Ta

"Tattooed and Dusty"

13/10/2005 11:44 AM

Keeping my tools rust free

So I looked around the archives some, and didn't find an answer to
this, sorry if I missed something obvious.

I am planning to transition all my nice hand tools into a series of
wall cabinets with glass doors, and am trying to find a good way to
keep the inside of the cases dry. I like in Portland, Or and work in a
basement location, that gets really humid sometimes. I am tried of
reaching for an odd plane or chisel only to find surface rust on it.

I come from a science background, and am used to using a compound
called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap and
easy to order. Basically I would place a container of it at the base of
each cabinet, and it would soak up moisture. It has to be recharged
every "so often" but is relatively easy to do. Has anyone used this
product for this purpose? Is there something easier, cheaper, or better
I should look into.

Thanks in advance for the help

Andrew


This topic has 13 replies

Ta

"Tattooed and Dusty"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

13/10/2005 3:35 PM

How sealed is sealed? I am currently using packets of desiccant that
came with the last large power tool I purchased, and they seem to be
working. There is a gap (1/8") entirely around each of the two doors?

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 5:36 AM

I have a fireproof safe that was genrating mold on the papers stored in
there. I fixed it using tidy-cat crystals in one of SWMBO's knee-his.
Works great!

http://www.tidycats.com/GetPage.aspx?ContentID=105

Ta

"Tattooed and Dusty"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 11:41 AM

As the OP it's kinda funny to me the course this thread has taken. If
at all possible I would like to find a solution that's really simple,
and doesn't involve ongoing energy expendetures. I suppose that's not
possible. I guess I should have really phrased the question something
more like, does anyone know of a better desiccant than Drierite? Or
something like that. I am looking for simple and largely effective, not
a solution to keep my tools pristine for a decade of neglect. I use
them daily, just want a way to slow down the effects of humidity.

Ahh, sorry if I am babbling. Thanks for the comments either way, I
guess I should just order some Drierite and let you guys know how it
works.

Andrew

DW

"Dave W"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 11:17 AM

Drierite, at least the redry type, is not something you can dispose of
easily. Additionally, it works best in closed containers. Unless the
cabinet is sealed pretty well and is seldom opened, you will be regenerating
the drierite often.

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 9:35 PM

Tattooed and Dusty wrote:
> As the OP it's kinda funny to me the course this thread has taken. If
> at all possible I would like to find a solution that's really simple,
> and doesn't involve ongoing energy expendetures. I suppose that's not
> possible. I guess I should have really phrased the question something
> more like, does anyone know of a better desiccant than Drierite? Or
> something like that. I am looking for simple and largely effective,
> not a solution to keep my tools pristine for a decade of neglect. I
> use them daily, just want a way to slow down the effects of humidity.
>
> Ahh, sorry if I am babbling. Thanks for the comments either way, I
> guess I should just order some Drierite and let you guys know how it
> works.
>
> Andrew

Well if you don't mind having the blades hidden? how about a polystyrene
rack whereby the blades sit in a tight fit sheath.

--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

RM

"Ron Magen"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 9:50 PM


"Tattooed and Dusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As the OP it's kinda funny to me the course this thread has taken. If
> at all possible I would like to find a solution that's really simple,
> and doesn't involve ongoing energy expendetures. I suppose that's not
> possible. I guess I should have really phrased the question something
> more like, does anyone know of a better desiccant than Drierite? Or
> something like that. I am looking for simple and largely effective, not
> a solution to keep my tools pristine for a decade of neglect. I use
> them daily, just want a way to slow down the effects of humidity.
>
> Ahh, sorry if I am babbling. Thanks for the comments either way, I
> guess I should just order some Drierite and let you guys know how it
> works.
>
> Andrew
>

TE

"The3rd Earl Of Derby"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

13/10/2005 11:44 PM

Tattooed and Dusty wrote:
> So I looked around the archives some, and didn't find an answer to
> this, sorry if I missed something obvious.
>
> I am planning to transition all my nice hand tools into a series of
> wall cabinets with glass doors, and am trying to find a good way to
> keep the inside of the cases dry. I like in Portland, Or and work in a
> basement location, that gets really humid sometimes. I am tried of
> reaching for an odd plane or chisel only to find surface rust on it.
>
> I come from a science background, and am used to using a compound
> called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap
> and easy to order. Basically I would place a container of it at the
> base of each cabinet, and it would soak up moisture. It has to be
> recharged every "so often" but is relatively easy to do. Has anyone
> used this product for this purpose? Is there something easier,
> cheaper, or better I should look into.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help
>
> Andrew

How about a dehumidifier?
--
Sir Benjamin Middlethwaite

MB

Mike Berger

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

13/10/2005 4:46 PM

If the cabinet isn't sealed, the silica gel won't do you much good.
It won't bring the overall humidity of the whole shop down and won't
have a localized effect in an unsealed cabinet.

