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"codepath"

19/01/2004 4:20 PM

Repairing a failed joint

I have an old cradle (from when I was a baby) that I want to fix up to use.

It has a stringer board that has barrel-shaped threaded inserts in the end
grain that gets bolted to the upright. The inserts have loosened and come
out of the board but they still can thread onto the bolts.

Obviously, a failure of any solution here could be disastrous should a baby
be in the cradle at the time.

So, how do I fix it? Can I fill the holes with glue and (after it cures)
redrill a new holes for new inserts without it failing? Or do I need to
replace the board completely (which I don't want to do as this is an
antique)?


Thanks,

codepath


This topic has 5 replies

tT

in reply to "codepath" on 19/01/2004 4:20 PM

20/01/2004 12:45 AM

Don't fill the holes with glue, but rather with dowels and glue. Or get a
tougher baby. Tom
Codepath wrote:>I have an old
cradle (from when I was a baby) that I want to fix up to use.
>
>It has a stringer board that has barrel-shaped threaded inserts in the end
>grain that gets bolted to the upright. The inserts have loosened and come
>out of the board but they still can thread onto the bolts.
>
>Obviously, a failure of any solution here could be disastrous should a baby
>be in the cradle at the time.
>
>So, how do I fix it? Can I fill the holes with glue and (after it cures)
>redrill a new holes for new inserts without it failing? Or do I need to
>replace the board completely (which I don't want to do as this is an
>antique)?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>codepath

Someday, it'll all be over....

cn

"codepath"

in reply to "codepath" on 19/01/2004 4:20 PM

20/01/2004 11:22 AM

Thanks all.

So glue dowels into the holes (with I assume Titebond wood glue), cut off
excess and sand smooth (flush), redrill the holes, and epoxy the inserts
back in.

Epoxy recommendations? I look at the orange Borg and saw Gorilla Glue, Super
Glue, and others (I don't know the difference).


codepath




"codepath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have an old cradle (from when I was a baby) that I want to fix up to
use.
>
> It has a stringer board that has barrel-shaped threaded inserts in the end
> grain that gets bolted to the upright. The inserts have loosened and come
> out of the board but they still can thread onto the bolts.
>
> Obviously, a failure of any solution here could be disastrous should a
baby
> be in the cradle at the time.
>
> So, how do I fix it? Can I fill the holes with glue and (after it cures)
> redrill a new holes for new inserts without it failing? Or do I need to
> replace the board completely (which I don't want to do as this is an
> antique)?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> codepath
>
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "codepath" on 19/01/2004 4:20 PM

20/01/2004 9:03 PM


"codepath" writes:
>
> So glue dowels into the holes (with I assume Titebond wood glue), cut off
> excess and sand smooth (flush), redrill the holes, and epoxy the inserts
> back in.

Dowels and wood glue are totally unnecessary and will result in a weaker
joint than using epoxy and microballoons.

> Epoxy recommendations? I look at the orange Borg and saw Gorilla Glue,
Super
> Glue, and others (I don't know the difference).

WEST System epoxy products available almost anyplace except the borg.

Do a google for a store near you.


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures

JD

"James D Kountz"

in reply to "codepath" on 19/01/2004 4:20 PM

20/01/2004 1:30 AM

Should be able to epoxy the inserts back in I would think. Maybe further
secure the joint with some biscuits, dowels, or maybe even screws with some
plug covers. Assuming you're going for a permanent bond. Without seeing what
you have there its kind ofhard to determine the best and strongest route.

Jim


"codepath" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have an old cradle (from when I was a baby) that I want to fix up to
use.
>
> It has a stringer board that has barrel-shaped threaded inserts in the end
> grain that gets bolted to the upright. The inserts have loosened and come
> out of the board but they still can thread onto the bolts.
>
> Obviously, a failure of any solution here could be disastrous should a
baby
> be in the cradle at the time.
>
> So, how do I fix it? Can I fill the holes with glue and (after it cures)
> redrill a new holes for new inserts without it failing? Or do I need to
> replace the board completely (which I don't want to do as this is an
> antique)?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> codepath
>
>

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "codepath" on 19/01/2004 4:20 PM

20/01/2004 12:42 AM


"codepath" writes:
> I have an old cradle (from when I was a baby) that I want to fix up to
use.
>
> It has a stringer board that has barrel-shaped threaded inserts in the end
> grain that gets bolted to the upright. The inserts have loosened and come
> out of the board but they still can thread onto the bolts.
>
> Obviously, a failure of any solution here could be disastrous should a
baby
> be in the cradle at the time.
>
> So, how do I fix it? Can I fill the holes with glue and (after it cures)
> redrill a new holes for new inserts without it failing? Or do I need to
> replace the board completely (which I don't want to do as this is an
> antique)?

This is a natural for an epoxy thickened with microballoons.

It is very straight forward as long as you keep your wits about you.

Go to the library and get a copy of "The Gougeon Bros on Boat Construction".

All the necessary info RE: procedures and techniques are covered.

(It will take you longer to read how to do it than it will to do the job).

HTH


--
Lew

S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures


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