I fully accept the research results that many of you posted. I have thought about
this for several days and have concluded that the man in my barracks somehow, and for
his own private reasons, faked the CMH. I never saw the medal itself and I now doubt
that he had the medal. I only saw what he said was the CMH ribbon. I had never seen
one before. None of my fellow cadets probably had ever seen one before either, except
perhaps in a military museum or something similar. We were as green as gourds,
gullible, and eager to fly. We just accepted what he said as true. I suspect the 2nd
Lieutenant was totally unprepared for what happened. My observation of the officer
was that he was "shook" when it happened. That may have been the only time the cadet
wore the ribbon but I am not certain of that. I also now think the guy set up the
officer on purpose since that particular officer had a bad reputation with the
cadets.
I did see and hear what I said in my OP. The rest of what I posted is now not my
opinion, was most likely inaccurate - or worse - and should be ignored.
I am sorry for the dust up this has caused. It was not intentional.
Hoyt W.
Hoyt,
Your story reminded me of an incident I had with a young sailor back at
Naval Guided Missile School, at DamNeck,VA. I was a Chief, (E-7) and
DamNeck was a training command that I was stationed at. I was walking
toward the barracks when I spotted this young sailor coming toward me. What
had caught my eye was his chest full of ribbons. Not a few were ones that I
had and I knew there was no way this Seaman Recrute, (E-1) could have been
awarded them. I stopped him and asked him where he had gotten these
ribbons. His reply, "Oh, their mine! I bought them!"
Best Regards,
Ross
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I fully accept the research results that many of you posted. I have
thought about
> this for several days and have concluded that the man in my barracks
somehow, and for
> his own private reasons, faked the CMH. I never saw the medal itself and I
now doubt
> that he had the medal. I only saw what he said was the CMH ribbon. I had
never seen
> one before. None of my fellow cadets probably had ever seen one before
either, except
> perhaps in a military museum or something similar. We were as green as
gourds,
> gullible, and eager to fly. We just accepted what he said as true. I
suspect the 2nd
> Lieutenant was totally unprepared for what happened. My observation of the
officer
> was that he was "shook" when it happened. That may have been the only time
the cadet
> wore the ribbon but I am not certain of that. I also now think the guy set
up the
> officer on purpose since that particular officer had a bad reputation with
the
> cadets.
>
> I did see and hear what I said in my OP. The rest of what I posted is now
not my
> opinion, was most likely inaccurate - or worse - and should be ignored.
>
> I am sorry for the dust up this has caused. It was not intentional.
>
> Hoyt W.
>
>
>
Leon wrote:
> "Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > I am sorry for the dust up this has caused. It was not intentional.
> >
> > Hoyt W.
>
> And that was more than just a few years ago... ;~) You are lucky to have
> even remembered the incident not to mention the exact details.
That incident was early in 1954 - fifty years ago. If I said or implied 1953, I was
in error - again. Not "exact" enough though. In my OP I said the cadet was wearing
the metal. That was also incorrect. He was wearing the ribbon [fake]. Yup, getting
older. I will be 70 in July.
Hoyt W.
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Mom's Mom was a WWI nurse. Mom's Dad was in the 32nd "Red Arrow" division in
WWI. Mom was a WWII Wave, Dad was on a minesweeper in the Pacific.
We missed the Korean "conflict". I remember looking for my brother's
birthday in the Chicago Tribune when the posted the draft results.
Fortunately, we missed that one too.
>
> I am sorry for the dust up this has caused. It was not intentional.
>
The only dust-up you caused was reminding me to take the time to read up
(again) on that famous Red Arrow division. Wisconsin and Michigan National
Guard units: Les Terribles!
Think I'll take a few more quiet minutes and think about my Grandpa.
For that - Hoyt - I'm greatful!
You've my respect for setting the record straight, Hoyt.
dave
Hoyt Weathers wrote:
> I fully accept the research results that many of you posted. I have thought about
> this for several days and have concluded that the man in my barracks somehow, and for
> his own private reasons, faked the CMH. I never saw the medal itself and I now doubt
> that he had the medal. I only saw what he said was the CMH ribbon. I had never seen
> one before. None of my fellow cadets probably had ever seen one before either, except
> perhaps in a military museum or something similar. We were as green as gourds,
> gullible, and eager to fly. We just accepted what he said as true. I suspect the 2nd
> Lieutenant was totally unprepared for what happened. My observation of the officer
> was that he was "shook" when it happened. That may have been the only time the cadet
> wore the ribbon but I am not certain of that. I also now think the guy set up the
> officer on purpose since that particular officer had a bad reputation with the
> cadets.
>
> I did see and hear what I said in my OP. The rest of what I posted is now not my
> opinion, was most likely inaccurate - or worse - and should be ignored.
>
> I am sorry for the dust up this has caused. It was not intentional.
>
> Hoyt W.
>
>
>
"Hoyt Weathers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I am sorry for the dust up this has caused. It was not intentional.
>
> Hoyt W.
And that was more than just a few years ago... ;~) You are lucky to have
even remembered the incident not to mention the exact details.