I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
is rough.
The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
> is rough.
>
> The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was
a
> good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
> buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should
figure
> on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new
blades,
> it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>
> Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
Never planed it myself, but at a Woodcraft store shop, teak is forbidden in
one of the planers because the blades are harder to change. My guess is
they have some experience with it. New blades for my planer are $30 a set
($15 per side). Marginal choice. If I had to take a lot off, I'd probably
pay. One or two light passes, I'd take the chance.
Ed
Toller wrote:
> The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
> good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
> buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
> on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
> it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
$40 isn't much of a downpayment on a planer, but it's a nice start on a
#7 plane. Look at his as an opportunity. %-)
Dave in Fairfax
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I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood. What experience
have you folks had with carbide planer blades? Is it worth it?
RB
Phisherman wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:17:59 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
>>is rough.
>>
>>The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
>>good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
>>buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
>>on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
>>it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>>
>>Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
>>
>
>
>
> Yes. It has a lot of silica in the wood and dulls blades.
Thanks, but tell me what you really think. ;-)
RB
Patrick Olguin wrote:
> RB <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> I'm thinking of pulling the pin on a phosphorous grenade and ramming
> it up my ass. That's pretty much how I feel about it. It's closer to
> working stone than wood. I would rather have my testicles pulled
> slowly from my body, than use zebrawood for anything more complicated
> than a paperweight. Zebrawood is best acquired in small pieces, such
> that you can more easily fit it into the rock tumbler. I would rather
> listen to KennyG play AC/DC's (pretty good Australian band, Jeff)
> greatest hits than plane, chisel, scrape, saw or in anyway involve
> myself with edge tools and zebrawood. If Mussonlini, Hitler and a
> customer asking me to cut a simple dado in a piece of zebrawood, were
> in the same room, and all I had were a dado plane, a gun and two
> bullets... I'd shoot the customer twice, just to be sure.
>
> Here's a nice shot of using edge tools on zebrawood:
> http://www.klownhammer.org/photos/zebramess.jpg
>
> Oh, here's what happens when you scrape it!
> http://www.klownhammer.org/photos/tearout-city.jpg
>
> Good luck,
> O'Deen
"Toller" writes:
>I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
>is rough.
>
>The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was
a
> >good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
>buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
>on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new
blades,
>it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>
>Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
Real teak is an absolute bitch to machine because it is very abrasive and
quickly destroys cutting edges.
It will cost you a lot more than $40 to get near my planer with your teak.
Your lumber yard is giving you a deal, IMHO.
If you need a planer, buy one.
If you plan on planing teak with it, buy an extra set of blades.
HTH
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
RB <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood.
^^^^^^^^^^
I'm thinking of pulling the pin on a phosphorous grenade and ramming
it up my ass. That's pretty much how I feel about it. It's closer to
working stone than wood. I would rather have my testicles pulled
slowly from my body, than use zebrawood for anything more complicated
than a paperweight. Zebrawood is best acquired in small pieces, such
that you can more easily fit it into the rock tumbler. I would rather
listen to KennyG play AC/DC's (pretty good Australian band, Jeff)
greatest hits than plane, chisel, scrape, saw or in anyway involve
myself with edge tools and zebrawood. If Mussonlini, Hitler and a
customer asking me to cut a simple dado in a piece of zebrawood, were
in the same room, and all I had were a dado plane, a gun and two
bullets... I'd shoot the customer twice, just to be sure.
Here's a nice shot of using edge tools on zebrawood:
http://www.klownhammer.org/photos/zebramess.jpg
Oh, here's what happens when you scrape it!
http://www.klownhammer.org/photos/tearout-city.jpg
Good luck,
O'Deen
"Toller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
> is rough.
>
> The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
> good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
> buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
> on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
> it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>
> Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
Yes is it indeed that bad. I have installed teak flooring (several
thousand sq feet) with all trims, etc. It is hard, brittle, and some
pieces with no rhyme ir reason will tear out like nobody's business.
Due to the oiliness, it also has a nasty effect on thickness sanders
(especially if you are using a non steraed belt, or one that is worn)
as well. The resultant sawdust/planings from sanding and/or planing
always make me cough a lot, even when I clean up the shop after
working with this wood.
I would take it to the lumber yard, let them plane it, and let them
replace anything they screw up. Let them clean up their machines.
Let them clean up their shavings and dust. Don't tear up a new
planer. This wood is hard enought hat if you hit a hard pocket on the
wood with a home shop planer, you will easily put nicks in the thinner
blades found on these machines.
Robert
New blades probably would run you LESS than the $40 they want to
charge you for the service. Depending on the price of replacement
blades, you do the math
John
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:17:59 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
>is rough.
>
>The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
>good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
>buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
>on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
>it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>
>Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
>
On 30 Jan 2004 10:00:15 -0800, [email protected] (Patrick Olguin)
wrote:
>RB <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood.
