I used some lower grade cherry for a face frame that I was going to paint.
Since I was going to paint it, I figured that the blemishes would not be a
problem. I primed it with Kilz latex then painted it white. There were no
knots in the wood just the grain and dark spots like cherry has. After a
week or two, yellowish bleed through starting showing somewhat matching the
cherry grain pattern underneath. I then applied the premium grade kilz, not
sure of the name it's the one with everything checked off on the can saying
it can cover anything with no problems. Anyway it's bleeding through again.
Someone recommended first using shellac on the cherry prior to painting to
seal it. My two questions are:
What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted and are
bleeding through?
Also how can I best seal another cherry face frame that I want to paint?
Thanks In advance,
CurtisJon
Thu, Feb 24, 2005, 1:58am (EST+5) [email protected] (CurtisJon) asks:
<snip> What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted and
are bleeding through? <snip>
Paint 'em yellowish.
JOAT
Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong.
- David Fasold
Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > CurtisJon wrote:
> > snip
> > > What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted
> >
> > I was gonna suggest praying for fotgivness, but I suspect that
> > seppuku is all that will suffice.
> >
> > Dave in Fairfax
>
> Seppuku with a belt sander.
Random orbital. Same effect, takes longer.
--
FF
Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Robatoy wrote:
> > > In article <[email protected]>,
> > > Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > CurtisJon wrote:
> > > > snip
> > > > > What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted
> > > >
> > > > I was gonna suggest praying for fotgivness, but I suspect that
> > > > seppuku is all that will suffice.
> > > >
> > > > Dave in Fairfax
> > >
> > > Seppuku with a belt sander.
> >
> > Random orbital. Same effect, takes longer.
>
> Which grit?
A buffing pad.
--
FF
CurtisJon wrote:
snip
> What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted
I was gonna suggest praying for fotgivness, but I suspect that
seppuku is all that will suffice.
Dave in Fairfax
--
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reply-to doesn't work
use:
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http://www.capwoodturners.org/
PATINA
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CurtisJon wrote:
> What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted and are
> bleeding through?
I'd sand and/or scrape them down and reseal as below. If you can get
everything smooth, shellac based sealers will go over almost anything.
>
> Also how can I best seal another cherry face frame that I want to paint?
I prefer Zinsser Seal Coat dewaxed shellac, or shellac based BIN. Seal
Coat is clear, BIN is tinted white. Check a good local paint store for
it. DO NOT use standard, canned shellac, as it contains wax which may
mess with the paint adhesion.
Seal Coat is sometimes found in Home Centers, but not always. BIN comes
in shellac base and water base, DO NOT get the water based product.
I've never been a fan of any Kilz product. Either shellac product sands
very nicely after it's dry, so don't worry about small defects.
> Thanks In advance,
Sure!
Rules like "never stain or paint Widgetwood" can result in ugly wood
being used where it shouldn't be. ;^)
Nice wood = "You made that? Wow!"
Ugly wood, left visible just because it's Widgetwood = "You made that?
Oh..."
Have fun,
Barry
"CurtisJon" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I used some lower grade cherry for a face frame that I was going to
> paint. Since I was going to paint it, I figured that the blemishes
> would not be a problem.
It's the woodworking gods cursing you. The cherry will need to be removed,
and replaced with poplar.
Contact JT regarding the required pennance offering.
;-)
Patriarch
CurtisJon wrote:
> I used some lower grade cherry for a face frame that I was going to paint.
> Since I was going to paint it, I figured that the blemishes would not be a
> problem. I primed it with Kilz latex then painted it white. There were no
> knots in the wood just the grain and dark spots like cherry has. After a
> week or two, yellowish bleed through starting showing somewhat matching the
> cherry grain pattern underneath. I then applied the premium grade kilz, not
> sure of the name it's the one with everything checked off on the can saying
> it can cover anything with no problems. Anyway it's bleeding through again.
>
> Someone recommended first using shellac on the cherry prior to painting to
> seal it. My two questions are:
>
> What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted and are
> bleeding through?
>
> Also how can I best seal another cherry face frame that I want to paint?
>
> Thanks In advance,
>
> CurtisJon
>
>
For the already painted ones, there is a product that I've used on
ceilings and walls that hides bleed through stains (water, toilet water
etc). It is silver/gray in colour, and then another coat of white goes
on top. Unfortunately I don't have any, so I don't know the name, but
if you ask at a BORG, they will tell you. That might be worth a try.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > CurtisJon wrote:
> > > snip
> > > > What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted
> > >
> > > I was gonna suggest praying for fotgivness, but I suspect that
> > > seppuku is all that will suffice.
> > >
> > > Dave in Fairfax
> >
> > Seppuku with a belt sander.
>
> Random orbital. Same effect, takes longer.
Which grit?
In article <[email protected]>,
Dave in Fairfax <[email protected]> wrote:
> CurtisJon wrote:
> snip
> > What can I do about the cherry face frames I already painted
>
> I was gonna suggest praying for fotgivness, but I suspect that
> seppuku is all that will suffice.
>
> Dave in Fairfax
Seppuku with a belt sander.
You're being punished for painting Cherry. Quite a sin in the wood working
world.
As for painting it, well I haven't a clue....never thought about doing such
a blasphemous thing to cherry.
cc
"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "CurtisJon" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I used some lower grade cherry for a face frame that I was going to
>> paint. Since I was going to paint it, I figured that the blemishes
>> would not be a problem.
>
> It's the woodworking gods cursing you. The cherry will need to be
> removed,
> and replaced with poplar.
>
> Contact JT regarding the required pennance offering.
>
> ;-)
>
> Patriarch