Table Saw Purchase Info

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> Oakman, You obviously have not tried the link posted in the original
> message that you replied to. The person posting this is not looking
> for a TS.
>
> I'm planning on helping this guy, I'm turning a fence post right now
> and he might know where to put it.
>
> DM

DM, why don't you turn a nice pointy tip on the end of that post, we
might be able to come up with a kick-back experiment with the OP
standing behind the saw to protect the wall from damage.


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> >On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:22:22 -0500, Chris Coddington
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
> >>variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
> >>How much should I plan to spend?
> >>
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> >>
>
>

Yeah, the kiddies are out of school again, and mommy and daddy aren't
supervising their computer use. Sigh.

djb

--
There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

"Chris Coddington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
> variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
> How much should I plan to spend?
>
> I want it to look like the saw in this photo:

Does you mommy know you are playing with her computer? Don't let her catch
you or she may spank you. Oh, you're too busy spanking the monkey.

Looks like your dead in the water. Prey , your upstairs neighbors are
woodworkers. Or build them some furtiture !
"Chris Coddington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
> variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
> How much should I plan to spend?
>
> I want it to look like the saw in this photo:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/lb79
>
> Chris
>
>
>

Honestly, theres all kinds of interpretations of what ' good ' is.

A serious consideration ( to me ) when buying a table saw is that
built in problem of the square the manufacturer provides. The slot
cut into the table top that the flimsy square rides in always has side
play. Side play in the square means a crosscut will always be less or
more than 90 degress.

I find that factor in a table saw less than a desireable brand to
buy... in other words... why should I have to fix a brand new machine
to bring it up to grade ???

I went to 2 fully equiped wookworker retail shores a few months ago
and tested every floor model they had and every brand name had exactly
the same problem... the long tongue of the square rides in a track
machined into the table top and every last one of them has side play.

I have an Oliver # 80 Variety Bench Saw in my shop. There is no such
problem in this model. I've had the good fortune to use a few other
model numbers in the family of Oliver and none of them has this built
in side play either. With the # 80 model the whole left side of the
table which runs in a track in a sub-table and on ball bearings... the
left side of the table moves and the stock stays still ! A 32 inch
maximum board can be cross cut on this saw.

Other Oliver models of smaller size ( the model 80 takes a 16 inch
blade ) has an upside down ' T ' groove cut into the table top that
the long tongue of the square rides in... hence...no side play.

I am a sort which would rather rip a 10 foot 4 x 4 of rock maple with
a hand saw than give into a table saw manufacturer than produces a
machine they are calling ' quality ' when that square of their's
wobbles from side to side in that table top groove.

Anyway, if I were shopping for a table saw I'd consider what I plan
to use it for... percision work or basic work.... hard use or
occasional use. I would certainly consider a used machine which has
the features already mentioned since an old Oliver is better than
every brand I've ever seen in all the wookworker retail stores to
date.... and I've been in this trade for 40 years.

What should you spend ??? Get a second mortgage... sell part of your
family of inlaws into slavery... find Osama and get the reward...
quality machinery commands high prices whereas low quality machinery
sells for pocket change.

Take no offense because of my bolsterous speech. I'm from the 'old
school' and highly respect the trade of woodworking and always
recommend buying the best the trade has to offer.


http://www.oliverusedmachinery.com/main.html









On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:22:22 -0500, Chris Coddington
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
>variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
>How much should I plan to spend?
>
>I want it to look like the saw in this photo:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/lb79
>
>Chris
>
>

D. Martin wrote:

> I'm planning on helping this guy, I'm turning a fence post right now
> and he might know where to put it.
>
> DM

Judging from the picture, He'll probaly enjoy putting there. :-O
--
Donnie Vazquez
Sunderland, MD

Oakman, You obviously have not tried the link posted in the original
message that you replied to. The person posting this is not looking
for a TS.

I'm planning on helping this guy, I'm turning a fence post right now
and he might know where to put it.

DM




On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 06:27:33 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>Honestly, theres all kinds of interpretations of what ' good ' is.
>
>A serious consideration ( to me ) when buying a table saw is that
>built in problem of the square the manufacturer provides. The slot
>cut into the table top that the flimsy square rides in always has side
>play. Side play in the square means a crosscut will always be less or
>more than 90 degress.
>
>I find that factor in a table saw less than a desireable brand to
>buy... in other words... why should I have to fix a brand new machine
>to bring it up to grade ???
>
>I went to 2 fully equiped wookworker retail shores a few months ago
>and tested every floor model they had and every brand name had exactly
>the same problem... the long tongue of the square rides in a track
>machined into the table top and every last one of them has side play.
>
>I have an Oliver # 80 Variety Bench Saw in my shop. There is no such
>problem in this model. I've had the good fortune to use a few other
>model numbers in the family of Oliver and none of them has this built
>in side play either. With the # 80 model the whole left side of the
>table which runs in a track in a sub-table and on ball bearings... the
>left side of the table moves and the stock stays still ! A 32 inch
>maximum board can be cross cut on this saw.
>
>Other Oliver models of smaller size ( the model 80 takes a 16 inch
>blade ) has an upside down ' T ' groove cut into the table top that
>the long tongue of the square rides in... hence...no side play.
>
>I am a sort which would rather rip a 10 foot 4 x 4 of rock maple with
>a hand saw than give into a table saw manufacturer than produces a
>machine they are calling ' quality ' when that square of their's
>wobbles from side to side in that table top groove.
>
>Anyway, if I were shopping for a table saw I'd consider what I plan
>to use it for... percision work or basic work.... hard use or
>occasional use. I would certainly consider a used machine which has
>the features already mentioned since an old Oliver is better than
>every brand I've ever seen in all the wookworker retail stores to
>date.... and I've been in this trade for 40 years.
>
>What should you spend ??? Get a second mortgage... sell part of your
>family of inlaws into slavery... find Osama and get the reward...
>quality machinery commands high prices whereas low quality machinery
>sells for pocket change.
>
>Take no offense because of my bolsterous speech. I'm from the 'old
>school' and highly respect the trade of woodworking and always
>recommend buying the best the trade has to offer.
>
>
>http://www.oliverusedmachinery.com/main.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:22:22 -0500, Chris Coddington
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
>>variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
>>How much should I plan to spend?
>>
>>I want it to look like the saw in this photo:
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/lb79
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>

Can't go wrong with the Ryobi BT3100 for less than $300 at Home Depot

Chris Coddington <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
> variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
> How much should I plan to spend?
>
> I want it to look like the saw in this photo:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/lb79
>
> Chris

TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!

Chris is a giving guy, he likes men only
as portrayed in his Christmas photo giving
head to his boyfriend. He is obviously
confused and doesn't know where to find
any more of his kind.

"Chris Coddington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hello. I am looking to buy a table saw. Not the flimsy table top
> variety, and not the most expensive Jet either. But a good table saw.
> How much should I plan to spend?
>
> I want it to look like the saw in this photo:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/lb79
>
> Chris
>
>
>

Phil said:

>TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!
>
>Chris is a giving guy, he likes men only
>as portrayed in his Christmas photo giving
>head to his boyfriend. He is obviously
>confused and doesn't know where to find
>any more of his kind.

Perhaps he misunderstood the meaning of WoodWorking... <g>


Greg G.