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"bob"

23/05/2004 7:15 PM

5/4 lumber dilemma

I've got 450BF of white mahogany, all 5/4. It was the only thickness they
had if I wanted the wood....My current project calls for 3/4 lumber. It is
a shame to mill 1/2" off this wood and pitch it in the compost pile (not to
mention inflating my cost by 25% per BF due to the waste). I was thinking
of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4
respectively.

Question: What should I do with a big pile of 1/4" white mahogany, 8 feet
long and 5 to 11 inches wide? Can I glue it up into panels (how flat would
they be?). My project is a kitchen hutch, so i do need some back panels
and 1/4" would work well.

What do you guys do with 5/4 in a situation like this?

Thanks. Bob


This topic has 11 replies

BB

BRuce

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 9:44 AM

jewelry boxes, drawer dividers, there is always uses for thin stock or
laminate it for other uses.

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

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BRuce

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 8:44 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
patriarch <<patriarch>[email protected]> says...
> Or you could adjust you plans and use thicker stock. Many published plans
> seem to be set for 3/4 out of a sense of habit, almost.
>
And some projects that call for it look "clunky" and would
benefit from a little thinner wood.

While I don't think you can get 3/4 and 1/4 finished out of 5/4,
you could probably get 5/8 and 1/4.

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km

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 7:15 PM

"bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I've got 450BF of white mahogany, all 5/4. It was the only thickness they
> had if I wanted the wood....My current project calls for 3/4 lumber. It is
> a shame to mill 1/2" off this wood and pitch it in the compost pile (not to
> mention inflating my cost by 25% per BF due to the waste). I was thinking
> of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4
> respectively.
>
> Question: What should I do with a big pile of 1/4" white mahogany, 8 feet
> long and 5 to 11 inches wide? Can I glue it up into panels (how flat would
> they be?). My project is a kitchen hutch, so i do need some back panels
> and 1/4" would work well.
>
> What do you guys do with 5/4 in a situation like this?
>
> Thanks. Bob

I would slice 1/16" veneers out of it. You could probably get as much
for the veneers as the cost of the 5/4. Keep the veneers in a flitch ,
lay them flat and weight them down to prevent cupping.
mike

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 2:51 AM



"bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> ($1.96BF in case you were wondering).
>

At that price, I'd just plane away. Anything less than $3 retail is cheap
these days.

bb

"bob"

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

23/05/2004 9:05 PM

It is just what it sounds like. It is a variety of mahogany that has no
color - it is white. Same tight, knot free grain as genuine mahogany, but
slightly harder and denser. You can stain it just about any color you want
and not have to deal with the reddish tinge of genuine mahogany. And it's
cheaper than genuine - don't have to pay for the red color, I guess!

($1.96BF in case you were wondering).


Hmm. I hadn't thought about eBay. There probably is someone out there that
would overpay for my wood AND pay to ship it across the country.



"Larry Jaques" <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:15:30 -0500, "bob"
> <[email protected]> brought forth from the murky
> depths:
>
> >I've got 450BF of white mahogany, all 5/4. It was the only thickness
they
> >had if I wanted the wood....My current project calls for 3/4 lumber. It
is
> >a shame to mill 1/2" off this wood and pitch it in the compost pile (not
to
> >mention inflating my cost by 25% per BF due to the waste). I was
thinking
> >of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4
> >respectively.
>
> There ya go. Then sell the 1/4" on *b*y for the price you originally
> paid for the 5/4.
>
> BTW, WTF is "white mahogany"?!?
>
>
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>

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"xrongor"

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 12:59 AM

if you wanted you could simply use the 5/4 and adjust other dimensions
accordingly as required. its just a hutch. you'll have a beefy hutch.

anyway, something to consider that doesnt require much work.

randy

"bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've got 450BF of white mahogany, all 5/4. It was the only thickness they
> had if I wanted the wood....My current project calls for 3/4 lumber. It
is
> a shame to mill 1/2" off this wood and pitch it in the compost pile (not
to
> mention inflating my cost by 25% per BF due to the waste). I was thinking
> of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4
> respectively.
>
> Question: What should I do with a big pile of 1/4" white mahogany, 8 feet
> long and 5 to 11 inches wide? Can I glue it up into panels (how flat
would
> they be?). My project is a kitchen hutch, so i do need some back panels
> and 1/4" would work well.
>
> What do you guys do with 5/4 in a situation like this?
>
> Thanks. Bob
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 1:27 AM



--

"bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> I was thinking
> of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4
> respectively.

Well, 7/8 plus 3/8 equals 10/8 or 5/4. Take out the saw kerf and there is
not much left for jointing and planing. If the wood is already finished,
you may have a shot at it.


