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"TinWoodsmn"

12/04/2006 6:15 PM

TS Lubrication

Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
clean out the old sawdust?

Thanks.

Tin Woodsmn


This topic has 18 replies

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"hylourgos"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

14/04/2006 7:53 AM


TinWoodsmn wrote:
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
> clean out the old sawdust?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tin Woodsmn

Fish tape lube w/ graphite

contains wax, is extra slippery, does not attract dust, long lasting,
inexpensive and abundant

Bm

"Bugs"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

17/04/2006 10:15 AM

I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great. I

don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread like a

virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but its
really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out there
know what the composition of this stuff is?

Molybdenum Disulfide. Used to lubricate gun mechanisms without gumming
them up. Good stuff, and expensive.
Bugs

Po

"Pounds on Wood"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 9:25 AM


"TinWoodsmn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
> clean out the old sawdust?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
>

I just use a block of paraffin wax (canning wax) and rub along the lead
screws. It does the job and does not show much love for sawdust. Boeshield
seems too light bodied for lubricating a lead screw. It would be good to
prevent rust and might be good combined with wax.
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Markem

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

12/04/2006 8:53 PM

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:15:54 -0700, "TinWoodsmn" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
>setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
>clean out the old sawdust?

TFE based lubes, oils and sawdust do mix very well to a lovely paste.
Vacum, then don dust mask, and blast away with compressed air (2 20
inch fans blowing out the garage doors).

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 5:50 PM

TinWoodsmn wrote:
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? A

I really like "White Lightning", a wax based chain lube available in
bicycle shops. WL dries to a non-sticky waxy film that flakes off as
you use it.

Great stuff!

Barry

pR

in reply to B A R R Y on 13/04/2006 5:50 PM

17/04/2006 1:41 PM

Johnson's paste wax in the yellow can is cheap and easy to apply with a
small paintbrush. Sawdust is not attracted to it as to oil

Ss

Sailaway

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 10:01 PM

BobS Wrote:
>A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
>
>Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
>Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
>Couple of drops of mineral spirits
>Baby jar
>SNIP

I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great. I
don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread like a
virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but its
really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out there
know what the composition of this stuff is?

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 4:23 AM


"TinWoodsmn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
> clean out the old sawdust?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
>

I blow out and then blast with Brake Cleaner from an aerosol can. Follow
that with BoeShield T9.

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

14/04/2006 9:41 AM

Joe Gorman wrote:
> Sailaway wrote:
>
>> BobS Wrote:
>> >A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
>> >
>> >Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
>> >Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
>> >Couple of drops of mineral spirits
>> >Baby jar
>> >SNIP
>>
>> I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
>> can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great.
>> I don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread
>> like a virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but
>> its really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out
>> there know what the composition of this stuff is?
>
> Looks like it's a trade secret
> http://www.timken.com/industries/industrial/pdf/Bel%20Ray%20MolyLube%208626%20EP1%2010447.pdf

Trade secret? Molybdenum disulfide (a variation on lithium grease?),
and silica.

<URL:http://www.lub-o-seal.com/products/msds/MSDS-MOLY.pdf>

er
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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

12/04/2006 9:39 PM


"TinWoodsmn" wrote in message
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
> clean out the old sawdust?

Boeshield T9 works real well for me, any lubricant that doesn't dry or
contains silicone; air compressor.

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Bn

"BobS"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 5:22 PM

A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:

Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
Couple of drops of mineral spirits
Baby jar

Fill baby jar about 3/4 full of paste wax, add all the powdered graphite -
it's probably about a 1/2 teaspoon in the tube. Add a few drops of mineral
spirits and start mixing (screwdriver works well) until the wax and graphite
are thoroughly blended and you have a completely black mix. Add only a drop
or two of mineral spirits at a time as needed so you can mix the wax and
graphite. If you get to much, don't worry, just set the jar aside with the
top off for a few hours and the mineral spirits will evaporate off. You
want the consistency of soft butter for applying it.

Clean the gears - others gave a lot of good ideas and then use a small,
stiff brush like an acid brush, to apply the wax combo. Sawdust does not
stick to the combination and although wax itself acts as a lubricant, in
this case it's the carrier for the graphite. The small jar will last a
long, long time. If it dries to much - add a drop of mineral spirits and
stir in.

Bob S.


"TinWoodsmn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
> clean out the old sawdust?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
>

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

14/04/2006 12:36 PM

Joe Gorman wrote:
> Enoch Root wrote:
>
>> Joe Gorman wrote:
>>
>>> Sailaway wrote:
>>>
>>>> BobS Wrote:
>>>> >A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
>>>> >
>>>> >Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
>>>> >Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
>>>> >Couple of drops of mineral spirits
>>>> >Baby jar
>>>> >SNIP
>>>>
>>>> I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
>>>> can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great.
>>>> I don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread
>>>> like a virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but
>>>> its really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out
>>>> there know what the composition of this stuff is?
>>>
>>> Looks like it's a trade secret
>>> http://www.timken.com/industries/industrial/pdf/Bel%20Ray%20MolyLube%208626%20EP1%2010447.pdf
>>>
>>
>>
>> Trade secret? Molybdenum disulfide (a variation on lithium grease?),
>> and silica.
>>
>> <URL:http://www.lub-o-seal.com/products/msds/MSDS-MOLY.pdf>
>>
>> er
>
> I was referring to Section 2, which lists the ingredients.
> Joe

Sorry, I looked up some other product. It's a powder, but it's not
Bel-Ray. I had no idea you could hide your components from an MSDS
page. All it says is metallic oxides, but there are six (?IIRC) other
secret spices even if one is Molybdenum disulfide.

er
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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 1:12 PM

"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message

> I just use a block of paraffin wax (canning wax) and rub along the lead
> screws. It does the job and does not show much love for sawdust.
Boeshield
> seems too light bodied for lubricating a lead screw. It would be good to
> prevent rust and might be good combined with wax.

