I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that
it does not gather when pushed out of the way.
My thinking was to cut a T-slot in a piece of wood, and then mount that
piece upside down, and find a piece of t-shaped plastic, that would be
mounted in the t-slot, and then velcro the fabric panel to the T-Shaped
plastic. I have a couple of question.
Can wood on wood be made to slide fairly well, over a long period of time?
Does anybody know where I could find T-Shaped plastic?
I assume I should use hardwood for the piece that has the T-slot, any
particular hardwood that would be best for this type of application?
Does any of this make any sense?
Thanks,
Garry.
On 2004-08-21 20:35:35 -0700, [email protected] (Rileyesi) said:
>> I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
>> have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
>> made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that
>> it does not gather when pushed out of the way.
>>
>> My thinking was to cut a T-slot in a piece of wood, and then mount that
>> piece upside down, and find a piece of t-shaped plastic, that would be
>> mounted in the t-slot, and then velcro the fabric panel to the T-Shaped
>> plastic. I have a couple of question.
>>
>> Can wood on wood be made to slide fairly well, over a long period of time?
>> Does anybody know where I could find T-Shaped plastic?
>> I assume I should use hardwood for the piece that has the T-slot, any
>> particular hardwood that would be best for this type of application?
>>
>> Does any of this make any sense?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Garry.
>
> What are the dimensions you are considering? Door sized or what?
>
> If the plastic is not too thick you could get some sheet and cut a T out of a
> square.
>
> As to wood on wood sliding, could you use something similar to how a dresser
> drawer works?
The max panel size will be 6ft wide by 10ft tall. I am not sure
whether I could use the same idea as a drawer slide (dovetailed) until
I figure out the weight of the panel. I thought plastic on wood might
slide better than wood on wood, but I have no experience in this type
of application to confirm it.
One constraint is that these panels will be stacked 4 deep, so we need
like to keep the distance between each panel at a minimum.
>The max panel size will be 6ft wide by 10ft tall. I am not sure
>whether I could use the same idea as a drawer slide (dovetailed) until
>I figure out the weight of the panel. I thought plastic on wood might
>slide better than wood on wood, but I have no experience in this type
>of application to confirm it.
>
>One constraint is that these panels will be stacked 4 deep, so we need
>like to keep the distance between each panel at a minimum.
>
>
Sounds like pocket hole door hardware is what you are looking for. This site
has some that will support up to 300#.
http://www.door-hardware.net/pockethardware.html
Not affiliated in any way, just trying to help out.
Possibly patio door hardware would work also, especially the screen sections.
HTH
Big John
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>I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
>have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
>made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that
>it does not gather when pushed out of the way.
>
>My thinking was to cut a T-slot in a piece of wood, and then mount that
>piece upside down, and find a piece of t-shaped plastic, that would be
>mounted in the t-slot, and then velcro the fabric panel to the T-Shaped
>plastic. I have a couple of question.
>
>Can wood on wood be made to slide fairly well, over a long period of time?
>Does anybody know where I could find T-Shaped plastic?
>I assume I should use hardwood for the piece that has the T-slot, any
>particular hardwood that would be best for this type of application?
>
>Does any of this make any sense?
>
>Thanks,
>Garry.
What are the dimensions you are considering? Door sized or what?
If the plastic is not too thick you could get some sheet and cut a T out of a
square.
As to wood on wood sliding, could you use something similar to how a dresser
drawer works?
The panels I am referring to are going to be used to cover windows in a
room that has 14ft ceilings. The idea is that the panels will slide out
of the way as a solid piece.
There will be up-to 4 panels per wall, there are two walls.
I am focusing on the track right now as that would seem to be hardest part.
After comments in this group I am now thinking it might be possible to
use sliding dovetail ( think of a wooden undermounted drawer slide, and
turn it upside down) to build the tracks. I would prefer to use
manufactured track, and some kind of T-Slide, but sliding dovetails
might be a good back-up.
The longest wall is 17ft. The piece of wood for this wall would contain
two tracks, 2 sliding dovetails. Each of the two tracks would contain
2 panels, 1 being moved off to the left, and the other 1 to right.
So more questions. .
Any comments on sliding dovetails for this purpose?
I am planning on using hard maple for the tracks, and hard maple of the
slide, neither will be very visible so I could mix the woods if that
would provide a better slide.
Is maple a sound choice? Finding a piece that is 17ft long might be tricky.