>
> Question: What should I do with a big pile of 1/4" white mahogany, 8 feet
> long and 5 to 11 inches wide?


How about popsicle sticks, tongue depressors, toothpicks, craft wood or
veneer?

> Can I glue it up into panels (how flat would
> they be?). My project is a kitchen hutch, so i do need some back panels
> and 1/4" would work well.

Well, there you go. You can use it for the bottom of trays also. Dividors
in drawers or small boxes.


>
> What do you guys do with 5/4 in a situation like this?

I make tounge depressers.
Ed


pp

patriarch <[email protected]>

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 5:09 AM

"bob" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I've got 450BF of white mahogany, all 5/4. It was the only thickness
> they had if I wanted the wood....My current project calls for 3/4
> lumber. It is a shame to mill 1/2" off this wood and pitch it in the
> compost pile (not to mention inflating my cost by 25% per BF due to
> the waste). I was thinking of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then
> finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4 respectively.
>
> Question: What should I do with a big pile of 1/4" white mahogany, 8
> feet long and 5 to 11 inches wide? Can I glue it up into panels (how
> flat would they be?). My project is a kitchen hutch, so i do need
> some back panels and 1/4" would work well.
>
> What do you guys do with 5/4 in a situation like this?
>
> Thanks. Bob
>
>

First off, look at your wood pile as a sunk cost. You will have spent the
same cash, no matter where the pieces go that don't end up being a hutch.

You could veneer the thin resawn bits onto a good substrate, and use it to
make the insides of cabinets, or for panels in frame and panel
construction. Or drawer bottoms, or something. But you will be addingto
the labor component of your project. And as long as that's a concious
decision, hey, go ahead.

You're going to lose some thickness in the resawing, face jointing, and
thicknessing anyway.

Or you could adjust you plans and use thicker stock. Many published plans
seem to be set for 3/4 out of a sense of habit, almost.

Patriarch,
who believes there are far more important things to be orthodox about...;-)

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

24/05/2004 12:00 PM

> Or you could adjust you plans and use thicker stock. Many published plans
> > seem to be set for 3/4 out of a sense of habit, almost.
> >
> And some projects that call for it look "clunky" and would
> benefit from a little thinner wood.
>

I agree. As I design pieces, I avoind anything that looks like 3/4" I
prefer if have a mix < 3/4" and > 3/4" components for visual interest. I
just look at 3/4" measurements in some designs, and they are usuallt there
because of stock availability, and not because they look proportioned.

Where thickness doesn't show, like a table apron. I start with whatever
stock I have and plane until I have a smooth surface of the same thickness
on all the matching parts. This can be as mucha s 7/8" when starting with
4/4 stock or greater than an inch or 5/4.

I like to think that some day someone will flip over a table or nightstand
made by me and say "shee-it, that thing is build to see the extinction of
the cockroach"

-Steve

I figure

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

23/05/2004 8:43 PM

On Sun, 23 May 2004 21:05:53 -0500, "bob"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky
depths:

>It is just what it sounds like. It is a variety of mahogany that has no
>color - it is white. Same tight, knot free grain as genuine mahogany, but
>slightly harder and denser. You can stain it just about any color you want
>and not have to deal with the reddish tinge of genuine mahogany. And it's

You misspelled "the beauty of genuine mahogany." there, bob.
Do you add insult to injury and poly it, too? <sigh>


>cheaper than genuine - don't have to pay for the red color, I guess!
>
>($1.96BF in case you were wondering).

Not a bad price for plain-Jane ewecallapeetus, but it AIN'T mahogany.
http://www.honeybee.com.au/Library/pollen/acmenioides.html
http://www.righteouswoods.net/prima_vera.html
I much prefer either genuine (or Aussie Swan River mahogany, jarrah.)


>Hmm. I hadn't thought about eBay. There probably is someone out there that
>would overpay for my wood AND pay to ship it across the country.

You betcha. And since nobody has ever heard of it, they'll bite hard.
http://www.righteouswoods.net/prima_vera.html gets $9.20b/f for 8/4
Better stack and sticker it after cutting, just in case.


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LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "bob" on 23/05/2004 7:15 PM

23/05/2004 6:00 PM

On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:15:30 -0500, "bob"
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky
depths:

>I've got 450BF of white mahogany, all 5/4. It was the only thickness they
>had if I wanted the wood....My current project calls for 3/4 lumber. It is
>a shame to mill 1/2" off this wood and pitch it in the compost pile (not to
>mention inflating my cost by 25% per BF due to the waste). I was thinking
>of resawing into 7/8 and 3/8, then finishing down to 3/4 and 1/4
>respectively.

There ya go. Then sell the 1/4" on *b*y for the price you originally
paid for the 5/4.

BTW, WTF is "white mahogany"?!?


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