Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
Two questions:
Do cold medicines work for this?
What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
Wheeze,
Jamie
Yea, I just started using the same thing. Its great for woodturning. I dont
even get the Cya glue fumes.
"Randy Chapman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> I just picked up an AOSafety mask with two replaceable filters at HF for
> around $25. Ace has the same for around $30. Haven't had an ounce of
dust
> get through, and it totally stopped the paint thinner and oil-based paint
> smells as well. And it doesn't fog my glasses up like the cheapie ones.
>
> --randy
>
> "Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> > mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> > night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> > I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
> >
> > Two questions:
> > Do cold medicines work for this?
> > What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> > green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
> >
> > Wheeze,
> > Jamie
>
>
Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 11:33am [email protected]
(Jamie=A0Jackson) asks:
<snip> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of
these green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
Get a real dust mask, one with replacable filters.
JOAT
Make my shorts. Eat my day.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 21 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Well, guaifenesin is the "standard" expectorant ingredient in OTC cough
syrups, sometimes spelled guaiphenesin, which ought to make it easier to get
a smaller dose. Loosens up the mucus. Production of same is the reaction
to irritants, and is designed to wash them from your system.
As to antibiotics for lung infections, if your doctor prescribes antibiotics
without labs, it's because waiting for results can kill you. Bacterial
infections are faster than viral, which depend on the body's own cellular
reproduction.
By the "logic" of the anti antibiotic group we should not wash out hands
either, as we are selecting for bacteria which resist mechanical sloughing
and surfactant lysing. Oprah notwithstanding, the DNA of bacteria is
limited in its coding ability. Resistance to one variety of antibiotic
often develops at the expense of losing resistance to another. If no
advantage, the genome sheds loose baggage. Darwin giveth and also taketh
away.
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Not so funny that you mention it. For the past few years I almost always
> have one or two projects going constantly. The past three weeks I haven't
> been in the shop at all because of a "lung infection" ... which means they
> can't figure out what it really is, but treated it with anitbiotics
anyway.
> I'm almost over it now, but have been waiting for it to clear up
completely
> before starting anything else.
>
> I suspected that it came from working with walnut, but the doctors didn't
> think so. ITMT, I could be the OSHA poster boy with all the stuff I had
> hanging off my mug when I walked out there to sand a table top for someone
> yesterday.
>
> The medicine that helped the most was Guanefesin (sp), It is prescription,
> but, while you're on your way to get an xray, which you should do, see if
> you can get the doctor to prescribe it.
>Get a real dust mask, one with replacable filters.
The 2 strap "paper" masks now being offered that are certified for asbestos
are comfortable, light weight, and work.
--
Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 11:33am [email protected]
(Jamie Jackson) asks:
<snip> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of
these green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
Get a real dust mask, one with replacable filters.
JOAT
Make my shorts. Eat my day.
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 21 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:33:17 -0400, Jamie Jackson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
>mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
>night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
>I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
>Two questions:
>Do cold medicines work for this?
>What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
>green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
>Wheeze,
>Jamie
DustFoe. This mask is incredible and seals tightly against the face
with one-way value operation. You owe it to your health. Get a pack
of extra filters. It may not work well with a beard or stubble.
"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
Try this stuff(or similar non drug nasal flush) after a sanding, cutting or
other session to flush out the particulate matter from the old snozzola.
http://www.entsolwash.com/products/products.htm
A doc at the local med school is marketing a similar product, which is
basically just a weak saline solution, and says it's as good as those high $
over-the-counter cold sprays for relief of symptoms such as yours....(..do I
sound like Paul Harvey????)
Larry
--
Lawrence L'Hote
Columbia, MO
http://home.mchsi.com/~larrylhote
http://home.mchsi.com/~llhote
Something else to consider if you can swing it. Put your self between the
work you are sanding and a fan. The fan will blow the dust away from you.
This works best if the fan blows towards an open window or door.
"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
> Wheeze,
> Jamie
I just picked up an AOSafety mask with two replaceable filters at HF for
around $25. Ace has the same for around $30. Haven't had an ounce of dust
get through, and it totally stopped the paint thinner and oil-based paint
smells as well. And it doesn't fog my glasses up like the cheapie ones.
--randy
"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
> Wheeze,
> Jamie
I've been using a "neti pot" for some while now to flush out my
nose/sinuses. Incidentally, I started using one for sinus infections, and
then figured out that it would work great for sawdust. Basically, it's a pot
that holds tap water; you add a small amount of table salt to make it
salinated, and then stick the spigot up one nostril and let the water flow
through your sinuses and out the other side. It sounds really gross, but MAN
does it work.
DAGS on "neti pot" with the quotes and you'll see some examples. I made mine
from a standard kitchen gravy separator (like this one:
http://www.lnt.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1350758 but at Wal Mart for
$3 or so) and a cake icing funnel tip - total cost of about $5.
