0500, Yitah <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 19:32:59 -0700, Bridger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>then along came the quick grip and their clones. I played with them a
>>bit and hated them. big clunky squeeze mechanism that maxes out at
>>about half the pressure of the jorgies. they have been heavily
>>advertised and have made considerable inroads in the market despite
>>being basically POS. they have that gee whiz gadgety feel that just
>>screams JUNK
>>
>Sorry, but I like the quick grips. They're expensive and I agree that
>they don't give nearly the same pressure, but for speed, you can't
>beat them.
I can too. I've used both and the quick grips are no faster than the
jorgies.
> I have 2 "micro" (I use these for adjusting bicycle brake
>calipers, not wooddorking) two 12", two 18", and two 30".
>
>I like them most for clamping stock to a workbench, drill press,
>table saw sliding table, etc. The 12 inchers have the smaller
>clamping mechanism which make them very easy to handle. For glue-up
>they're ok, though I can "pair" them into a double length clamp.
>Since they are so quick to engage, I can take the 18" and the 30" and
>get them to clamp 48". When gluing, I rely on other clamps in
>addition to the quick grips.
>
>
>Just my 0.02
.
>
>That price looks good if you're looking for k-body quality - but what
>makes the Gross Stabils possibly better than the Bessey's? Anyone
>else have any opinions? I own neither, but I'm curious.
>
>Thanks.
>JP
Speaking from my own personal experience of using them both rather
extensively.....
I've used bith the Gross Stabiles and the Bessey K-Bodies and I'll
reach for the Besseys every time. The Gross units can be difficult to
get open or closed. And yes, I know that the K-bodies sometimes can be
a bit ornery, but nowhere near like the Gross units!
Terry Sumner