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[email protected] (Ah10201)

26/02/2004 3:38 AM

having a problem with stain!

hi everyone...

I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to staining, the
stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the excess glue squirted
out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and the edges where there was excess
glue stained to a much lighter color than the rest of the piece. Is there
anything I can do to get rid of the excess glue?

thank you for the help


This topic has 9 replies

nn

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

27/02/2004 9:00 AM

Or TransTint dyes.

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:32:42 -0500, "George"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>If it's oil-based finish, use standard art oil colors to tint your own. If
>water-based, acrylics work.

Gs

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

27/02/2004 7:32 AM

If it's oil-based finish, use standard art oil colors to tint your own. If
water-based, acrylics work.

"Joe Willmann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Get a verrrrrry fine artist brush. Get some tinted poly. Very
> carefully paint some on over the light spots. Let dry. Sand very
> lightly. Repeat till teh color is right. Then get a verry lightly
> tinted poly and put a coat over everything. Repeat.

bJ

[email protected] (John Barry)

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 6:18 AM

[email protected] (Ah10201) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> hi everyone...
>
> I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to staining, the
> stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the excess glue squirted
> out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and the edges where there was excess
> glue stained to a much lighter color than the rest of the piece. Is there
> anything I can do to get rid of the excess glue?
>
> thank you for the help

Sure is- don't let it get there in the future. Making mistakes is one
way we learn- guess I've learned a lot, overall. (The glue penetrates
into the wood, so you'd have to remove all the wood/glue matrix in the
area for penetrating stain to work. An opaque, non-penetrating stain
might salvage the area, or at least not draw attention to it.)

I've often wondered why Norm Abram doesn't tip people when he
swabs/wipes off excess glue in a visible area about the challenges of
staining the area after.

Live and learn- an enjoyable journey.

Regards,
John

cC

[email protected] (Conan the Librarian)

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 5:38 AM

[email protected] (Ah10201) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> hi everyone...
>
> I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to staining, the
> stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the excess glue squirted
> out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and the edges where there was excess
> glue stained to a much lighter color than the rest of the piece. Is there
> anything I can do to get rid of the excess glue?

You might want to ask "LRod" in the thread "Norm's mahagany [sic]
finish". He seems to have a lot of inside info on Nahm, and I'm
betting that Nahm runs into the same sort of problem all the time.


Chuck Vance
Just say (tmPL) And while you're at it, ask about Nahm's magical
glue sponges. They evidently remove all the squeezeout, no matter how
much glue you slop on the joint.

JW

Joe Willmann

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 11:31 PM

[email protected] (Ah10201) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> hi everyone...
>
> I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to
> staining, the stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the
> excess glue squirted out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and
> the edges where there was excess glue stained to a much lighter color
> than the rest of the piece. Is there anything I can do to get rid of
> the excess glue?
>
> thank you for the help

Well, someone aught to answer his question.
It depends on what kind of finish you are putting on top of it. Let say
for instance you are putting poly on top of the stain.

Get a verrrrrry fine artist brush. Get some tinted poly. Very
carefully paint some on over the light spots. Let dry. Sand very
lightly. Repeat till teh color is right. Then get a verry lightly
tinted poly and put a coat over everything. Repeat.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 4:24 PM

On 26 Feb 2004 06:18:56 -0800, [email protected] (John Barry)
brought forth from the murky depths:

>I've often wondered why Norm Abram doesn't tip people when he
>swabs/wipes off excess glue in a visible area about the challenges of
>staining the area after.

'Cuz he's a carpenter. Carpenters don't care about that
fussy stuff. His use of stain and poly is proof of that.
Extra proof of that is in his use of a brad nailah on the
face of nigh onta every project he's ever put out. Other
than that, I'm cool with the Nahm.


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[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt)

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 7:42 AM

[email protected] (Ah10201) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> hi everyone...
>
> I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to staining, the
> stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the excess glue squirted
> out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and the edges where there was excess
> glue stained to a much lighter color than the rest of the piece. Is there
> anything I can do to get rid of the excess glue?
>
> thank you for the help

I think you're better off getting rid of the stain.

However, you might eb able to even it out by scraping or sanding off
the surface to remove all the stain on it now, and then seal the
grain with a spit coat of shellac. Then apply the stain.

If you scrape or plane off 1/64" or so of the surface that will
probably remove the glue. It is not likely to penetrate very far.

In the future, one trick that can be used is to first dry fit the piece.
Then appy masking tape along the joints. Then glue it and the masking
tape will keep the excess glue from penetrating the surface of the
wood.

Or you could seal the pieces befor gluing, being careful not to
get finish on the parts that will be glued.

--

FF

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 2:16 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Ah10201 <[email protected]> wrote:
>hi everyone...
>
>I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to staining, the
>stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the excess glue squirted
>out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and the edges where there was excess
>glue stained to a much lighter color than the rest of the piece. Is there
>anything I can do to get rid of the excess glue?
>
>thank you for the help

Wyle E. Coyote recommends "Acme glue remover". Be careful with the fuse
length, however. <grin>


Seriously, a lot depends on "what kind of glue" it was,

Bn

Bridger

in reply to [email protected] (Ah10201) on 26/02/2004 3:38 AM

26/02/2004 12:43 PM

On 26 Feb 2004 07:42:34 -0800, [email protected] (Fred the Red
Shirt) wrote:

>[email protected] (Ah10201) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> hi everyone...
>>
>> I glued a half-lap joint together. However, when it came down to staining, the
>> stain was unable to fully penetrate the areas where the excess glue squirted
>> out. I tried sanding, but that didn't help and the edges where there was excess
>> glue stained to a much lighter color than the rest of the piece. Is there
>> anything I can do to get rid of the excess glue?
>>
>> thank you for the help
>
>I think you're better off getting rid of the stain.
>
>However, you might eb able to even it out by scraping or sanding off
>the surface to remove all the stain on it now, and then seal the
>grain with a spit coat of shellac. Then apply the stain.
>
>If you scrape or plane off 1/64" or so of the surface that will
>probably remove the glue. It is not likely to penetrate very far.
>
>In the future, one trick that can be used is to first dry fit the piece.
>Then appy masking tape along the joints. Then glue it and the masking
>tape will keep the excess glue from penetrating the surface of the
>wood.


except for the places where the glue creeps *under* the tape. in those
places, the tape will hide the glue from you until it dries.







>
>Or you could seal the pieces befor gluing, being careful not to
>get finish on the parts that will be glued.


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