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"Steven Bliss"

13/12/2003 7:40 PM

uh oh...what happened?

Today I tried something I hadn't tried before: thinning oil-based poly with
paint thinner to make a wipe-on poly. Somewhere I read that the first
application should be a 50/50 mix. I actually tried 60/40 poly/thinner.
When I wiped it on, a noticed a significant amount of the stain was coming
off as well. Not enough to be real noticeable, but the project has 2 types
of wood: cherry-stained pecan, and also some birds-eye maple that I wanted
unstained. Luckily, I found the problem before I ran the poly (now
cherry-colored poly) over the maple. Is it supposed to remove the stain as
well? BTW, it is oil-based stain.

--
Steve & Lauri Bliss
San Antonio, Texas


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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 13/12/2003 7:40 PM

13/12/2003 8:49 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Steven Bliss" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Today I tried something I hadn't tried before: thinning oil-based poly with
>paint thinner to make a wipe-on poly. Somewhere I read that the first
>application should be a 50/50 mix. I actually tried 60/40 poly/thinner.
>When I wiped it on, a noticed a significant amount of the stain was coming
>off as well. Not enough to be real noticeable, but the project has 2 types
>of wood: cherry-stained pecan, and also some birds-eye maple that I wanted
>unstained. Luckily, I found the problem before I ran the poly (now
>cherry-colored poly) over the maple. Is it supposed to remove the stain as
>well? BTW, it is oil-based stain.
>
Anything that is a good solvent (or vehicle) for oil-based poly will be a good
solvent for oil-based stain too. The same thing would have happened, although
to a lesser extent, had you not thinned the poly first.

Any time I apply varnish over stain, I always pour off a little varnish into a
smaller container and apply it from that container to avoid contaminating the
main supply of varnish. This actually isn't a bad practice to adopt even for
woods that are not stained -- sometimes the natural colors of the wood will
leach out in the solvent too (padauk in lacquer is a good example).

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

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"Eric Lund"

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 13/12/2003 7:40 PM

14/12/2003 2:47 AM


"Steven Bliss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Today I tried something I hadn't tried before: thinning oil-based poly
with
> paint thinner to make a wipe-on poly. Somewhere I read that the first
> application should be a 50/50 mix. I actually tried 60/40 poly/thinner.
> When I wiped it on, a noticed a significant amount of the stain was coming
> off as well. Not enough to be real noticeable, but the project has 2
types
> of wood: cherry-stained pecan, and also some birds-eye maple that I
wanted
> unstained. Luckily, I found the problem before I ran the poly (now
> cherry-colored poly) over the maple. Is it supposed to remove the stain
as
> well? BTW, it is oil-based stain.
>
> --
> Steve & Lauri Bliss
> San Antonio, Texas
>
>

Doug hit the nail on the head. Hindsight, being 20/20, I would have used a
water based stain if I were planning on wiping on poly. Barry's idea of
using shellac is another good solution.

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Steven Bliss" on 13/12/2003 7:40 PM

13/12/2003 11:04 PM

On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:40:02 GMT, "Steven Bliss" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>. Is it supposed to remove the stain as
>well? BTW, it is oil-based stain.

Try locking the stain down with a light, quickie spray of shellac. A
spray can will work fine.

Barry


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