JH

"Jeff Harper"

29/12/2004 7:09 PM

OT - Tsunami aid - Good karma

Direct Relief International is one of the organizations helping the hundreds
of thousands of Tsunami victims. I recommend donating through them, as they
are highly respected and received a 100% efficiency rating from Forbes: Less
than 1% of the money they receive goes toward administrative and advertising
costs. Additionally, they have corporate sponsors who match contributions
by private individuals: "In 2003, Direct Relief International was able to
deliver $3,400 in medical aid for every $100 donated!"

Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as well.

http://www.directrelief.org/sections/support_us/donate.html

Thanks,

Jeff


This topic has 16 replies

MJ

"Mark Jerde"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

30/12/2004 6:14 PM

D. J. Dorn wrote:
> I'm sure he was being sarcastic, but you're right about them being a
> non-issue. In my opinion, something like this that changes the earths
> rotation and kills 120,000 people is truly fire and brimstone kind of
> stuff. Makes me wonder !

I don't know, but I suspect 9.x earthquakes are relatively minor events
compared to other things that happened in geologic time. I suspect mother
earth can topple skyscrapers with or without asteroid impact. Just a
hunch...


-- Mark

DJ

"D. J. Dorn"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

30/12/2004 12:03 PM

I'm sure he was being sarcastic, but you're right about them being a
non-issue. In my opinion, something like this that changes the earths
rotation and kills 120,000 people is truly fire and brimstone kind of stuff.
Makes me wonder !

Don

"GregP" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:26:41 +0900, "Adam Weber"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>I've heard a lot about governments', companies' and private organizations'
>>huge, generous donations on the radio...just wondering...how much has Al
>>Qaeda promised to send?
>
>
> Who the f**k cares what al kyda is sending ? Or do you
> usually use murderers as your personal standard of
> behavior ?
>

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

01/01/2005 1:53 AM

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Just an FYI...Paypal just today put a link on their home page where you
> >could donate to UNICEF for tsunami relief. I generally keep a balance in
my
> >Paypal account, so it made it painless to kick in $100. When it's in
> >Paypal, it's like Monopoly (R) money anyway.
> >
> >todd
> >
>
> For those making donations, please make sure that you are donating
> through an organization with which you are confident that the money will
> get to those who are in need. There are going to be lots of scammers and
> folks who are going to skim off a large percentage for "administrative
> fees" with only a small percentage of donations going for the intended
> work. Just be careful.
>
> Disclaimer: This is not intended as a commentary on UNICEF, I don't know
> what their overhead is. I certainly hope it is not like other UN
> organizations that take large portions off the top for friends and
> co-workers.

I checked out all of the large relief organizations before I contributed.
One of the money magazines had a ranking of the various relief organizations
based on a few factors including their efficiency ratio. UNICEF was #2
behind an organization I've never heard of. Fortunately, this sort of aid
is just about the only thing the United Nations does reasonably well.

todd

Db

"DamnYankeeBastard"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

30/12/2004 2:04 PM


"Adam Weber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jeff Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Direct Relief International is one of the organizations helping the
> hundreds
> > of thousands of Tsunami victims. I recommend donating through them, as
> they
> > are highly respected and received a 100% efficiency rating from Forbes:
> Less
> > than 1% of the money they receive goes toward administrative and
> advertising
> > costs. Additionally, they have corporate sponsors who match
contributions
> > by private individuals: "In 2003, Direct Relief International was able
to
> > deliver $3,400 in medical aid for every $100 donated!"
> >
> > Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
> > contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
> > today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as
> well.
> >
> > http://www.directrelief.org/sections/support_us/donate.html
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
>
> Amazon.com offers a '1-click' donation service as well. They state that
100%
> goes to American Red Cross, if that floats your boat.
>
> I've heard a lot about governments', companies' and private organizations'
> huge, generous donations on the radio...just wondering...how much has Al
> Qaeda promised to send?
>

They probably are trying to figure out a way to take credit for it.

Bryan

JH

"Jeff Harper"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

31/12/2004 3:13 PM


"Maverick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I kicked in a hundred bucks. I guess every little bit counts and gosh
knows
> those poor folks need all the help they can get right now.
>
> I'm pushing 70 and I can not remember anything so terrible as this
disaster.


Thank you very, very much Maverick. I hope you have some great holidays.

With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and literally
*millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters. Your $100
will help *profoundly* in that region of the world. It may go toward food
or shelter or antibiotics that save more than one child's life.

Thanks again. And I hope your post encourages at least a few others to also
help.