> ^^^^^^^^^^
>I'm thinking of pulling the pin on a phosphorous grenade and ramming
>it up my ass. That's pretty much how I feel about it. It's closer to
>working stone than wood. I would rather have my testicles pulled
>slowly from my body, than use zebrawood for anything more complicated
>than a paperweight. Zebrawood is best acquired in small pieces, such
>that you can more easily fit it into the rock tumbler. I would rather
>listen to KennyG play AC/DC's (pretty good Australian band, Jeff)
>greatest hits than plane, chisel, scrape, saw or in anyway involve
>myself with edge tools and zebrawood. If Mussonlini, Hitler and a
>customer asking me to cut a simple dado in a piece of zebrawood, were
>in the same room, and all I had were a dado plane, a gun and two
>bullets... I'd shoot the customer twice, just to be sure.
That stuff is Gottdamned pallet wood and should only be used as an
accent. The bigger pieces make me wanna get out the belt sander (that
I haven't used for anything but putting a rough edge on a chisel in
donkey's year).
I've had no luck planing the shit and have had the most luck by using
an old floor finisher's technique of cutting out strips of fresh
window glass and running a legitimate (Rockwell 64 or better) steel
slick across the edges like you would for a scraper edge. Same angle
and all. (ya wouldn't think that the glass edge would take a curl,
but it does).
The old floor guys use this for corners and doing stair scrape outs.
It works good but you need to keep cutting fresh pieces.
(ps. the old guy that I know used a piece of round stock from a
automobile motor to do this - it seemed to be plenty hard and made the
glass curl out real nice).
(he gave his to me when he quit)
(i ain't giving it up)
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker (ret)
Real Email is: tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1
I've planed and otherwise cut teak. Teak has a high silica content,
it's rough on HSS tooling. I don't think you'll need new blades, but
you might need to get them sharpened when you're through.
You'll need the planer anyway in the future for other projects.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:17:59 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
>is rough.
>
>The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
>good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
>buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
>on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
>it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>
>Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
>
"RB" writes:
> I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood. What experience
> have you folks had with carbide planer blades? Is it worth it?
I haven't used carbide planer blades because I couldn't justify the
investment.
My guess is that unless you have a couple of thousand board feet of teak to
plane, it won't be worth it.
Better off buying 2-3 sets of HSS blades and get real friendly with your
local sharpening service.
Have no comment on zebrawood.
HTH
--
Lew
S/A: Challenge, The Bullet Proof Boat, (Under Construction in the Southland)
Visit: <http://home.earthlink.net/~lewhodgett> for Pictures
[email protected] (Patrick Olguin) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> RB <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood.
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> I'm thinking of pulling the pin on a phosphorous grenade and ramming
> it up my ass. That's pretty much how I feel about it. It's closer to
> working stone than wood. I would rather have my testicles pulled
> slowly from my body, than use zebrawood for anything more complicated
> than a paperweight. Zebrawood is best acquired in small pieces, such
> that you can more easily fit it into the rock tumbler. I would rather
> listen to KennyG play AC/DC's (pretty good Australian band, Jeff)
> greatest hits than plane, chisel, scrape, saw or in anyway involve
> myself with edge tools and zebrawood. If Mussonlini, Hitler and a
> customer asking me to cut a simple dado in a piece of zebrawood, were
> in the same room, and all I had were a dado plane, a gun and two
> bullets... I'd shoot the customer twice, just to be sure.
>
> Here's a nice shot of using edge tools on zebrawood:
> http://www.klownhammer.org/photos/zebramess.jpg
>
> Oh, here's what happens when you scrape it!
> http://www.klownhammer.org/photos/tearout-city.jpg
>
> Good luck,
> O'Deen
>
Damn, I'm glad you're back!
Patriarch
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> RB <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood.
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> I'm thinking of pulling the pin on a phosphorous grenade and ramming
> it up my ass. That's pretty much how I feel about it. It's closer to
> working stone than wood. I would rather have my testicles pulled
> slowly from my body, than use zebrawood for anything more complicated
> than a paperweight. Zebrawood is best acquired in small pieces, such
> that you can more easily fit it into the rock tumbler. I would rather
> listen to KennyG play AC/DC's (pretty good Australian band, Jeff)
> greatest hits than plane, chisel, scrape, saw or in anyway involve
> myself with edge tools and zebrawood. If Mussonlini, Hitler and a
> customer asking me to cut a simple dado in a piece of zebrawood, were
> in the same room, and all I had were a dado plane, a gun and two
> bullets... I'd shoot the customer twice, just to be sure.
>
No, really Paddy, don't hold back, tell us how you *really* feel. ;-)
So, Paddy - are you saying this stuff would be good for 'belaying pins' and
the line sheaves in rigging blocks?
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{Isn't that an 'extreme cure' for bleeding hemorrhoids? Sorry - that's what
it FEELS like before you have them taken care of !!}
"Patrick Olguin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RB <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I'm working up to planing both teak and zebra wood.
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> I'm thinking of pulling the pin on a phosphorous grenade and ramming
> it up my ass.
SNIP
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:17:59 GMT, "Toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need some teak, don't have a planer, and the any teak I can find locally
>is rough.
>
>The lumberyard will plane the 7 boards I want for $40. I figured that was a
>good downpayment on a planer, so I posted a message about which planer to
>buy. One reply said that teak was very hard on planers and I should figure
>on a new set of blades afterwards. If I am going to have to buy new blades,
>it would make sense just to pay the $40 and get the teak finished.
>
>Is teak really that bad? Thanks.
>
Yes. It has a lot of silica in the wood and dulls blades.