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22/05/2004 2:02 AM

New type of particle board for cabinet construction ????

The wife forbid me to make the kitchen cabinets so she dragged me to
Lowes. The kitchen guy there was telling me that the stuff the
cabinets are made of is very different than regular particle board
they used to use. He told me he was at a sales demo and they took a
piece of the new stuff and placed it submerged in water for a full day
with no sign of absorbtion. Any comments from anyone ???
mikey


This topic has 12 replies

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Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 8:12 PM

Bridger:
>you'd think that waterproof particleboard would be such a good thing
>that it would quickly overtake the sheet goods industry.

It is a good thing but price usually drives these things and
what's sold is the cheapest available.

>my assumption is that the borg sales drones are simply lying.

I give them the benefit of the doubt and think they are all
trustful but as stoopid as a bag of hammers.

UA100

b

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 12:22 PM

On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:35:31 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Medex (States Industries?) is water "resistant". I'm not
>sure if anyone makes a "water proof".
>
>UA100
>
>



I've been hearing stories of borg salesmen making claims of total
immersion proof particle board for years now.

a lot of what I do for a living involves building and installing
kitchen cabinets in residential remodels. a lot of the time what I'm
tearing out is borg crap. I've never seen any of it that showed signs
of being particularly water resistant.

you'd think that waterproof particleboard would be such a good thing
that it would quickly overtake the sheet goods industry.


my assumption is that the borg sales drones are simply lying.

ET

"Eric Tonks"

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

21/05/2004 10:17 PM

I would want a sample of that to try soaking it myself. If it is made of
compressed sawdust I don't see how the wood part would not soak up water and
swell up as any decent compressed wood would do. Unless it is completely
impregnated with some hardened plastic resin.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The wife forbid me to make the kitchen cabinets so she dragged me to
> Lowes. The kitchen guy there was telling me that the stuff the
> cabinets are made of is very different than regular particle board
> they used to use. He told me he was at a sales demo and they took a
> piece of the new stuff and placed it submerged in water for a full day
> with no sign of absorbtion. Any comments from anyone ???
> mikey

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 6:30 AM

Variant of this stuff?

http://oikos.com/products/wood-plastics/isobord/

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The wife forbid me to make the kitchen cabinets so she dragged me to
> Lowes. The kitchen guy there was telling me that the stuff the
> cabinets are made of is very different than regular particle board
> they used to use. He told me he was at a sales demo and they took a
> piece of the new stuff and placed it submerged in water for a full day
> with no sign of absorbtion. Any comments from anyone ???
> mikey

Ss

"Søren"

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 8:54 PM

Maybe something like this

http://www.brims.com.au/brimsboard.htm
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Russ Penrose

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

25/05/2004 12:16 AM

Unisaw A100 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Medex (States Industries?) is water "resistant". I'm not
> sure if anyone makes a "water proof".
>
> UA100
>
>
>

As an FYI
Medex is -quite- water resistant. I've had a 2' x 2' piece of this
material out in the weather since last summer. Hasn't swelled up more than
a few thousands of an inch at any time. That's .003 for you math nuts.
About the size of a human hair. The GC I was doing work for said it was
waterproof and I had to experiment with it. He was hapy to hear that he was
correct. We were using it for high pressure laminates for kitchens. It did
warp some though, after a fashion. Wasn't immediate.
On another note...the new "Wheatboard" swelled up to twice its size
in practically no time at all.

O.K Then,
Russ P.

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 1:17 PM

J. Clarke wrote:
>I've seen reference to a green colored water resistant and a black
>waterproof on a UK site. Whether they're available in the US and whether
>that's a through-coloring or just surface coloring I have no idea. Nor do
>I know what standards of "resistant" and "proof" were applied.


I would suspect that the color (colour) is from the resins
used to bond the material which would be all that you could
do to make a water resistent/proof particleboard.

UA100

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 8:09 AM

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> Medex (States Industries?) is water "resistant". I'm not
> sure if anyone makes a "water proof".

I've seen reference to a green colored water resistant and a black
waterproof on a UK site. Whether they're available in the US and whether
that's a through-coloring or just surface coloring I have no idea. Nor do
I know what standards of "resistant" and "proof" were applied.

> UA100

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--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 2:19 PM

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> J. Clarke wrote:
>>I've seen reference to a green colored water resistant and a black
>>waterproof on a UK site. Whether they're available in the US and whether
>>that's a through-coloring or just surface coloring I have no idea. Nor do
>>I know what standards of "resistant" and "proof" were applied.
>
>
> I would suspect that the color (colour) is from the resins
> used to bond the material which would be all that you could
> do to make a water resistent/proof particleboard.

I would suspect that as well, but what I suspect and what is true are not
always the same--it could be a color-code.
>
> UA100

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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 7:43 PM

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> Bridger:
>>you'd think that waterproof particleboard would be such a good thing
>>that it would quickly overtake the sheet goods industry.
>
> It is a good thing but price usually drives these things and
> what's sold is the cheapest available.
>
>>my assumption is that the borg sales drones are simply lying.
>
> I give them the benefit of the doubt and think they are all
> trustful but as stoopid as a bag of hammers.

Difference between a used car salesmen and a Borgroid is that the used car
salesman _knows_ when he is lying.

> UA100

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 11:35 AM

Medex (States Industries?) is water "resistant". I'm not
sure if anyone makes a "water proof".

UA100


MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] on 22/05/2004 2:02 AM

22/05/2004 1:39 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> The wife forbid me to make the kitchen cabinets so she dragged
> me to Lowes. The kitchen guy there was telling me that the
> stuff the cabinets are made of is very different than regular
> particle board they used to use. He told me he was at a sales
> demo and they took a piece of the new stuff and placed it
> submerged in water for a full day with no sign of absorbtion.
> Any comments from anyone ??? mikey

DAGS: Extira

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Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA


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