Cheers,
--
Henry
To reply use henry @t henrywebb d0t com
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"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
> Wheeze,
> Jamie
The double elastic paper masks for use with asbestos work well.
--
Rumpty
Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
> Wheeze,
> Jamie
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The medicine that helped the most was Guanefesin (sp), It is
> prescription, but, while you're on your way to get an xray, which you
> should do, see if you can get the doctor to prescribe it.
>
There's a new OTC stuff called 'Mucinex' that's a time released formula
of guaifenesin (or however that crap is spelled). You may have to
search around, and ask your pharmacist.
The local Walgreens' had it behind the counter; the local Rite-Aid
didn't have it in stock, but could get it in a couple of days.
Me too, with a sinus infection right now (and SWMBO, too ...)
Hope this helps,
JT
Not so funny that you mention it. For the past few years I almost always
have one or two projects going constantly. The past three weeks I haven't
been in the shop at all because of a "lung infection" ... which means they
can't figure out what it really is, but treated it with anitbiotics anyway.
I'm almost over it now, but have been waiting for it to clear up completely
before starting anything else.
I suspected that it came from working with walnut, but the doctors didn't
think so. ITMT, I could be the OSHA poster boy with all the stuff I had
hanging off my mug when I walked out there to sand a table top for someone
yesterday.
The medicine that helped the most was Guanefesin (sp), It is prescription,
but, while you're on your way to get an xray, which you should do, see if
you can get the doctor to prescribe it.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 9/21/03
"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
Hi Jamie.
Different people have different thresholds of tolerance. Different woods
have different degrees of toxicity. If you're that distressed after what
sounds like a relatively short exposure, then you really need to look at a
proper respirator or a blown air face shield. Both are expensive and
neither are much fun to wear. You also need to consider an air filtration
system for your shop and point extraction for your sander.
It's all expensive kit, but your lungs are priceless.
Regards,
Frank
"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
> Wheeze,
> Jamie
"Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Not so funny that you mention it. For the past few years I almost always
> have one or two projects going constantly. The past three weeks I haven't
> been in the shop at all because of a "lung infection" ... which means they
> can't figure out what it really is, but treated it with anitbiotics
anyway.
> I'm almost over it now, but have been waiting for it to clear up
completely
> before starting anything else.
Please don't take antibiotics unless you know you have
a non-viral infection. There is an ever growing problem
of drug-resistant diseases due to overuse of antibiotics.
Do yourself a favor and don't kill bugs that don't need
to be killed.
Dennis Vogel
I've read all the responses, thanks. I'll check into all of the
following (since I'm still getting over this):
*Expectorants
*Nose sprays and "neti-pots" (the latter sounds like a good time ;-)
*Use of window fans
*DCs
*Ambient Air Cleaners
*Alternative masks mentioned
I think I did manage to figure out 90% of my problem, though: Somehow,
I had it in my head that the green masks were more protective and the
white masks were less (I have both types in my garage). I had been
using the green, until I was at the borg over the weekend, eyeing the
"gas masks," and noticed something about the regular masks: The white
ones were thick and had the two straps and the greens were for light
duty. Ack, I had been using the greens! I've switched to the whites,
and have been breathing no dust since, though these do still fog my
glasses/goggles. Because of that, I'll probably go with a mask with
cartridges, etc.
I'll probably have to rig up some kind of DC or Air Cleaner, too,
since I don't want to have to wear a mask everytime I go in the garage
(that router powder hangs in the air for a while, and stirs up
easily).
Darn, I guess that also means that I've got to get a router with an
integral DC port, or else I've got to rout outside (daylight only).
Thanks again,
Jamie
A really good urethane mask that uses replaceable filters.
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 11:33:17 -0400, Jamie Jackson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
>mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
>night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
>I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
>Two questions:
>Do cold medicines work for this?
>What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
>green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
>Wheeze,
>Jamie
Jamie,
I contacted 3M and here is what they recommended and what I purchased.
One 7500 dust mask for a whopping $20.
Two 6001 Organic vapor cartriges for $7 bucks a pair.
Two prefilters for the cartriges for 4 bucks a pair.
The mask is super comfortable. The air that you breath is always cool. And
my cough went away.
You might want to look into a dust collector and maybe an ambient air
cleaner.
Check this site out. He has tons of dust collection info.
http://home.comcast.net/~dstig1/dustfaq_1.html
-Grampa Simpson
"Jamie Jackson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, I'm really hurting today. The night before last, I made the
> mistake of removing my mask after routing some plywood, and last
> night, my mask wasn't well sealed (apparently) against my face. Now
> I've got the worst cold-like affliction.
>
> Two questions:
> Do cold medicines work for this?
> What *should* I be using for respiratory protection, instead of these
> green, cheapo, elastic-band masks?
>
> Wheeze,
> Jamie