In article <2004082120281416807%ucs308@pillarboxcom>, UCS308
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
> have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
> made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that
> it does not gather when pushed out of the way.
>
> Snip
Almost sounds like you use a curtain rod, have you checked out drapery
hardware?
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UCS308 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<2004082121503129155%ucs308@pillarboxcom>...
> On 2004-08-21 20:35:35 -0700, [email protected] (Rileyesi) said:
>
> >> I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
> >> have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
> >> made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that
> >> it does not gather when pushed out of the way.
> >>
> >> My thinking was to cut a T-slot in a piece of wood, and then mount that
> >> piece upside down, and find a piece of t-shaped plastic, that would be
> >> mounted in the t-slot, and then velcro the fabric panel to the T-Shaped
> >> plastic. I have a couple of question.
> >>
> >> Can wood on wood be made to slide fairly well, over a long period of time?
> >> Does anybody know where I could find T-Shaped plastic?
> >> I assume I should use hardwood for the piece that has the T-slot, any
> >> particular hardwood that would be best for this type of application?
> >>
> >> Does any of this make any sense?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Garry.
> >
> > What are the dimensions you are considering? Door sized or what?
> >
> > If the plastic is not too thick you could get some sheet and cut a T out of a
> > square.
> >
> > As to wood on wood sliding, could you use something similar to how a dresser
> > drawer works?
>
> The max panel size will be 6ft wide by 10ft tall. I am not sure
> whether I could use the same idea as a drawer slide (dovetailed) until
> I figure out the weight of the panel. I thought plastic on wood might
> slide better than wood on wood, but I have no experience in this type
> of application to confirm it.
>
> One constraint is that these panels will be stacked 4 deep, so we need
> like to keep the distance between each panel at a minimum.
I was needing to black out my bedroom (shift work) and made seven 3/4"
thick panels 2' x 7'6", then hung them from closet door hardware. I
used 4 sets of hardware, lag bolted to the ceiling and each other, so
the tracks were doubled up side by side and end to end, if you can
picture that. The panels weigh about 15-20 pounds each and have been
sliding effortlessly for about 5 years now.
I have also built shoji screens, wood sliding on wood as is track
doors, with an oil finish and occaisional wax, they slide just fine. I
would probably use hardware for your application.
Can you describe your panels furthur?
is this the molding of which you speak?
http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?&offerings_id=1181&objectgroup_id=240&catid=47&filter=t%20molding
UCS308 wrote:
> I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
> have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
> made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that it
> does not gather when pushed out of the way.
>
> My thinking was to cut a T-slot in a piece of wood, and then mount that
> piece upside down, and find a piece of t-shaped plastic, that would be
> mounted in the t-slot, and then velcro the fabric panel to the T-Shaped
> plastic. I have a couple of question.
>
> Can wood on wood be made to slide fairly well, over a long period of time?
> Does anybody know where I could find T-Shaped plastic?
> I assume I should use hardwood for the piece that has the T-slot, any
> particular hardwood that would be best for this type of application?
>
> Does any of this make any sense?
>
> Thanks,
> Garry.
>
>
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:28:14 -0700, UCS308 <[email protected]>
calmly ranted:
>I figure this is going to be pretty hard to explain but here goes. I
>have to hang several vertical panels, that slide. The panels will be
>made out of very stiff fabric, that will be mounted in such away that
>it does not gather when pushed out of the way.
Why not put a frame around it so you have solid, lightweight
doors with fabric covering?
>My thinking was to cut a T-slot in a piece of wood, and then mount that
>piece upside down, and find a piece of t-shaped plastic, that would be
>mounted in the t-slot, and then velcro the fabric panel to the T-Shaped
>plastic. I have a couple of question.
What size are these things, and what fabric? Now I'm curious.
>Can wood on wood be made to slide fairly well, over a long period of time?
Perfect timing: See the newest copy of Fine Woodworking mag.
It has an article on sliding wooden doors.
>Does anybody know where I could find T-Shaped plastic?
Maybe the Plastic T Manufacturing Company in Boise, Idaho? *
>I assume I should use hardwood for the piece that has the T-slot, any
>particular hardwood that would be best for this type of application?
Oak is available and not expensive. But if you want long, long
term sliders, why not use UHMW poly as a contact strip?
>Does any of this make any sense?
No, but thanks for asking.
* That was a humor-generated name. Don't waste too much
time trying to find it. It doesn't exist AFAIK.
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