Jeff

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

JH

"Jeff Harper"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

31/12/2004 8:15 PM


"Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jeff Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Maverick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I kicked in a hundred bucks. I guess every little bit counts and gosh
> > knows
> > > those poor folks need all the help they can get right now.
> > >
> > > I'm pushing 70 and I can not remember anything so terrible as this
> > disaster.
> >
> >
> > Thank you very, very much Maverick. I hope you have some great
holidays.
> >
> > With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
> literally
> > *millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters. Your
$100
> > will help *profoundly* in that region of the world. It may go toward
food
> > or shelter or antibiotics that save more than one child's life.
> >
> > Thanks again. And I hope your post encourages at least a few others to
> also
> > help.
>
> > Jeff Harper
> > Tampa, FL
>
> Just an FYI...Paypal just today put a link on their home page where you
> could donate to UNICEF for tsunami relief. I generally keep a balance in
my
> Paypal account, so it made it painless to kick in $100. When it's in
> Paypal, it's like Monopoly (R) money anyway.
>
> todd

Todd, I recall disagreeing with your politics a couple months back, but I
have to admit that you have your heart in the right place after all.

Thank you for helping these folks in such miserable, desperate conditions.
(And thank you for publicly setting a positive example.)

Jeff

AW

"Adam Weber"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

30/12/2004 7:26 PM


"Jeff Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Direct Relief International is one of the organizations helping the
hundreds
> of thousands of Tsunami victims. I recommend donating through them, as
they
> are highly respected and received a 100% efficiency rating from Forbes:
Less
> than 1% of the money they receive goes toward administrative and
advertising
> costs. Additionally, they have corporate sponsors who match contributions
> by private individuals: "In 2003, Direct Relief International was able to
> deliver $3,400 in medical aid for every $100 donated!"
>
> Here's the link to their online donation page. If you can spare a small
> contribution this holiday season, please consider donating to them
> today--the sooner the better. And please encourage others to do so as
well.
>
> http://www.directrelief.org/sections/support_us/donate.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>

Amazon.com offers a '1-click' donation service as well. They state that 100%
goes to American Red Cross, if that floats your boat.

I've heard a lot about governments', companies' and private organizations'
huge, generous donations on the radio...just wondering...how much has Al
Qaeda promised to send?

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

01/01/2005 4:22 PM

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 14:29:54 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:53:42 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ... snip
>> >
... snip
>>
>> That's good to hear. Do you recall where Red Cross fell?
>
>Did you ever look at something on the internet, and then for the life of
>you, not be able to find it again?

Oh no, not me, never, uh-uh. My browser, OTOH, has lost lots of sites.
;-)

> I swear the site has been expunged from
>my browser history and the internet as well. In any case, I did find
>www.charitynavigator.org. They rate both the US Fund for UNICEF and the
>American Red Cross as 4-stars (their highest rating). You can check out
>their site for details on their ratings. US Fund for UNICEF has an
>efficiency of about 89% and the ARC has a 91% efficiency. They categorize
>them differently, however. The put UNICEF in "International relief and
>development" and ARC in "Multipurpose Human Service Organization". I don't
>think you can go wrong either way.
>
>todd
>

Thanks for the info.


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Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Gg

GregP

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

01/01/2005 3:51 PM

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 14:29:54 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Did you ever look at something on the internet, and then for the life of
>you, not be able to find it again? I swear the site has been expunged from
>my browser history and the internet as well. In any case, I did find
>www.charitynavigator.org. They rate both the US Fund for UNICEF and the
>American Red Cross as 4-stars (their highest rating). You can check out
>their site for details on their ratings. US Fund for UNICEF has an
>efficiency of about 89% and the ARC has a 91% efficiency. They categorize
>them differently, however. The put UNICEF in "International relief and
>development" and ARC in "Multipurpose Human Service Organization". I don't
>think you can go wrong either way.
>

Charitynavigator is a good site tho half of its evaluation is based
on whether or not the charity is growing and how much money it
has in reserve. Forbes magazine rates charity/relief organizations
each year, and there are at least half a dozen other such sites on
the web.

The Red Cross has an international fund. My wife & I contributed
to that and UNICEF. I think that in a really large-scale disaster
like this, where there is a big inflow of money and a lot of it
should be applied quickly, large organizations like this are
best-suited to ramping up to meet the challenge, as long as
they are not weighed down by bureaucracy. For instance,
UNICEF has caches of filled water tanks in Asia for emergencies
like this.

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

01/01/2005 2:30 AM

"Jeff Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Just an FYI...Paypal just today put a link on their home page where you
> > could donate to UNICEF for tsunami relief. I generally keep a balance
in
> my
> > Paypal account, so it made it painless to kick in $100. When it's in
> > Paypal, it's like Monopoly (R) money anyway.
> >
> > todd
>
> Todd, I recall disagreeing with your politics a couple months back, but I
> have to admit that you have your heart in the right place after all.

Now, there's a left-handed compliment if I ever heard one.

