EE

Ehvee8or

05/12/2003 5:18 PM

SWMBO Gloat (and some questions)

Hi folks,

I've got some gloating to do, then I have a couple of questions.

GLOAT MODE ON

A couple of weeks ago, SWMBO and I were laying in bed one weekend
morning, drinking our coffee and watching Norm build an Adirondack
love seat. I suggested that it would make a nice replacement to the
delapidated bench sitting in front of the house that we got from the
Borg a few years ago. She agreed. As I watched the construction
proceed, I soon realized my current tool inventory was not up to the
task. There's a lot of curved pieces in this project, and I don't have
a bandsaw.

"I might be able to build it if I had a decent jigsaw, but the one I
have is a POS" I murmured between sips of coffee. It's a 20+ year old
teeny tiny Craftsman with a shoe that won't stay at a right angle to
the blade, and vibrates so badly that any tools laying on the
workbench have to be tied down to keep them from falling of the edge.
Its ability to actually *cut* anything, even with a new blade, also
leaves a lot to be desired. "Well you should get a new one" she said.

Having recently received a couple of HD gift cards as a result of some
hand tool purchases, I merrily invaded the Borg hive and picked up a
Bosch 1587AVSP. Oh baby. The difference between this thing and my old
POS is like the difference between driving a Cadillac and a .....
roller skate. And, as luck would have it, it was packaged with a
couple of "free" clamps. As long as I was there, and since the jigsaw
was almost free (due to the gift cards) I was pretty easily able to
talk myself into a PC 333 ROS to complement/upgrade the B&D 1/4 sheet
finish sander I've been using for years. I haven't taken it out of the
box yet, but it won't be long.

Well, yesterday the plans and video for the love seat arrived in the
mail. After watching the video a bit more carefully, and looking at
the plans, I realized the jigsaw wasn't going to cut it (pun
intended). "Hey honey, I'm not going to be able to do this with a
jigsaw. I need a bandsaw......and a planer". "Okay, get what you
need". Gawd, you gotta love her.

About 15 minutes later, my new bandsaw was ordered. As I speak, a
Grizzly G0555 complete with riser kit and movable base is being
picked, packed, and readied for delivery to sunny Tampa Florida. I
haven't quite picked a planer yet, but I'm leaning heavily toward the
Ryobi. The consensus in the group seems to be that it is a pretty good
machine for the money, and I've spent a sh*t load of money lately on
tools, so this might be a good opportunity to save a few bucks. After
all, I still have to buy some good bandsaw blades, Duginske's book,
and even though SWMBO and I decided to forego exchanging Xmas gifts in
favor of recarpeting the house, I'm feeling the need to go to the
jewelry store to show my appreciation.

GLOAT MODE OFF

QUESTION MODE ON

I need some advice on bandsaw blades. By all accounts, it seems
Timberwolf blades are the way to go, but the selection seems a bit
overwhelming. Since this love seat is going to get painted, I plan to
make it out of PT pine instead of the Cypress Norm calls for. My
immediate need then is for a blade to cut fairly large radius curves
in 1 to 1.5 inch PT. Future projects undoubtably will call for smaller
radius curves in harder wood and some resawing. I'm looking to buy two
or three blades, and I'd like some suggestions on blade width/tooth
count combinations to get me started.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I've got a Makita 3612BR router that's
about ten years old. Until recently, it sat unused in the garage for
about 6-7 years. When I put any kind of significant load on it, I can
see sparks through the vents in the top of the motor housing. With no
or very little load, I don't see them. I checked the brushes and they
have a good 3/8" left on them before they wear down to the little
replacement indicators. Are the sparks normal? Am I trying to remove
too much material too fast? My most recent experience was cutting a
groove 3/8" deep (in one pass) with a new 1/2" straight bit in PT
pine.

QUESTION MODE OFF

If you made it this far, thanks for your kind attention.




This topic has 10 replies

KC

Kevin Craig

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 6:16 AM

In article <[email protected]>, Ehvee8or
<[email protected]> wrote:

> "Hey honey, I'm not going to be able to do this with a
> jigsaw. I need a bandsaw......and a planer". "Okay, get what you
> need". Gawd, you gotta love her.
>
> About 15 minutes later, my new bandsaw was ordered. As I speak, a
> Grizzly G0555 complete with riser kit and movable base is being
> picked, packed, and readied for delivery to sunny Tampa Florida.

