WP <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
> outside.
>
> TIA
I've been told that cedar dust is unusually prickley - lots of little
pointy bits that stick inside the lungs. Don't know, but it can't hurt
to be careful. The story came from a northwest Indian carver who told me
that all the old carvers seemed to have terrible coughs.
David
Cedar is durable without treating. They save treating for pine.
George wrote:
> Just the point. It's _all_ treated with insecticide and fungicide. That's
> what makes it durable.
>
> Once again, if it were a manufactured product, I don't believe it would make
> it to market.
>
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Is there really a Treated Cedar?
> >
> > Cedar is pretty tough to deal with in confined spaces for many people when
> > the dust is flying.
> >
> >
> > "WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> > > the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my
> cutting
> > > outside.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> >
> >
Just the point. It's _all_ treated with insecticide and fungicide. That's
what makes it durable.
Once again, if it were a manufactured product, I don't believe it would make
it to market.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is there really a Treated Cedar?
>
> Cedar is pretty tough to deal with in confined spaces for many people when
> the dust is flying.
>
>
> "WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> > the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my
cutting
> > outside.
> >
> > TIA
> >
>
>
Guess it shot by without making a mark.
I didn't say _who_ treated it, but , if it were so full of poisons and
allergens as a result of an artificial process, it would undoubtedly be
banned.
"Grant P. Beagles" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Cedar is durable without treating. They save treating for pine.
>
> George wrote:
>
> > Just the point. It's _all_ treated with insecticide and fungicide.
That's
> > what makes it durable.
> >
> > Once again, if it were a manufactured product, I don't believe it would
make
> > it to market.
> >
> > "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Is there really a Treated Cedar?
Potentially Toxic Woods
http://www.mimf.com/archives/toxic.htm
I built a Headboard, desk & bookshelf out of aromatic Cedar and posted
pics to the "pictures Newsgroup" and I got as many warnings about the wood,
as I did Comments on the woodwork. So I looked into it.... Deadly stuff if
your a Moth or a mosquito!!( or haveing an alergy can be annoying)
It is dusty wood ( Even Western red) so use a dust mask..
"WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
> outside.
>
> TIA
>
The allergen in cedar is a gas so wearing a filter will not stop the
allergic problem. A (paint spray) mask incorporating activated charcoal
filters will remove the offending chemical. And yes, cedar is naturally
biologically active, no treatment is required to achieve its allergy
potential and resistance to microorganisms.
"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "WP" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> > the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my
cutting
> > outside.
> >
> > TIA
> >
>
> Not an expert, but I do some reading. A FWW article (from sometime in the
> last fifteen years - THAT narrows it down some) indicated that there are
> all kinds of woods called cedars, many of which have very little in common
> with each other botanically. The wood you are using may be anything,
> really.
>
> That having been said, open air woodworking is a true joy, when the
weather
> is good. But having worked outside for 8 hours yesterday, building with
> redwood, personal experience tells me that, on a breezy day, you're still
> likely to get a nose full of saw dust pretty regularly, using a power saw.
>
> An inexpensive dust mask would have been a start. I still have to work on
> the sunglasses with the bifocal prescription in them....
>
> But springtime is GREAT!
>
> Patriarch
I was having a check up a while back and the Doc was reviewing all
my possible occupational hazards and then he enquired about home
and hobbies. When I got to WW he just wanted to make sure I was
using all the right PPE's and his only real concern about domestic woods
that I use was Red Cedar. Told me to use a higher quality dust mask
and better ventilation when working with it.
Joey in chesapeake
"WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
> outside.
>
> TIA
>
"WP" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
> outside.
>
> TIA
>
Not an expert, but I do some reading. A FWW article (from sometime in the
last fifteen years - THAT narrows it down some) indicated that there are
all kinds of woods called cedars, many of which have very little in common
with each other botanically. The wood you are using may be anything,
really.
That having been said, open air woodworking is a true joy, when the weather
is good. But having worked outside for 8 hours yesterday, building with
redwood, personal experience tells me that, on a breezy day, you're still
likely to get a nose full of saw dust pretty regularly, using a power saw.
An inexpensive dust mask would have been a start. I still have to work on
the sunglasses with the bifocal prescription in them....
But springtime is GREAT!
Patriarch
"Dave W" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> The allergen in cedar is a gas so wearing a filter will not stop the
> allergic problem. A (paint spray) mask incorporating activated
> charcoal filters will remove the offending chemical. And yes, cedar
> is naturally biologically active, no treatment is required to achieve
> its allergy potential and resistance to microorganisms.
>
So outside is good, no?
I've got a project to do with the Boy Scouts, making benches from a large
Western Red Cedar log, harvested and slabbed out last fall. If I
understand you correctly, we should work in a well ventilated area, or
outside.
Or what? Beyond normal precautions?
Patriarch
WP <[email protected]> wrote:
: Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
: the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
: outside.
My wife and I built a fence of Western red cedar, and had the lumber
stacked in the house for a while. She got fairly severely sensitized to
it, just with the plain boards.
-- Andy Barss
Hi WP,
I found that I was allergic to cedar dust when building a cedar lined
sauna (eastern white). It caused wheezing. I don't know if it is hazardous
but it is known for being an allergen for some people. What are you
building?
Dave
"WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
> outside.
>
> TIA
>
Is there really a Treated Cedar?
Cedar is pretty tough to deal with in confined spaces for many people when
the dust is flying.
"WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
> outside.
>
> TIA
>
On Tue, 18 May 2004 18:49:31 +0000, Dave W wrote:
> Hi WP,
> I found that I was allergic to cedar dust when building a cedar lined
> sauna (eastern white). It caused wheezing. I don't know if it is
> hazardous but it is known for being an allergen for some people. What are
> you building?
> Dave
> "WP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
>> the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my
>> cutting outside.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
Dave,
I need to finish off a small section of fence for the pen for my dog. So
I need wood that can withstand the weather without being treated so that
it will not be toxic to my dog if he decides to chew it.
On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:35:40 -0500, "WP" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Is untreated cedar saw dust hazardous? My woodshop unfortunately is in
>the basement and if cedar saw dust is hazardous I would do all my cutting
>outside.
>
>TIA
Wear a good-fitting dust mask, such as the Dustfoe and you'll be fine.
Inhaling sawdust is not a good thing.