BoeShield T9 _is_ combined with wax ... that's one of the reasons it works
well for this application.

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Ss

Sailaway

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

17/04/2006 10:15 AM

Joe Gorman wrote:

>> Enoch Root wrote:
>>
>
>>>> Joe Gorman wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>>>>> Sailaway wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> BobS Wrote:
>>>>>>>> >A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
>>>>>>>> >Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing
locks.
>>>>>>>> >Couple of drops of mineral spirits
>>>>>>>> >Baby jar
>>>>>>>> >SNIP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a
gallon
>>>>>>>> can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work
great.
>>>>>>>> I don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread
>>>>>>>> like a virus and gets on everything while you're working with
it, but
>>>>>>>> its really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out
>>>>>>>> there know what the composition of this stuff is?
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like it's a trade secret
>>>>>>
http://www.timken.com/industries/industrial/pdf/Bel%20Ray%20MolyLube%208626%20EP1%2010447.pdf
>>>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Trade secret? Molybdenum disulfide (a variation on lithium grease?),
>>>> and silica.
>>>>
>>>> <URL:http://www.lub-o-seal.com/products/msds/MSDS-MOLY.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> er
>
>>
>> I was referring to Section 2, which lists the ingredients.
>> Joe


>Sorry, I looked up some other product. It's a powder, but it's not
>Bel-Ray. I had no idea you could hide your components from an MSDS
>page. All it says is metallic oxides, but there are six (?IIRC) other
>secret spices even if one is Molybdenum disulfide.
>
>er

I just looked at the can and found the part #: Molylube 16. It is a
powder, not a grease like in the above msds. The grease form may be a
variation on the one I have, and the petroleum content of the grease may
account for the off gasses and fire hazard warnings. It looks to be a
fairly old can, so maybe they aren't using the #16 designation anymore
since it isn't listed on their web site. Since I don't know what's in it
I use a respirator when I am working with it.

JG

Joe Gorman

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

14/04/2006 8:18 AM

Sailaway wrote:
> BobS Wrote:
> >A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
> >
> >Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
> >Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
> >Couple of drops of mineral spirits
> >Baby jar
> >SNIP
>
> I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
> can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great. I
> don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread like a
> virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but its
> really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out there
> know what the composition of this stuff is?
Looks like it's a trade secret
http://www.timken.com/industries/industrial/pdf/Bel%20Ray%20MolyLube%208626%20EP1%2010447.pdf
just don't breathe it or use instead of visine.
Joe

JG

Joe Gorman

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

14/04/2006 3:11 PM

Enoch Root wrote:
> Joe Gorman wrote:
>> Sailaway wrote:
>>
>>> BobS Wrote:
>>> >A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
>>> >
>>> >Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
>>> >Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
>>> >Couple of drops of mineral spirits
>>> >Baby jar
>>> >SNIP
>>>
>>> I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
>>> can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great.
>>> I don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread
>>> like a virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but
>>> its really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out
>>> there know what the composition of this stuff is?
>> Looks like it's a trade secret
>> http://www.timken.com/industries/industrial/pdf/Bel%20Ray%20MolyLube%208626%20EP1%2010447.pdf
>
> Trade secret? Molybdenum disulfide (a variation on lithium grease?),
> and silica.
>
> <URL:http://www.lub-o-seal.com/products/msds/MSDS-MOLY.pdf>
>
> er
I was referring to Section 2, which lists the ingredients.
Joe

CE

"C & E"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

13/04/2006 11:41 AM


"TinWoodsmn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anyone have a favorite lubrication for the blade height and angle
> setting gears on a cabinet saw? Anything to steer clear of? Best way to
> clean out the old sawdust?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tin Woodsmn
I suppose that you're speaking of how to clean the large, threaded rods. I
used a couple of brushes to know off the grease/ sawdust combo and then,
dipped a narrow brush in some mineral spirits to further clean off the
remaining grease, drying with a rag. To lubricate I used powdered graphite
and rand the assembly through its range of motion.

GE

"George E. Cawthon"

in reply to "TinWoodsmn" on 12/04/2006 6:15 PM

14/04/2006 8:17 PM

Sailaway wrote:
> BobS Wrote:
> >A formula I've been using for a number of years now is:
> >
> >Johnson's or any paste wax similar to it
> >Graphite powder - small tube from auto store used for lubing locks.
> >Couple of drops of mineral spirits
> >Baby jar
> >SNIP
>
> I lubed mine with a powder called Molylube from Bel-Ray. Had a gallon
> can of it so I thought I'd give it a try, and it seems to work great. I
> don't know what's in it - its a gray powder that seems to spread like a
> virus and gets on everything while you're working with it, but its
> really slippery and yet sticks well to the threads. Anyone out there
> know what the composition of this stuff is?

You had a gallon? Molylube is probably just a
brand name, but It is probably just molybdenum
disulfide.

Molybdenum disulfide is usually ground much finer
than graphite and is a way superior lubricant.
Used as a dry lubricant in lots of applications
from sliding joints to bullets. Sometimes in an
alcohol or other base that evaporates.


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