Yeah, that riser kit is critical to sawing flat curved parts, eh? ;-)

The bandsaw was a gloat. The add-ons amount to a drive-by neener. <G>


> I
> haven't quite picked a planer yet, but I'm leaning heavily toward the
> Ryobi. The consensus in the group seems to be that it is a pretty good
> machine for the money, and I've spent a sh*t load of money lately on
> tools, so this might be a good opportunity to save a few bucks.

Not that I've bought one, but I've been studying up for the day when I
have some extra cash. I've reached the conclusion that there's no
reason to buy anything between the Ryobi AP1300 and the DeWalt 735. If
I have the cash for the latter, you can bet I'm getting it... if not,
I'll take the former and be very happy with it. After all, I'm very
happy with my BT3100, although if I'd had the cash for a Unisaw, I'd
certainly have gone that route instead.

Kevin

WJ

[email protected] (Joe "Woody" Woodpecker)

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

05/12/2003 8:12 PM

one tip for your BS/ Get a blade stablizer from TWC (The Woodworkers
Choice) and be sure to use a low tension blade. If you install
everything like the instructions say, you will be using your BS like a
scroll saw. If you don;t have the stablizer, good luck on cutting a
straight line.

BTW, has it cost you more to build the love seat by spending the money
on tools or could you have spent less on just buying one?

--


SWMBO Gloat (and some questions)

Group: rec.woodworking Date: Fri, Dec 5, 2003, 5:18pm (MST+2) From:
[email protected] (Ehvee8or)
Hi folks,
I've got some gloating to do, then I have a couple of questions.

GLOAT MODE ON

A couple of weeks ago, SWMBO and I were laying in bed one weekend
morning, drinking our coffee and watching Norm build an Adirondack love
seat. I suggested that it would make a nice replacement to the
delapidated bench sitting in front of the house that we got from the
Borg a few years ago. She agreed. As I watched the construction proceed,
I soon realized my current tool inventory was not up to the task.
There's a lot of curved pieces in this project, and I don't have a
bandsaw.

"I might be able to build it if I had a decent jigsaw, but the one I
have is a POS" I murmured between sips of coffee. It's a 20+ year old
teeny tiny Craftsman with a shoe that won't stay at a right angle to the
blade, and vibrates so badly that any tools laying on the workbench have
to be tied down to keep them from falling of the edge. Its ability to
actually *cut* anything, even with a new blade, also leaves a lot to be
desired. "Well you should get a new one" she said.

Having recently received a couple of HD gift cards as a result of some
hand tool purchases, I merrily invaded the Borg hive and picked up a
Bosch 1587AVSP. Oh baby. The difference between this thing and my old
POS is like the difference between driving a Cadillac and a ..... roller
skate. And, as luck would have it, it was packaged with a couple of
"free" clamps. As long as I was there, and since the jigsaw was almost
free (due to the gift cards) I was pretty easily able to talk myself
into a PC 333 ROS to complement/upgrade the B&D 1/4 sheet finish sander
I've been using for years. I haven't taken it out of the box yet, but it
won't be long.
Well, yesterday the plans and video for the love seat arrived in the
mail. After watching the video a bit more carefully, and looking at the
plans, I realized the jigsaw wasn't going to cut it (pun intended). "Hey
honey, I'm not going to be able to do this with a jigsaw. I need a
bandsaw......and a planer". "Okay, get what you need". Gawd, you gotta
love her.

About 15 minutes later, my new bandsaw was ordered. As I speak, a
Grizzly G0555 complete with riser kit and movable base is being picked,
packed, and readied for delivery to sunny Tampa Florida. I haven't quite
picked a planer yet, but I'm leaning heavily toward the Ryobi. The
consensus in the group seems to be that it is a pretty good machine for
the money, and I've spent a sh*t load of money lately on tools, so this
might be a good opportunity to save a few bucks. After all, I still have
to buy some good bandsaw blades, Duginske's book, and even though SWMBO
and I decided to forego exchanging Xmas gifts in favor of recarpeting
the house, I'm feeling the need to go to the jewelry store to show my
appreciation.

GLOAT MODE OFF

QUESTION MODE ON

I need some advice on bandsaw blades. By all accounts, it seems
Timberwolf blades are the way to go, but the selection seems a bit
overwhelming. Since this love seat is going to get painted, I plan to
make it out of PT pine instead of the Cypress Norm calls for. My
immediate need then is for a blade to cut fairly large radius curves in
1 to 1.5 inch PT. Future projects undoubtably will call for smaller
radius curves in harder wood and some resawing. I'm looking to buy two
or three blades, and I'd like some suggestions on blade width/tooth
count combinations to get me started.