> Thank you for helping these folks in such miserable, desperate conditions.
> (And thank you for publicly setting a positive example.)
>
> Jeff

With the largest loss of life in roughly 30 years, it's difficult to
overestimate the impact this event has caused. When I look through the list
of recent natural disasters, I start to wonder "where the hell was I" when
some of these took place. I mean, I was 24 in 1991 when a tsunami hit
Bangladesh and killed 138,000, but I have no recollection of that. I'll
give myself a break on the 1976 earthquake in China that killed 242,000,
since I was only 9. So, when you think about it, most of us here have got
it pretty good.

todd

Mj

"Maverick"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

30/12/2004 8:38 PM

I kicked in a hundred bucks. I guess every little bit counts and gosh knows
those poor folks need all the help they can get right now.

I'm pushing 70 and I can not remember anything so terrible as this disaster.


--
Maverick


MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

31/12/2004 6:19 PM

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:26:07 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
wrote:

... snip
>
>Just an FYI...Paypal just today put a link on their home page where you
>could donate to UNICEF for tsunami relief. I generally keep a balance in my
>Paypal account, so it made it painless to kick in $100. When it's in
>Paypal, it's like Monopoly (R) money anyway.
>
>todd
>

For those making donations, please make sure that you are donating
through an organization with which you are confident that the money will
get to those who are in need. There are going to be lots of scammers and
folks who are going to skim off a large percentage for "administrative
fees" with only a small percentage of donations going for the intended
work. Just be careful.

Disclaimer: This is not intended as a commentary on UNICEF, I don't know
what their overhead is. I certainly hope it is not like other UN
organizations that take large portions off the top for friends and
co-workers.





+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

01/01/2005 2:29 PM

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:53:42 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> ... snip
> >
> >I checked out all of the large relief organizations before I contributed.
> >One of the money magazines had a ranking of the various relief
organizations
> >based on a few factors including their efficiency ratio. UNICEF was #2
> >behind an organization I've never heard of. Fortunately, this sort of
aid
> >is just about the only thing the United Nations does reasonably well.
> >
> >todd
> >
>
> That's good to hear. Do you recall where Red Cross fell?

Did you ever look at something on the internet, and then for the life of
you, not be able to find it again? I swear the site has been expunged from
my browser history and the internet as well. In any case, I did find
www.charitynavigator.org. They rate both the US Fund for UNICEF and the
American Red Cross as 4-stars (their highest rating). You can check out
their site for details on their ratings. US Fund for UNICEF has an
efficiency of about 89% and the ARC has a 91% efficiency. They categorize
them differently, however. The put UNICEF in "International relief and
development" and ARC in "Multipurpose Human Service Organization". I don't
think you can go wrong either way.

todd

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

01/01/2005 12:11 PM

On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 01:53:42 -0600, "Todd Fatheree" <[email protected]>
wrote:

... snip
>
>I checked out all of the large relief organizations before I contributed.
>One of the money magazines had a ranking of the various relief organizations
>based on a few factors including their efficiency ratio. UNICEF was #2
>behind an organization I've never heard of. Fortunately, this sort of aid
>is just about the only thing the United Nations does reasonably well.
>
>todd
>

That's good to hear. Do you recall where Red Cross fell?




+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Now we'll just use some glue to hold things in place until the brads dry

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Gg

GregP

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

30/12/2004 12:56 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:26:41 +0900, "Adam Weber"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I've heard a lot about governments', companies' and private organizations'
>huge, generous donations on the radio...just wondering...how much has Al
>Qaeda promised to send?


Who the f**k cares what al kyda is sending ? Or do you
usually use murderers as your personal standard of
behavior ?

TF

"Todd Fatheree"

in reply to "Jeff Harper" on 29/12/2004 7:09 PM

31/12/2004 3:26 PM

"Jeff Harper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Maverick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I kicked in a hundred bucks. I guess every little bit counts and gosh
> knows
> > those poor folks need all the help they can get right now.
> >
> > I'm pushing 70 and I can not remember anything so terrible as this
> disaster.
>
>
> Thank you very, very much Maverick. I hope you have some great holidays.
>
> With an expected death toll of 200,000, more injured and sick, and
literally
> *millions* homeless, this is the worst of the worst disasters. Your $100
> will help *profoundly* in that region of the world. It may go toward food
> or shelter or antibiotics that save more than one child's life.
>
> Thanks again. And I hope your post encourages at least a few others to
also
> help.

> Jeff Harper
> Tampa, FL

Just an FYI...Paypal just today put a link on their home page where you
could donate to UNICEF for tsunami relief. I generally keep a balance in my
Paypal account, so it made it painless to kick in $100. When it's in
Paypal, it's like Monopoly (R) money anyway.

todd


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