manual drill press

AArDvarK wrote:


> Curious, anyone know if there is a such thind as a
> bench-top type of drill press that is manualy used,
> not involving the use of an electric motor?

Maybe you get find an old eggbeater drill at a garage sale or on Ebay and
use it with a portable drill guide, like this one:
<http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=2405&sid=AF998>.

Why do you need a hand-powered drill press? If size is a problem, there are
small electric drill presses such as the Proxxon
<http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family_id=4902&refcode=04INFROO&PRID=Frgl4902>,
the Microlux
<http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=81631>,
or, (if you're rolling in money) the Levin
<http://www.levinlathe.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/31>.


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Steve

AArDvarK asks:

>Older tool ideas still being made? Motor free?
>
>Curious, anyone know if there is a such thind as a
>bench-top type of drill press that is manualy used,
>not involving the use of an electric motor?
>
>Reason is, I [want] to do small woodworking and
>construction in my apartment*, including the use
>of a morticing attachment if possible, for dove-
>tail corners.
>
>Other tool idea is a small, yet high quality miter
>box of maybe around 15" blade length, with
>movements that can go in all directions. The
>nice one I know of, Sears item #00936343000
>http://www.sears.com/ (search engine) Is twice
>too long with it's two foot blade.
>

http://www.micromark.com/

Not older tools, but smaller. For the hand operated drill press in small, light
material, I suggest a Stanley push drill. They're still made.

Micromark is probably the premier catalog house for model making sized tools,
power and hand. I haven't looked recently, but the used to have a small miter
box that might do as you wish, though you may be adding more specifications to
it than it is possible to get.

Charlie Self
"If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our
institutions, great is our sin." Charles Darwin

In article <tcjgc.10527$432.4503@fed1read01>, [email protected] says...
> > Maybe you get find an old eggbeater drill at a garage sale or on Ebay and
> > use it with a portable drill guide, like this one:
> > <http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=2405&sid=AF998>.
> >
> > Why do you need a hand-powered drill press? If size is a problem, there are
> > small electric drill presses such as the Proxxon
> > <http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family_id=4902&refcode=04INFROO&PRID=Frgl4902>,
> > the Microlux
> > <http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=81631>,
> > or, (if you're rolling in money) the Levin
> > <http://www.levinlathe.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/31>.
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Steve
>
> as in an apartment one does not need the noise bothering
> neighbors to the point of getting evicted. And an electric
> drill will flay sawdust everywhere. Don't need either one.
> Thanks for the great links!
>
> Alex

A good drill press, even a large one should not produce enough noise
that your neighbors would even know you had it. My Jet is one of the
quietest tools in my shop; I can't imagine it would even register
compared to a neighboring apartment's stereo system.

> Do a search on a "post drill" and you may find what you are looking
> for. There are usually 1 or 2 for auction on ebay at any given time.
> I can't help with the miterbox question. I have a Jorgenson but it
> also has a blade about 24"
>
> Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
> [email protected]
>

Thanks, but tell me, do you know what country
the Jorgensen is made in? How is the cutting quality?

Alex

Great thanks!

Alex

That sounds like a great experience,
and I'd love to see that drill too.

Alex

>
> http://www.micromark.com/
>
> Not older tools, but smaller. For the hand operated drill press in small, light
> material, I suggest a Stanley push drill. They're still made.
>
> Micromark is probably the premier catalog house for model making sized tools,
> power and hand. I haven't looked recently, but the used to have a small miter
> box that might do as you wish, though you may be adding more specifications to
> it than it is possible to get.
>
> Charlie Self
> "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature, but by our
> institutions, great is our sin." Charles Darwin
>

Thanks, but this is closer to the idea, like a drill press:
http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/advert/ay249.htm
Click on the links to see the other two pictures. A modern
"something like that" would be perfect, especially if a gear
train speeds up the spinning. Micromark still has the mini
miter-rite, too small though.

Still in the Poser group?