On a somewhat unrelated note, I've got a Makita 3612BR router that's
about ten years old. Until recently, it sat unused in the garage for
about 6-7 years. When I put any kind of significant load on it, I can
see sparks through the vents in the top of the motor housing. With no or
very little load, I don't see them. I checked the brushes and they have
a good 3/8" left on them before they wear down to the little replacement
indicators. Are the sparks normal? Am I trying to remove too much
material too fast? My most recent experience was cutting a groove 3/8"
deep (in one pass) with a new 1/2" straight bit in PT pine.

QUESTION MODE OFF

If you made it this far, thanks for your kind attention.

--
Woody


Check out my Web Page at:

http://community-1.webtv.net/WoodworkerJoe/WoodworkerJoesInfo

Where you will find:

******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03

* * * Build a $20 DC Separator Can Lid. 1-14-03
* * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
* * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
* * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
* * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
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* * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03

EE

Ehvee8or

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 7:14 AM

On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 20:12:48 -0700 (MST), [email protected] (Joe
"Woody" Woodpecker) wrote:

>one tip for your BS/ Get a blade stablizer from TWC (The Woodworkers
>Choice) and be sure to use a low tension blade. If you install
>everything like the instructions say, you will be using your BS like a
>scroll saw. If you don;t have the stablizer, good luck on cutting a
>straight line.

Thanks for the tip. I'll look into that.

>BTW, has it cost you more to build the love seat by spending the money
>on tools or could you have spent less on just buying one?

In the past four months, I figure I've spent about $3000 on tools so I
could install some chair rail, and make some cabinets in the garage,
some shelves for the kids' rooms, some flower planters, and the
upcoming love seat. I coulda bought all of the stuff outright for a
lot less, but where's the fun in that? Besides, she says the tools are
an investment and their cost has to be amortized over everything I
make for many years to come. Who am I to argue?

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 1:26 AM

Ehvee8or wrote:

> and even though SWMBO and I decided to forego exchanging Xmas gifts in
> favor of recarpeting the house, I'm feeling the need to go to the
> jewelry store to show my appreciation.

Yeah. YMMV, but if she says "oh, that's OK, you don't have to buy me
anything" you'd better get your ass to the store ASAP. :)

BTW, you suck!

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 4:49 AM

Who ever said that woodworking was about saving money??

dave

Joe Woody Woodpecker wrote:

> one tip for your BS/ Get a blade stablizer from TWC (The Woodworkers
> Choice) and be sure to use a low tension blade. If you install
> everything like the instructions say, you will be using your BS like a
> scroll saw. If you don;t have the stablizer, good luck on cutting a
> straight line.
>
> BTW, has it cost you more to build the love seat by spending the money
> on tools or could you have spent less on just buying one?
>
> --
>
>
> SWMBO Gloat (and some questions)
>
> Group: rec.woodworking Date: Fri, Dec 5, 2003, 5:18pm (MST+2) From:
> [email protected] (Ehvee8or)
> Hi folks,
> I've got some gloating to do, then I have a couple of questions.
>
> GLOAT MODE ON
>
> A couple of weeks ago, SWMBO and I were laying in bed one weekend
> morning, drinking our coffee and watching Norm build an Adirondack love
> seat. I suggested that it would make a nice replacement to the
> delapidated bench sitting in front of the house that we got from the
> Borg a few years ago. She agreed. As I watched the construction proceed,
> I soon realized my current tool inventory was not up to the task.
> There's a lot of curved pieces in this project, and I don't have a
> bandsaw.
>
> "I might be able to build it if I had a decent jigsaw, but the one I
> have is a POS" I murmured between sips of coffee. It's a 20+ year old
> teeny tiny Craftsman with a shoe that won't stay at a right angle to the
> blade, and vibrates so badly that any tools laying on the workbench have
> to be tied down to keep them from falling of the edge. Its ability to
> actually *cut* anything, even with a new blade, also leaves a lot to be
> desired. "Well you should get a new one" she said.
>
> Having recently received a couple of HD gift cards as a result of some
> hand tool purchases, I merrily invaded the Borg hive and picked up a
> Bosch 1587AVSP. Oh baby. The difference between this thing and my old
> POS is like the difference between driving a Cadillac and a ..... roller
> skate. And, as luck would have it, it was packaged with a couple of
> "free" clamps. As long as I was there, and since the jigsaw was almost
> free (due to the gift cards) I was pretty easily able to talk myself
> into a PC 333 ROS to complement/upgrade the B&D 1/4 sheet finish sander
> I've been using for years. I haven't taken it out of the box yet, but it
> won't be long.
> Well, yesterday the plans and video for the love seat arrived in the
> mail. After watching the video a bit more carefully, and looking at the
> plans, I realized the jigsaw wasn't going to cut it (pun intended). "Hey
> honey, I'm not going to be able to do this with a jigsaw. I need a
> bandsaw......and a planer". "Okay, get what you need". Gawd, you gotta
> love her.
>
> About 15 minutes later, my new bandsaw was ordered. As I speak, a
> Grizzly G0555 complete with riser kit and movable base is being picked,
> packed, and readied for delivery to sunny Tampa Florida. I haven't quite
> picked a planer yet, but I'm leaning heavily toward the Ryobi. The
> consensus in the group seems to be that it is a pretty good machine for
> the money, and I've spent a sh*t load of money lately on tools, so this
> might be a good opportunity to save a few bucks. After all, I still have
> to buy some good bandsaw blades, Duginske's book, and even though SWMBO
> and I decided to forego exchanging Xmas gifts in favor of recarpeting
> the house, I'm feeling the need to go to the jewelry store to show my
> appreciation.
>
> GLOAT MODE OFF
>
> QUESTION MODE ON
>
> I need some advice on bandsaw blades. By all accounts, it seems
> Timberwolf blades are the way to go, but the selection seems a bit
> overwhelming. Since this love seat is going to get painted, I plan to
> make it out of PT pine instead of the Cypress Norm calls for. My
> immediate need then is for a blade to cut fairly large radius curves in
> 1 to 1.5 inch PT. Future projects undoubtably will call for smaller
> radius curves in harder wood and some resawing. I'm looking to buy two
> or three blades, and I'd like some suggestions on blade width/tooth
> count combinations to get me started.
>
> On a somewhat unrelated note, I've got a Makita 3612BR router that's
> about ten years old. Until recently, it sat unused in the garage for
> about 6-7 years. When I put any kind of significant load on it, I can
> see sparks through the vents in the top of the motor housing. With no or
> very little load, I don't see them. I checked the brushes and they have
> a good 3/8" left on them before they wear down to the little replacement
> indicators. Are the sparks normal? Am I trying to remove too much
> material too fast? My most recent experience was cutting a groove 3/8"
> deep (in one pass) with a new 1/2" straight bit in PT pine.
>
> QUESTION MODE OFF
>
> If you made it this far, thanks for your kind attention.
>
> --
> Woody
>
>
> Check out my Web Page at:
>
> http://community-1.webtv.net/WoodworkerJoe/WoodworkerJoesInfo
>
> Where you will find:
>
> ******** How My Shop Works ******** 5-21-03
>
> * * * Build a $20 DC Separator Can Lid. 1-14-03
> * * * DC Relay Box Building Plans. 1-14-03
> * * * The Bad Air Your Breath Everyday.1-14-03
> * * * What is a Real Woodworker? 2-8-03
> * * * Murphy's Woodworking Definitions. 2-8-03
> * * * Murphy's Woodworking Laws. 4-6-03
> * * * What is the true meaning of life? 1-14-03
> * * * Woodworker Shop Signs. 2-8-03
>

rR

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 5:17 AM

Bay Area Dave <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Who ever said that woodworking was about saving money??
>
> dave

Obviously not you Homer!

EE

Ehvee8or

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 7:21 AM

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 06:16:40 GMT, Kevin Craig <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>, Ehvee8or
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Yeah, that riser kit is critical to sawing flat curved parts, eh? ;-)

Well, I figure it'll save me time down the road when I won't have to
pull a blade out and try to figure out if it's 93" or 105". ;->
>
>The bandsaw was a gloat. The add-ons amount to a drive-by neener. <G>
>
>Kevin

pP

[email protected] (Phil Crow)

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

07/12/2003 5:14 AM

The Guy <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Sounds like your SWMBO is a keeper! If you have a minute, would you
> mind asking her if I can get a plasma cutter? I figure that it is OK as
> long as it is SWMBO approved! :)
>
> Tim
>

Yeah, I can hear it now. "But honey, his wife said it would be okay!"

Step to the front of the line for your Thai haircut, sir.

-Phil Crow

Sd

Silvan

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 12:00 PM

Ehvee8or wrote:

> lot less, but where's the fun in that? Besides, she says the tools are
> an investment and their cost has to be amortized over everything I
> make for many years to come. Who am I to argue?

Oddly, I think mine feels that way too. She never whines when I want to buy
a new tool. Just when I try to get too many of them at once.

