If you have a non-working Long Ranger, you might want to read this.
I had mine go out the other day. It has been used for about 4 years.
Unfortunately I turned it on and off several times during the start
cycle of the dust collector. I found that the relay (only really
rated at 1hp) did not like that. It welded shut. After taking it
apart, I unsealed the relay (using a dremel tool cutter) and sanded
the contacts. It is working OK now, but I really don't trust it. I
looked up an equivalent relay and it looks like a Tyco T90N1D12-12 is
a replacement for it. The relay is only about $2 from Digikey
(Digikey PB104-ND).
You will probably want to check it to see if that fixes it. If you
don't, let me know. I would like to have a couple of more
transmiters. I sprinkle them around the shop for easy access.
Just remember, when you turn your dust collector on. Keep it on until
it reaches speed. Turning it off during startup creates an arc in the
relay contacts that can weld 1/2 inch bar stock!!!
I think the instructions are on the transmitter, hold on........For the LR_3_,
push a button on the side of the reciever and release quickly.You should hear a
beep, and within 5 seconds, press once either the on or off button on the
transmitter. You should hear a double beep from the reciever. Press either
button again and a triple beep should occur, and you're done.Tom
charlie b wrote:>And on the subject of the
Lone Ranger, I picked up a spare
>transmitter on sale for $5. Turns out this one's tuned to
>another frequency than my unit. Anyone know a way of getting
>the new one to my unit's "channel"?
>
>
Someday, it'll all be over....
You can't start a DC very long with a $2 relay. If you got a real starting
relay and let the remote control its coil, it would last a long time.
Wilson
"Eric Anderson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you have a non-working Long Ranger, you might want to read this.
>
> I had mine go out the other day. It has been used for about 4 years.
> Unfortunately I turned it on and off several times during the start
> cycle of the dust collector. I found that the relay (only really
> rated at 1hp) did not like that. It welded shut. After taking it
> apart, I unsealed the relay (using a dremel tool cutter) and sanded
> the contacts. It is working OK now, but I really don't trust it. I
> looked up an equivalent relay and it looks like a Tyco T90N1D12-12 is
> a replacement for it. The relay is only about $2 from Digikey
> (Digikey PB104-ND).
>
> You will probably want to check it to see if that fixes it. If you
> don't, let me know. I would like to have a couple of more
> transmiters. I sprinkle them around the shop for easy access.
>
> Just remember, when you turn your dust collector on. Keep it on until
> it reaches speed. Turning it off during startup creates an arc in the
> relay contacts that can weld 1/2 inch bar stock!!!
The problem that welded the contacts on your relay isn't the relay, but
a capacitor that is soldered across the contacts in the circuit. Like
in older cars, the points (like relay contacts) always had a condenser
(also like a capacitor) connected across them to keep them from arcing.
It could be that turning on/off the switch quickly, charged the
capacitor before it could discharge through the motor while running the
sudden surge again could not be absorbed by an already charged
capacitor, so the contacts arced.
For this very reason, that is why I don't use a Long Ranger. My tools
are setup so that everytime a tool goes on, the DC goes on without the
need of pressing a remote button or leaving the DC on while there is no
dust to collect. And about 5 seconds after the tool is shut off the DC
turns off by itself. No extra wiring.
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>Eric=A0Anderson wrote
>If you have a non-working Long Ranger, you might want to read this.
>I had mine go out the other day. It has been used for about 4 years.
>Unfortunately I turned it on and off several times during the start
>cycle of the dust collector. I found that the relay (only really
>rated at 1hp) did not like that. It welded shut. After taking it apart,
>I unsealed the relay (using a dremel tool cutter) and sanded
>the contacts. It is working OK now, but I really don't trust it. I
looked
>up an equivalent relay and it looks like a Tyco T90N1D12-12 is a
>replacement for it. The relay is only about $2 from Digikey
>(Digikey PB104-ND).
>You will probably want to check it to see if that fixes it. If you
don't,
>let me know. I would like to have a couple of more transmitters.
>I sprinkle them around the shop for easy access.
>Just remember, when you turn your dust collector on. Keep it
>on until it reaches speed. Turning it off during startup creates an
>arc in the relay contacts that can weld 1/2 inch bar stock!!!
--
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:20:02 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:
>And on the subject of the Lone Ranger, I picked up a spare
>transmitter on sale for $5. Turns out this one's tuned to
>another frequency than my unit. Anyone know a way of getting
>the new one to my unit's "channel"?
Most RF automation goodies are tuned to only 2 freqs:
1 for UK @ 418MHz and 1 for the USA/world @ 433.92MHz.
PSI appears to be different (A - C freqs)
You'll probably have to call them to find out.
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:20:02 -0800, charlie b <[email protected]> wrote:
>And on the subject of the Lone Ranger, I picked up a spare
>transmitter on sale for $5. Turns out this one's tuned to
>another frequency than my unit. Anyone know a way of getting
>the new one to my unit's "channel"?
You can tune the receiver to the new one. just follow the instruction on it. if
you don't have them I can get them for you. I had mine loose the connection a
few times and had to re tune it.
if I remember right you hold down the button on the receiver push the
transmitter button till the receiver beeps. then remove your finger and push the
transmitter button again. but it has been awhile.
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