Alex

In article <8F3gc.10348$432.6454@fed1read01>,
AArDvarK <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Older tool ideas still being made? Motor free?
>
>Curious, anyone know if there is a such thind as a
>bench-top type of drill press that is manualy used,
>not involving the use of an electric motor?
>
>Reason is, I [want] to do small woodworking and
>construction in my apartment*, including the use
>of a morticing attachment if possible, for dove-
>tail corners.
>
>Other tool idea is a small, yet high quality miter
>box of maybe around 15" blade length, with
>movements that can go in all directions. The
>nice one I know of, Sears item #00936343000
>http://www.sears.com/ (search engine) Is twice
>too long with it's two foot blade.
>
>Peices being worked with will be cherry or mahogany,
>0.25" (or so) thick by several inches long and up
>to 1.5" wide. I would like to find such tool brand(s)
>that are decent, or any that exist please.
>
>Thanks all,
>
>Alex
>
>

Do a search on a "post drill" and you may find what you are looking
for. There are usually 1 or 2 for auction on ebay at any given time.
I can't help with the miterbox question. I have a Jorgenson but it
also has a blade about 24"


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

In article <9MRgc.12221$432.2564@fed1read01>,
AArDvarK <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Do a search on a "post drill" and you may find what you are looking
>> for. There are usually 1 or 2 for auction on ebay at any given time.
>> I can't help with the miterbox question. I have a Jorgenson but it
>> also has a blade about 24"
>>
>> Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
>> [email protected]
>>
>
>Thanks, but tell me, do you know what country
>the Jorgensen is made in? How is the cutting quality?
>
>Alex
>
>

Jorgensen is a US company but they may import the saw for all I know.
With the supplied blade the cut quality is acceptable, about what
you'd expect from a hand saw. It is not as smooth as a good table saw
blade would make, for instance. Accuracy is good. When I bought it I
thought I'd use it more than I do. Most of the time I use my tablesaw
now.
--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

this is a closer idea:
http://www.patented-antiques.com/images/WEB%20Sale%20Catagories/WEB%20Tools/Drill%20Page/drills_w1/drill03/d_table_grn.jpg

In article <8F3gc.10348$432.6454@fed1read01>, [email protected]
says...
> Curious, anyone know if there is a such thind as a
> bench-top type of drill press that is manualy used,
> not involving the use of an electric motor?
>

> Other tool idea is a small, yet high quality miter
> box of maybe around 15" blade length, with
> movements that can go in all directions. The
>
For both the drill press and a miter box, go on Ebay or just do
a Google on "Goodell-Pratt", "Goodell Brothers", and "Goodell
Manufacturing". Heck, just search on "Goodell".

They're old, but they're good :-).

--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

Why? Well, it's a specialty application, but I spent a week one
summer working for a blacksmith. We were set up in the artisan's area
of a medieval re-enactment camp. The nearest electrical feed was
several miles away.

I met more interesting artisans that week, because we had the antique
drill press. I helped drill hardwood, green wood, softwoods, four
different kinds of metal, bone, and I don't know what-all.

There's nothing more popular than a man with a manual drill press in
the off-grid desert.

The jeweler was particularly entertaining.

"So, how far down does your chuck go?"

"I think it goes to zero."

"Let's try it."

It was an amazing picture. Large, bulky 19th century gearbox. Huge
chuck. Teeny, tiny carbide bit, carefully cranked.

But how often do you need drill-press in the middle of the woods, eh?

Will

Layne <> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I don't think they make these any more....at least not to my
> knowledge. You can however, every once in a while, find these used on
> Ebay. I'm a semi-neander myself, but I think that buying a good used
> electric drill press is better. Just as quiet, one hand free to hold
> work against fence, depth stop, multi-speed, etc. etc. Why get an
> antique drill press, except for the novelty of it?
>
> Layne
>
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:11:09 -0700, "AArDvarK" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks, but this is closer to the idea, like a drill press:
> >http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/advert/ay249.htm
> >Click on the links to see the other two pictures. A modern
> >"something like that" would be perfect, especially if a gear
> >train speeds up the spinning. Micromark still has the mini
> >miter-rite, too small though.
> >
> >Still in the Poser group?
> >
> >Alex
> >

Layne <> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 21 Apr 2004 08:21:14 -0700, [email protected] (Bill McNutt) wrote:

>
> Hey! You attended a *Medival re-enactment camp* with a "19th century"
> manual drill press!!!!???? A bit anachronistic, don't cha think? :-)
>
> Layne


Heh. Guilty.

It was a very informal gathering. As long as we were setting stuff on
fire and then hitting it with hammers, they were happy.

