Is it possible? Because I absolutely cannot use a table saw in
my apartment or on the patio, too many other apartments and
the noise of ripping would be far too much. So I need something
like a guide system that will take a large back saw, any such thing
exist from any company or jig maker? I only need 16" length
at the most for boards for small boxes, maybe there is a design
somewhere on the 'net?
Thanks much all,
Alex
In article <eaBqc.58736$iy5.50128@okepread05>, AArDvarK
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Is it possible? Because I absolutely cannot use a table saw in
> my apartment or on the patio, too many other apartments and
> the noise of ripping would be far too much. So I need something
> like a guide system that will take a large back saw, any such thing
> exist from any company or jig maker? I only need 16" length
> at the most for boards for small boxes, maybe there is a design
> somewhere on the 'net?
Time to practice with a handsaw along a line? (I'm not being sarcastic,
BTW)
Maybe a Japanese style Ryoba (pull) saw...
<http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=32941&category=1,42884,4289
6>
or
<http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.asp?page=32940&category=1,42884,4289
6>
Cut slightly proud of the line, then clean up with a plane?
djb
Believe it or not, my brother lives in a small condo near Carlsbad CA. and
has a complete miniature workshop in one of the small bedrooms.
He has a 6" tablesaw, 10" bandsaw, scrollsaw, routertable, jet mini lathe
and assorted other tools. He has a dust collection system and a small air
compressor. He has never had a noise complaint. He makes small boxes and
intricate inlays and shadow boxes.
Dave
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Is it possible? Because I absolutely cannot use a table saw in
> my apartment or on the patio, too many other apartments and
> the noise of ripping would be far too much. So I need something
> like a guide system that will take a large back saw, any such thing
> exist from any company or jig maker? I only need 16" length
> at the most for boards for small boxes, maybe there is a design
> somewhere on the 'net?
>
> Thanks much all,
>
> Alex
>
>
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Your best bet for ripping is a good hand saw. As far as I know there
is no jig or fixture for this kind of work that does any better than
speed square. I find myself doing this more and more rather than
dealing with the hassle of turning on my table saw. You can clean up
the edge with a plane and it will look as good as anything you will
ever see. Cross cutting can be done every bit as well with a manual
miter box saw. If you use the right saw for the job, you will be
amazed at how simple it all becomes.
Jim
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<eaBqc.58736$iy5.50128@okepread05>...
> Is it possible? Because I absolutely cannot use a table saw in
> my apartment or on the patio, too many other apartments and
> the noise of ripping would be far too much. So I need something
> like a guide system that will take a large back saw, any such thing
> exist from any company or jig maker? I only need 16" length
> at the most for boards for small boxes, maybe there is a design
> somewhere on the 'net?
>
> Thanks much all,
>
> Alex
"AArDvarK" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:eaBqc.58736$iy5.50128@okepread05:
>
> Is it possible? Because I absolutely cannot use a table saw in
> my apartment or on the patio, too many other apartments and
> the noise of ripping would be far too much. So I need something
> like a guide system that will take a large back saw, any such thing
> exist from any company or jig maker? I only need 16" length
> at the most for boards for small boxes, maybe there is a design
> somewhere on the 'net?
>
> Thanks much all,
>
> Alex
>
>
Doesn't a 'back saw' indicate a strenghtening ridge , or 'back' on the top
of the saw blade? The back saws I have still cut on the push stroke, and
are set for cross cutting.
Dave's suggestion of a Japanese style saw would seem to be the easiest, and
most available new, although the venerable Disston rip saw my father gave
me works quietly and well, when I need to work quietly and electricity
free. Or when I just need some Galloot therapy. ;-)
Patriarch,
whose Grandpa never had a Unisaw...
AArDvarK wrote:
>
> Is it possible? Because I absolutely cannot use a table saw in
> my apartment or on the patio, too many other apartments and
> the noise of ripping would be far too much. So I need something
> like a guide system that will take a large back saw, any such thing
> exist from any company or jig maker? I only need 16" length
> at the most for boards for small boxes, maybe there is a design
> somewhere on the 'net?
There are several possibilities. If you don't need a lot of cut depth a
Bosch saber saw either with a fence or mounted upside down in a table is
one possibility--with the right blade it makes a remarkably smooth cut, and
little noise--other brands may work well now--it's been a couple of decades
now since I used a saber saw that wasn't Bosch and at that time there were
two kinds of saber saw, Bosch and crap--but the Bosch is a sure thing. If
you need more depth but not a lot of width a band saw is also relatively
quiet but a good one is a good deal more expensive. You could use just a
plain old ordinary rip saw (learn to sharpen it) or make up a frame saw
<http://www.hyperkitten.com/woodworking/frame_saw.php3> (make it a good
deal longer than that one for what you seem to want to do) and add a
fence--in either case learn how to sharpen the blade--the functioning of
handsaws is strongly dependent on the set and sharpness and what comes from
the factory usually isn't very good.
> Thanks much all,
>
> Alex
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> My 18v circular saw is pretty quiet; quieter than my jigsaw. I have a
large
> aluminum guide/clamp I use for crosscutting large panels. It would work
> just as well for ripping.
Same with my 14.4 volt. Remarkably good cuts from a small blade. A guide
and patience and you can get a good job to be cleaned up with a plane. I
use the 14.4 only for some occasional use, but in your situation, the 18V or
larger would be a good plan.
Ed
Well everyone I think I get the point of what I presented as
somewhat hard to visualize. I need to replace a tablesaw for
exactly what it does, outside of miter cutting and guide,
just to be able to cut perfectly straight and accurately. I thank
you all for trying to help, and taking the time to type in
response to someone none of you know, kind souls every-
where. Mr. Clarke, that saw and your hand work is very
nice! I also love aquaria but currently have nothing set up.
I used to have a 29 gallon African Cichlid tank.
What I did finally think-up is something like a wooden miter
box, but without any miter angle slots as saw guides, just
straight ones about every inch, only on the two long side
ends of a rectangular box. The box is only about 2" cutting
depth with four walls, and clamping screws with ferruled
handles going into the sides, made from Jorgensen screw-
spindles ordered as spare parts, with the barrel nuts in the
walls. I'll have to order the largest spindles because they have
opposing threads on either sides of the center, then get
them cut in half. These will hold wood in place with wood
shims. Inside dimensions should be 16" or 20" length
x 12" or 16" wide, and 2" deep, all as internal dimensions. I
will probably need to compensate for the width size for kerf
widths, though I don't know if I need to. I have a backsaw
coming from an ebay purchase which has a cutting length of
21", should do nicely in a 16" long box idea.
Any critiques or advise on this idea?
Thanks again all,
Alex