Dovetail

On Dec 22, 5:13=A0am, [email protected] (THOMAS CLEVELAND) wrote:
> Hi gang,
> =A0 =A0 Looking for some help, I am making a cedar lined oak hope chest fo=
r
> my grand daughter, she will graduate in 2008, and have a plan for chest
> with three drawers, and plan to use dovetail corners on them and I can't
> remember where I had seen it, but do recall seeing a "heart shaped" jig,
> any ideas where I can find a jig for heart shaped dovetails???
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas Cleveland

That Taunton link is the same article I wanted to find for you. So
now I don't have to search for the issue.
Marc

> >
> > > any ideas where I can find a jig for heart
> > > shaped dovetails???
> >
> > http://www.woodline.com/p-1825-route-r-joint-precision-dovetail-joine...

> They look more like dog bones/biscuits to me. Dogtails? A little too
> waggish. Bonetails? Now that just sounds dirty...

> R

Unfortunatley I have not seen a dovetail jig, but hand cut ones can be
found here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=kOHS2418gQYC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=heart+shaped+dovetails&source=web&ots=VtJqD7AVo8&sig=mhCYq9Z0Nbrt3oGzMTkxOUsr0_w#PPA54,M1

Regards,

Bryan

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> On Dec 22, 11:31 am, Bryan McCormick <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > any ideas where I can find a jig for heart
>
> http://www.leighjigs.com/i1.php#
>
> The Leigh jig looks great. The video mentions the adjustment, but is
> not demonstrated.
>
> My concern is that the process may be a bit more difficult/subject to
> error than the video would imply - disclosed.
>
> Has anyone sufficient experience with this (pretty expensive) setup to
> comment on thier experience and ease (or lack of) use?
>
> Same goes for the Route-R-Joint Precision Dovetail Joinery System at:
>
http://www.woodline.com/p-1825-route-r-joint-precision-dovetail-joinery-syst
em.aspx
>
>
>


I have both. I bought the Leigh D4R recently (last spring) but received the
Woodline Rout-R-Joint as a gift several years ago. The Rout-R-joint is
relatively easy to use, but it doesn't always make very tight joints, at
least not for me. I like it's ability to make some of the more unusual
styles of joints, including one that slightly resembles a heart. It comes
with a very thorough video, but no manual is provided with it.

The Leigh D4R makes absolutely perfect dovetail joints. I made perfect
through dovetails on the first try and found them to be quite easy to do.
The half blind dovetails require some experimenting to find the correct bit
height but this is necessary to do for all half blind dovetail fixtures.
Once you do this and write the height measurements down for each size
dovetail bit that you have you can then easily repeat the set up and make
perfect joints every time. The Leigh jig requires a slight learning curve
but if you follow their very well written manual and make a few practice
joints of each type with it you will be very happy that you bought it. The
adjustable width pins and tails ability is probably it's greatest feature,
and the fact that it can cut through, half blind, and sliding dovetails
without buying any additional attachments makes this jig stand well out in
front of the others and well worth what it costs. The Leigh jig has options
to allow it to make other styles of dovetail-like joints called iso-loc
joints, but none of these resemble a heart pattern.

My Rout-R-Joint system is available if anyone wants to buy it from me.

Charley

On Dec 22, 7:26 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> THOMAS CLEVELAND wrote:
>
> > any ideas where I can find a jig for heart
> > shaped dovetails???
>
> http://www.woodline.com/p-1825-route-r-joint-precision-dovetail-joine...

They look more like dog bones/biscuits to me. Dogtails? A little too
waggish. Bonetails? Now that just sounds dirty...

R

On Dec 22, 5:13 am, [email protected] (THOMAS CLEVELAND) wrote:
> Hi gang,
> Looking for some help, I am making a cedar lined oak hope chest for
> my grand daughter, she will graduate in 2008, and have a plan for chest
> with three drawers, and plan to use dovetail corners on them and I can't
> remember where I had seen it, but do recall seeing a "heart shaped" jig,
> any ideas where I can find a jig for heart shaped dovetails???
>

After you consider the dog bone style, take a look at:
http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=886-459

The pin & crescent style that has been around since the '90s...1890s.
It was popular for about five years in that period, and recently,
Woodworker's Supply decided to produce the jig. I think the result is
not quite heart shaped, but is about as close as the dog bone, and I
like it better. I have NO idea whether the jig is easy or hard to use.
It looks simple, but that's catalog copy: I've written enough of that
to know that sometimes what is simple to the copywriter isn't simple
to the end user.

On Dec 22, 11:31 am, Bryan McCormick <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > any ideas where I can find a jig for heart

http://www.leighjigs.com/i1.php#

The Leigh jig looks great. The video mentions the adjustment, but is
not demonstrated.

My concern is that the process may be a bit more difficult/subject to
error than the video would imply - disclosed.

Has anyone sufficient experience with this (pretty expensive) setup to
comment on thier experience and ease (or lack of) use?

Same goes for the Route-R-Joint Precision Dovetail Joinery System at:
http://www.woodline.com/p-1825-route-r-joint-precision-dovetail-joinery-system.aspx

Hello Thomas,
I'm typing too soon to find the article but in an old issue of Fine
Woodworking there was a builder who used heart shaped dovetails and he
called them "lovetails". I can not recall how he cut them. If I can
find the article today I will let you know which issue and I can copy
it and mail it off next week when I return to work.
Leigh Manufacturing makes their Isoloc jigs that give you a rounded
profile but theirs is not heart shaped.
Marc

http://www.leighjigs.com/i1.php

Google "Heart shaped dovetails" lots o' links.

Try this one from FWW

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/ProjectsAndDesign/ProjectsAndDesignPD=
F.aspx?id=3D2222

On Dec 22, 2:13=A0am, [email protected] (THOMAS CLEVELAND) wrote:
> Hi gang,
> =A0 =A0 Looking for some help, I am making a cedar lined oak hope chest fo=
r
> my grand daughter, she will graduate in 2008, and have a plan for chest
> with three drawers, and plan to use dovetail corners on them and I can't
> remember where I had seen it, but do recall seeing a "heart shaped" jig,
> any ideas where I can find a jig for heart shaped dovetails???
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas Cleveland

THOMAS CLEVELAND wrote:
> Hi gang,
> Looking for some help, I am making a cedar lined oak hope chest
> for my grand daughter, she will graduate in 2008, and have a plan
> for
> chest with three drawers, and plan to use dovetail corners on them
> and I can't remember where I had seen it, but do recall seeing a
> "heart shaped" jig, any ideas where I can find a jig for heart
> shaped
> dovetails???

http://www.woodline.com/p-1825-route-r-joint-precision-dovetail-joinery-system.aspx

But you might also want to read
http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/ProjectsAndDesign/ProjectsAndDesignPDF.aspx?id=2222,
which describes a (to my eye anyway) more attractive variation that
was hand cut.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas Cleveland

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