Bill

[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
> Jorgensen is a US company but they may import the saw for all I know.
> With the supplied blade the cut quality is acceptable, about what
> you'd expect from a hand saw. It is not as smooth as a good table saw
> blade would make, for instance. ...

Odd, I would expect a good handsaw to make a smoother cut than a good
tablesaw, though both depend on the skill of the sawyer.

--

FF

> > as in an apartment one does not need the noise bothering
> > neighbors to the point of getting evicted. And an electric
> > drill will flay sawdust everywhere. Don't need either one.
> > Thanks for the great links!
> >
> > Alex
>
> A good drill press, even a large one should not produce enough noise
> that your neighbors would even know you had it. My Jet is one of the
> quietest tools in my shop; I can't imagine it would even register
> compared to a neighboring apartment's stereo system.

More than likely true, thank you.
Alex

On 21 Apr 2004 08:21:14 -0700, [email protected] (Bill McNutt) wrote:

>Why? Well, it's a specialty application, but I spent a week one
>summer working for a blacksmith. We were set up in the artisan's area
>of a medieval re-enactment camp. The nearest electrical feed was
>several miles away.

snippytisnip

>It was an amazing picture. Large, bulky 19th century gearbox. Huge
>chuck. Teeny, tiny carbide bit, carefully cranked.

Hey! You attended a *Medival re-enactment camp* with a "19th century"
manual drill press!!!!???? A bit anachronistic, don't cha think? :-)

Layne

>Layne <> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> I don't think they make these any more....at least not to my
>> knowledge. You can however, every once in a while, find these used on
>> Ebay. I'm a semi-neander myself, but I think that buying a good used
>> electric drill press is better. Just as quiet, one hand free to hold
>> work against fence, depth stop, multi-speed, etc. etc. Why get an
>> antique drill press, except for the novelty of it?
>>
>> Layne

I don't think they make these any more....at least not to my
knowledge. You can however, every once in a while, find these used on
Ebay. I'm a semi-neander myself, but I think that buying a good used
electric drill press is better. Just as quiet, one hand free to hold
work against fence, depth stop, multi-speed, etc. etc. Why get an
antique drill press, except for the novelty of it?

Layne

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:11:09 -0700, "AArDvarK" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Thanks, but this is closer to the idea, like a drill press:
>http://www.americanartifacts.com/smma/advert/ay249.htm
>Click on the links to see the other two pictures. A modern
>"something like that" would be perfect, especially if a gear
>train speeds up the spinning. Micromark still has the mini
>miter-rite, too small though.
>
>Still in the Poser group?
>
>Alex
>

In article <[email protected]>,
Fred the Red Shirt <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Lawrence Wasserman) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>
>> Jorgensen is a US company but they may import the saw for all I know.
>> With the supplied blade the cut quality is acceptable, about what
>> you'd expect from a hand saw. It is not as smooth as a good table saw
>> blade would make, for instance. ...
>
>Odd, I would expect a good handsaw to make a smoother cut than a good
>tablesaw, though both depend on the skill of the sawyer.
>
>--
>
>FF

A good tablesaw blade can rip or crosscut a piece of wood and leave an
edge so smooth that it shines. I've never seen a handsaw that could.


--

Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]

> Maybe you get find an old eggbeater drill at a garage sale or on Ebay and
> use it with a portable drill guide, like this one:
> <http://www.rockler.com/findit.cfm?page=2405&sid=AF998>.
>
> Why do you need a hand-powered drill press? If size is a problem, there are
> small electric drill presses such as the Proxxon
> <http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/product_family.asp?family_id=4902&refcode=04INFROO&PRID=Frgl4902>,
> the Microlux
> <http://www.ares-server.com/Ares/Ares.asp?MerchantID=RET01229&Action=Catalog&Type=Product&ID=81631>,
> or, (if you're rolling in money) the Levin
> <http://www.levinlathe.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/31>.
>
>
> --
> --
> Steve

as in an apartment one does not need the noise bothering
neighbors to the point of getting evicted. And an electric
drill will flay sawdust everywhere. Don't need either one.
Thanks for the great links!

Alex

> Odd, I would expect a good handsaw to make a smoother cut than a good
> tablesaw, though both depend on the skill of the sawyer.
>
> --
>
> FF

They've got finer teeth blades though, 18tpi and 24tpi
http://www.adjustableclamp.com/

Alex