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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

14/02/2004 4:39 PM

Ebay insanity again

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.
dll?ViewItem&item=2596273334&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

Powermatic 719A mortiser. Seller's minimum bid is $693 plus $85 shipping,
total $779.

On sale at Woodcraft it's $719 plus $44 sales tax, total $763.

Wonder if anyone will bid on this?

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?


This topic has 13 replies

Gn

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

14/02/2004 8:25 PM

Easy enough to fix...when you search for "Powermatic" just put "-<his
ebay-id>" (w/o the quotation marks or <> signs) after it and you won't see
any of his auctions. I have to add "-sendeancameras" after my Bronica
camera searches to filter out another keyword spammer.

"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I really dislike that guy - Bibb Tool and Cutter. He lists all his Jet
> tools as "Jet/Powermatic" so that when you do a search on Powermatic
> you're forced to see his Jet auctions as well. I complained to him and
> he told me if I didn't like his auctions, don't read them. He said Jet
> owns Powermatic, thus it's okay.
>
> In case you're thinking along the same lines, it's like listing a
> Crown Victoria as a Lincoln, because Ford owns Lincoln.
>
> I complained to ebay (keyword spamming is a TOS violation), but
> haven't seen anything yet. I invite you to do the same. I notice that
> none of his Powermatic auctions have "Jet" in them.
>
>
> - -
> LRod
>
> Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>
> Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>
> http://www.woodbutcher.net

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

14/02/2004 11:09 PM

Robert L. Witte wrote:

>> Powermatic 719A mortiser. Seller's minimum bid is $693 plus $85
>> shipping, total $779.
>>
>> On sale at Woodcraft it's $719 plus $44 sales tax, total $763.
>>
>> Wonder if anyone will bid on this?
>
> Maybe someone that doesn't have a Woodcraft nearby.
>
> Robert

Amazon has free shipping. Woodcraft has a web page. Still not a good deal
on eBay.
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Mo' Sawdust

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

15/02/2004 1:49 PM

> It just irritates me that I have
> to do that to avoid the stuff.

Sorta like how most of the world seems to feel with
respect to email spam.

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[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

15/02/2004 8:42 PM

Greetings and Salutations...

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:19:22 GMT, Lazarus Long
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:11:26 -0600, John Crea <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Bob,
>>
>>But since they are bidding on eBAY, you would think they have the
>>ability to check the current pricing at various online sources and
>>KNOW they are getting ripped off
>>
>>John
>>
>
>I'm interested in a neanderthal tool (a froe) and know where to get a
>new one at a reasonable price. I see that on Ebay, used ones
>routinely sell for more than an identical new one. Of course this may
>not count if you're looking for a antique.
>
>Bidders simply don't check around. A few minutes spent on a search
>engine like google could save them some bux, but apparently no ones
>interested in saving money.

I don't know that folks are uninterested in saving money...but
I am SURE that they are deluded about Ebay. Ebay has the same
problems that exist in any other auction. Folks seem to think that
BECAUSE it is an auction they are going to get a good deal...they
don't realize that in live auctions, the auctioneer is doing his
LEVEL BEST to run the bidding up over retail. He works for the seller
not the bidder, and his job is to get as much money for the stuff
as is possible.
There is the competition aspect of it too. Most folks have
hunted for the items they are bidding on, and, a LOT of folks seem
to feel that once they have bid on, or have decided to bid on an item,
it is "theirs" and it will be a cold day in Hell before anyone takes
it away from them! So...having committed to the item, they will often
bid too much to get it.
Another seductive thing about Ebay is that thought that "if I
only bid a buck or two more, I can get it". That is likely the reason
that folks end up with stuff they bought for more than retail. After
all, unless one is getting something for pennies on the dollar, it
does not take that many cycles for that 50% savings to become a 10%
savings (not including shipping)...and at that point, one really has
to ask if it is worth it. Good for sellers, bad for buyers.
I do wonder about folks, though, when it comes to
cross-checking prices. I have seen a number of items on Ebay go for
near retail, when a quick Google search found much cheaper
alternatives for the same item. As an example, I have a client whose
CD-R/RW drive went toes up the other day. We went onto Ebay first
off, to see what we could find. There were some fairly non-scary
prices there, actually ( well under $150 or so for DVD/CD writers), so
I ended up bidding on one - a NEC, if I recall. I did a quick search
and the first couple of links I found for the driver quoted a street
price of $150. I put in $110, and another bidder ended up taking it
for $113. Well, I did a bit more extensive search on the Net and
ended up getting the drive for $86 or so out of a place in CA.
For the first year or so that Ebay was in existance, it was
a buyer's market. I got some spectacular deals on there. Now,
though, it is far more a seller's market, and while possible to get
good deals, one has to be more cautious, spend more time researching,
and (hardest of all) be willing to walk away from the deal when it
goes "too high".
Regards
Dave Mundt

Ms

"Moosh:)"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

17/02/2004 4:29 PM

On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:19:22 GMT, Lazarus Long
<[email protected]> posted:

>I'm interested in a neanderthal tool (a froe) and know where to get a
>new one at a reasonable price. I see that on Ebay, used ones
>routinely sell for more than an identical new one. Of course this may
>not count if you're looking for a antique.

Gidday, LL. I am interested in froes. I am considering attaching by a
large bolt a large knife (made from a large mower blade) to one of the
heavy steel stanchions in my shed and then the other end with a long
heavy pipe attached. I will put my logs under this knife then sit my
fat ass on the end of the pipe. I've seen flash jobbies made by
farming/engineering types using hydraulics. I figure splitting logs
and then flattening one side with my jointah and then thicknessing
will give me some mighty purty wood from logs collected from tree
loppers and the like.