Tattooed and Dusty wrote:
> I come from a science background, and am used to using a compound
> called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap and
> easy to order. Basically I would place a container of it at the base of
> each cabinet, and it would soak up moisture. It has to be recharged
> every "so often" but is relatively easy to do. Has anyone used this
> product for this purpose? Is there something easier, cheaper, or better
> I should look into.

j

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 9:48 PM

Go to a arts and craft store, buy about 20pounds of the silica pellets
they use for burying and drying flowers, same basic stuff you get in
the little pouches in electronics cartons

Put in the new screw top ziplock containers with a gracious plenty of
holes drilled/poked thru the top of the lid and put inside the case.
Every few months pull out, put in a 200degree over to re-dry the
pellets and put back in

And on top of that, go to Brownells and buy the VPI rust blocker tabs
and toss a few into each case

John


On 13 Oct 2005 11:44:27 -0700, "Tattooed and Dusty"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>So I looked around the archives some, and didn't find an answer to
>this, sorry if I missed something obvious.
>
>I am planning to transition all my nice hand tools into a series of
>wall cabinets with glass doors, and am trying to find a good way to
>keep the inside of the cases dry. I like in Portland, Or and work in a
>basement location, that gets really humid sometimes. I am tried of
>reaching for an odd plane or chisel only to find surface rust on it.
>
>I come from a science background, and am used to using a compound
>called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap and
>easy to order. Basically I would place a container of it at the base of
>each cabinet, and it would soak up moisture. It has to be recharged
>every "so often" but is relatively easy to do. Has anyone used this
>product for this purpose? Is there something easier, cheaper, or better
>I should look into.
>
>Thanks in advance for the help
>
>Andrew

JF

"John Flatley"

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 11:57 AM

I have great success using small camphor blocks in the drawers of my four
roll-around chests. They protect my hand tools and corded tools. My
playpen is a garage. In Florida.

I get the Humco Camphor Gum Blocks (made in China) from a local pharmacy.
They are not inexpensive. But they work.

The key is to stay ahead of the rust. I use Top Saver and Slip-It on the
machined surfaces of my stationary tools.
I keep Boeshield T-9, Rust Off, Rust Free and Navel Jelly around and use
them occasionally. I had used an adjustable crescent wrench a while back
and sprayed it with Boeshield. When I went to use it yesterday, I could not
adjust it because it was "frozen." A few minutes with WD-40 freed it up.
(I put the Boeshield in the back of the cabinet shelf.) My next project,
that keeps getting delayed, is to experiment using electrolysis to remove
rust from some small tools and parts.

Jack
Jacksonville, Florida

--
I've never learned anything from someone who agreed with me.
"Tattooed and Dusty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I looked around the archives some, and didn't find an answer to
> this, sorry if I missed something obvious.
>
> I am planning to transition all my nice hand tools into a series of
> wall cabinets with glass doors, and am trying to find a good way to
> keep the inside of the cases dry. I like in Portland, Or and work in a
> basement location, that gets really humid sometimes. I am tried of
> reaching for an odd plane or chisel only to find surface rust on it.
>
> I come from a science background, and am used to using a compound
> called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap and
> easy to order. Basically I would place a container of it at the base of
> each cabinet, and it would soak up moisture. It has to be recharged
> every "so often" but is relatively easy to do. Has anyone used this
> product for this purpose? Is there something easier, cheaper, or better
> I should look into.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help
>
> Andrew
>

As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

13/10/2005 2:55 PM

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:44:27 -0700, Tattooed and Dusty wrote:

> called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap and

Lee Valley gardening catalog has pretty much the same stuff. Go with
Drierite.

As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

13/10/2005 6:35 PM

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:35:32 -0700, Tattooed and Dusty wrote:

> How sealed is sealed?

Yes, dessicant works best in a sealed environment. OP probably used it in
bell or vacuum jars. I did. As to exchange between the closed case and the
general shop atmosphere, that's a basic rate calculation. pV=nRT and all
that. If the OP has a lab background, he'll be tickled pink (or blue) to
run the experiment for us. My guess is that yes, it won't work as well as
a sealed chamber, and yes, it'll help his rust problem. As long as the
dessicant isn't yet saturated, it'll maintain the low humidity.

--
"Keep your ass behind you"
vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Tattooed and Dusty" on 13/10/2005 11:44 AM

14/10/2005 4:59 PM

On 13 Oct 2005 11:44:27 -0700, "Tattooed and Dusty"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>So I looked around the archives some, and didn't find an answer to
>this, sorry if I missed something obvious.
>
>I am planning to transition all my nice hand tools into a series of
>wall cabinets with glass doors, and am trying to find a good way to
>keep the inside of the cases dry. I like in Portland, Or and work in a
>basement location, that gets really humid sometimes. I am tried of
>reaching for an odd plane or chisel only to find surface rust on it.
>
>I come from a science background, and am used to using a compound
>called Drierite. I looked into ordering it for home use, it's cheap and
>easy to order. Basically I would place a container of it at the base of
>each cabinet, and it would soak up moisture. It has to be recharged
>every "so often" but is relatively easy to do. Has anyone used this
>product for this purpose? Is there something easier, cheaper, or better
>I should look into.
>
>Thanks in advance for the help
>
>Andrew

I have kept watches and other small items in a dessicator. It works
well. But for a tool cabinet, I'd think your idea would work with
some maintenance (ie, drying the tubs in an oven). If you can keep
the inside of the cabinet warmer than the surrounding area, that will
help keep it dry. You could put a piano dryer inside each cabinet.
These are devices used when pianos are put into storage and provide a
little heat. You could probably get the same result with a 3 watt
light bulb in each cabinet. It also helps to wipe each tool with a
rag dampened with kerosene--be sure to dispose of the rag properly.


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