Maybe it's worth something to her that I have a hobby that keeps me on the
property every chance I get, even if I'm not in the house, instead of down
at the bar trying to get into other women's pants. :)

(Silly girl. I'm not going anywhere. I have a wife who never wants me to
think about touching the laundry, who likes to bake cookies, whose greatest
dream in life was to find herself a gentle man and raise some babies. I'd
be nuts to screw this up. :)

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/

TG

The Guy

in reply to Ehvee8or on 05/12/2003 5:18 PM

06/12/2003 5:11 AM

Sounds like your SWMBO is a keeper! If you have a minute, would you
mind asking her if I can get a plasma cutter? I figure that it is OK as
long as it is SWMBO approved! :)

Tim

Ehvee8or wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I've got some gloating to do, then I have a couple of questions.
>
> GLOAT MODE ON
>
> A couple of weeks ago, SWMBO and I were laying in bed one weekend
> morning, drinking our coffee and watching Norm build an Adirondack
> love seat. I suggested that it would make a nice replacement to the
> delapidated bench sitting in front of the house that we got from the
> Borg a few years ago. She agreed. As I watched the construction
> proceed, I soon realized my current tool inventory was not up to the
> task. There's a lot of curved pieces in this project, and I don't have
> a bandsaw.
>
> "I might be able to build it if I had a decent jigsaw, but the one I
> have is a POS" I murmured between sips of coffee. It's a 20+ year old
> teeny tiny Craftsman with a shoe that won't stay at a right angle to
> the blade, and vibrates so badly that any tools laying on the
> workbench have to be tied down to keep them from falling of the edge.
> Its ability to actually *cut* anything, even with a new blade, also
> leaves a lot to be desired. "Well you should get a new one" she said.
>
> Having recently received a couple of HD gift cards as a result of some
> hand tool purchases, I merrily invaded the Borg hive and picked up a
> Bosch 1587AVSP. Oh baby. The difference between this thing and my old
> POS is like the difference between driving a Cadillac and a .....
> roller skate. And, as luck would have it, it was packaged with a
> couple of "free" clamps. As long as I was there, and since the jigsaw
> was almost free (due to the gift cards) I was pretty easily able to
> talk myself into a PC 333 ROS to complement/upgrade the B&D 1/4 sheet
> finish sander I've been using for years. I haven't taken it out of the
> box yet, but it won't be long.
>
> Well, yesterday the plans and video for the love seat arrived in the
> mail. After watching the video a bit more carefully, and looking at
> the plans, I realized the jigsaw wasn't going to cut it (pun
> intended). "Hey honey, I'm not going to be able to do this with a
> jigsaw. I need a bandsaw......and a planer". "Okay, get what you
> need". Gawd, you gotta love her.
>
> About 15 minutes later, my new bandsaw was ordered. As I speak, a
> Grizzly G0555 complete with riser kit and movable base is being
> picked, packed, and readied for delivery to sunny Tampa Florida. I
> haven't quite picked a planer yet, but I'm leaning heavily toward the
> Ryobi. The consensus in the group seems to be that it is a pretty good
> machine for the money, and I've spent a sh*t load of money lately on
> tools, so this might be a good opportunity to save a few bucks. After
> all, I still have to buy some good bandsaw blades, Duginske's book,
> and even though SWMBO and I decided to forego exchanging Xmas gifts in
> favor of recarpeting the house, I'm feeling the need to go to the
> jewelry store to show my appreciation.
>
> GLOAT MODE OFF
>
> QUESTION MODE ON
>
> I need some advice on bandsaw blades. By all accounts, it seems
> Timberwolf blades are the way to go, but the selection seems a bit
> overwhelming. Since this love seat is going to get painted, I plan to
> make it out of PT pine instead of the Cypress Norm calls for. My
> immediate need then is for a blade to cut fairly large radius curves
> in 1 to 1.5 inch PT. Future projects undoubtably will call for smaller
> radius curves in harder wood and some resawing. I'm looking to buy two
> or three blades, and I'd like some suggestions on blade width/tooth
> count combinations to get me started.
>
> On a somewhat unrelated note, I've got a Makita 3612BR router that's
> about ten years old. Until recently, it sat unused in the garage for
> about 6-7 years. When I put any kind of significant load on it, I can
> see sparks through the vents in the top of the motor housing. With no
> or very little load, I don't see them. I checked the brushes and they
> have a good 3/8" left on them before they wear down to the little
> replacement indicators. Are the sparks normal? Am I trying to remove
> too much material too fast? My most recent experience was cutting a
> groove 3/8" deep (in one pass) with a new 1/2" straight bit in PT
> pine.
>
> QUESTION MODE OFF
>
> If you made it this far, thanks for your kind attention.
>
>
>
>


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