Moosh:)

nR

[email protected] (Robert L. Witte)

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

14/02/2004 2:49 PM

[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.
> dll?ViewItem&item=2596273334&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>
> Powermatic 719A mortiser. Seller's minimum bid is $693 plus $85 shipping,
> total $779.
>
> On sale at Woodcraft it's $719 plus $44 sales tax, total $763.
>
> Wonder if anyone will bid on this?

Maybe someone that doesn't have a Woodcraft nearby.

Robert

Ma

Mark and Kim Smith

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

15/02/2004 12:05 AM

George wrote:

>Easy enough to fix...when you search for "Powermatic" just put "-<his
>ebay-id>" (w/o the quotation marks or <> signs) after it and you won't see
>any of his auctions. I have to add "-sendeancameras" after my Bronica
>camera searches to filter out another keyword spammer.
>
>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>I really dislike that guy - Bibb Tool and Cutter. He lists all his Jet
>>tools as "Jet/Powermatic" so that when you do a search on Powermatic
>>you're forced to see his Jet auctions as well. I complained to him and
>>he told me if I didn't like his auctions, don't read them. He said Jet
>>owns Powermatic, thus it's okay.
>>
>>In case you're thinking along the same lines, it's like listing a
>>Crown Victoria as a Lincoln, because Ford owns Lincoln.
>>
>>I complained to ebay (keyword spamming is a TOS violation), but
>>haven't seen anything yet. I invite you to do the same. I notice that
>>none of his Powermatic auctions have "Jet" in them.
>>
>>
>>- -
>>LRod
>>
>>Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite
>>
>>Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999
>>
>>http://www.woodbutcher.net
>>
>>
>
>
>
Good trick to know, thanks!

LL

LRod

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

15/02/2004 5:12 PM

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:25:18 -0500, "George" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Easy enough to fix...when you search for "Powermatic" just put "-<his
>ebay-id>" (w/o the quotation marks or <> signs) after it and you won't see
>any of his auctions.

Actually, -jet does the same thing. It just irritates me that I have
to do that to avoid the stuff.

Thanks.


- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

fF

[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt)

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

16/02/2004 8:30 AM

Lazarus Long <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
> I'm interested in a neanderthal tool (a froe) and know where to get a
> new one at a reasonable price. I see that on Ebay, used ones
> routinely sell for more than an identical new one. Of course this may
> not count if you're looking for a antique.

With froes it probably is a colectability issue, like broad axes.

But with some tools it is a quality issue. Genuine (old) Buck
brothers chisels will routinely sell for more than new, and
with good reason.

--

FF

LL

LRod

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

14/02/2004 8:30 PM

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:39:52 GMT, [email protected] (Doug Miller)
wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.
>dll?ViewItem&item=2596273334&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>
>Powermatic 719A mortiser. Seller's minimum bid is $693 plus $85 shipping,
>total $779.

I really dislike that guy - Bibb Tool and Cutter. He lists all his Jet
tools as "Jet/Powermatic" so that when you do a search on Powermatic
you're forced to see his Jet auctions as well. I complained to him and
he told me if I didn't like his auctions, don't read them. He said Jet
owns Powermatic, thus it's okay.

In case you're thinking along the same lines, it's like listing a
Crown Victoria as a Lincoln, because Ford owns Lincoln.

I complained to ebay (keyword spamming is a TOS violation), but
haven't seen anything yet. I invite you to do the same. I notice that
none of his Powermatic auctions have "Jet" in them.


- -
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

JC

John Crea

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

14/02/2004 5:11 PM

Bob,

But since they are bidding on eBAY, you would think they have the
ability to check the current pricing at various online sources and
KNOW they are getting ripped off

John

n 14 Feb 2004 14:49:08 -0800, [email protected] (Robert L. Witte)
wrote:

>[email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.
>> dll?ViewItem&item=2596273334&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>>
>> Powermatic 719A mortiser. Seller's minimum bid is $693 plus $85 shipping,
>> total $779.
>>
>> On sale at Woodcraft it's $719 plus $44 sales tax, total $763.
>>
>> Wonder if anyone will bid on this?
>
>Maybe someone that doesn't have a Woodcraft nearby.
>
>Robert

LL

Lazarus Long

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

15/02/2004 4:19 PM

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:11:26 -0600, John Crea <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Bob,
>
>But since they are bidding on eBAY, you would think they have the
>ability to check the current pricing at various online sources and
>KNOW they are getting ripped off
>
>John
>

I'm interested in a neanderthal tool (a froe) and know where to get a
new one at a reasonable price. I see that on Ebay, used ones
routinely sell for more than an identical new one. Of course this may
not count if you're looking for a antique.

Bidders simply don't check around. A few minutes spent on a search
engine like google could save them some bux, but apparently no ones
interested in saving money.

YF

"Young_carpenter"

in reply to [email protected] (Doug Miller) on 14/02/2004 4:39 PM

14/02/2004 3:41 PM

Of course! Unless you think humanity has changed in the past few
moments...........

--


"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.
> dll?ViewItem&item=2596273334&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1
>
> Powermatic 719A mortiser. Seller's minimum bid is $693 plus $85 shipping,
> total $779.
>
> On sale at Woodcraft it's $719 plus $44 sales tax, total $763.
>
> Wonder if anyone will bid on this?
>
> --
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for
Miss America?



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