I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
(For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
So is my item most likely lost in the void, or what? I haven't had to wait
this long for anything since the days of sending off for something as a kid
and having to wait six to eight weeks to get my dongle.
When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
What does "parcel post" mean anyway? Old fashioned, non-priority US Mail?
Even at that, nine mail days seems excessive to me. I seem to recall it
taking five to seven for something to get somewhere. Of course that was
when stamps cost 20 cents.
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"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
>
Give them two weeks. No sooner!
Greg
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
> (For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
>
> So is my item most likely lost in the void, or what? I haven't had to wait
> this long for anything since the days of sending off for something as a kid
> and having to wait six to eight weeks to get my dongle.
>
> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
> want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>
> What does "parcel post" mean anyway? Old fashioned, non-priority US Mail?
> Even at that, nine mail days seems excessive to me. I seem to recall it
> taking five to seven for something to get somewhere. Of course that was
> when stamps cost 20 cents.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
I have ordered from Harbor Freight twice and both times it took over three
weeks.
Neal
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:31:18 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mark Jerde wrote:
>
>>> I had a real dongle once.
>>
>> If you were doing relatively high-end imaging in the mid 1990's you had
>> parallel port dongles. I still have maybe a half-dozen in a drawer
>
>I can't remember what the dongle was for. It was Dad's. Something for
>work. In the '80s, I think.
>
>I'm glad dongles are dead.
Actually, I'd rather see a USB dongle for copy protection on Win XP
than the stuff they're doing now.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:07:32 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>No gloat, but yes, they're a lot better than what I had. Lathe tools, if
>you must know. They're about 700% better than what I had, which tells you
>how bad the ones I had were. They're really not half bad tools, and will
>probably last a long time.
Don't tell me that you spent nearly $12 to have the $9.99 set
sent to you weeks later. What, you say you bought the $29.99
set? (Prolly the same metal with nicer handles, eh?) Please
don't tell me that. I can't stand hearing stuff like that.
<titter>
>> Drop by the store and you'll change your mind. Some of the base
>
>The hell of it is that it shipped from the very same place I almost stopped
>by. Dillon, SC. That place looks pretty huge.
How are the bruises on your backside healing, sir?
(You HAVE been repeatedly kicking yourself in the ass over
this one, have you not?)
Don't forget the 7 P's:
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance
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You just like to say "dongle", don't you?
Butthead:
huh-huh, dude, he said dongle. huh, huh, huh-huh.
Beavis:
Yeah, dongle. heh, heh, heh-heh.
codepath
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
> (For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
>
> So is my item most likely lost in the void, or what? I haven't had to
wait
> this long for anything since the days of sending off for something as a
kid
> and having to wait six to eight weeks to get my dongle.
>
> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
> want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>
> What does "parcel post" mean anyway? Old fashioned, non-priority US Mail?
> Even at that, nine mail days seems excessive to me. I seem to recall it
> taking five to seven for something to get somewhere. Of course that was
> when stamps cost 20 cents.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
Larry Jaques wrote:
> Suckage, but how could you not know with that big, red, all-caps
> text showing on the basket page?
>
> "SHIPPING CHARGES, TERMS AND CONDITIONS"
Yeah, who ever reads that crap anyway? :)
> Yes, they should. Their customer service is the best minimum-wage can
> buy, as usual. They could certainly use input from Lee Valley, eh?
Kind of a double edged sword, that. I wish I had been able to buy this from
Lee Valley, but OTOH, I'm glad Lee Valley doesn't sell crap like this. If
they started selling el-cheapo crap, they wouldn't be Lee Valley for very
long.
> So, it the item worth a shit? What did you get? No GLOAT?
> <gd&r>
No gloat, but yes, they're a lot better than what I had. Lathe tools, if
you must know. They're about 700% better than what I had, which tells you
how bad the ones I had were. They're really not half bad tools, and will
probably last a long time.
> Drop by the store and you'll change your mind. Some of the base
The hell of it is that it shipped from the very same place I almost stopped
by. Dillon, SC. That place looks pretty huge.
--
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http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Mark Jerde wrote:
>> I had a real dongle once.
>
> If you were doing relatively high-end imaging in the mid 1990's you had
> parallel port dongles. I still have maybe a half-dozen in a drawer
I can't remember what the dongle was for. It was Dad's. Something for
work. In the '80s, I think.
I'm glad dongles are dead.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Larry Jaques wrote:
>>work. In the '80s, I think.
>
> I think AutoCad started that and most high-end accounting
> programs used them for awhile. Truly sucky things.
Peach Tree maybe. Definitely not CAD anything. Dad is a grocer.
--
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Silvan wrote:
> I will *never* order from these assholes again. The $11 I paid for
> shipping is a lot of money to me, and it damn sure should have been
> enough to guarantee better than 10-14 business days. This is
> bullshit.
>
> I probably deserve what I get for not reading the 10-14 day thing,
> wherever it was printed, and cancelling my order on the spot though.
> I had previously cancelled all HF orders before actually completing
> the transaction, once I saw how completely exhorbitant the S&H fee
> was, but I really needed these things, and I couldn't afford to pay
> for the quality Lee Valley offerings.
>
> (I'm being myserious because I'm ashamed of what I bought. I know
> they will be crappy on top of having taken half a month to get here.
> I just can't afford anything better right now. I *am* pobre.)
I think the answer is to save your pop bottles until you can do a $50 order
with the free shipping. I did a $50 order to see what their stuff is like,
half expecting to have thrown away $50. (No local stores that I know of.)
The HF shipping department loaded up my order on their express burros and in
under a month the UPS guy tossed the package from his passing van towards my
front door.
Some HF is junk but some is ok. I *am* planning to buy a bunch of Pittsburg
bar clamps from them. I couldn't detect any real operational differences
between the HF Pittsburg clamps and my beloved Jorgys.
-- Mark
Silvan wrote:
> codepath wrote:
>
>> You just like to say "dongle", don't you?
>
> I had a real dongle once.
If you were doing relatively high-end imaging in the mid 1990's you had
parallel port dongles. I still have maybe a half-dozen in a drawer
somewhere, useless except to a museum. I recall seeing 3 dongles connected
to a printer port at the same time. Voltage drops mattered so they had to
be connected in a specific order. What a PITA.
What's worse is that I'm reasonbly certain that some of the companies that
forced these anti-piracy devices on their victims, er, customers, were
engaged in wholesale piracy themselves behind closed doors. :-( "9
progammers? Once copy of MS C++ is enough!")
-- Mark
Larry Jaques wrote:
>>> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them
>>> I want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>
> Pobrefreakincito. ;)
Well tomorrow marks 10 business days. it probably won't come in tomorrow
either then. Another weekend shot. Piss!
If I had known it was going to take this long to get the damn things, I
would have stopped by the Harbor Freight store on I-95 coming out of
Florence and probably had them already.
I will *never* order from these assholes again. The $11 I paid for shipping
is a lot of money to me, and it damn sure should have been enough to
guarantee better than 10-14 business days. This is bullshit.
I probably deserve what I get for not reading the 10-14 day thing, wherever
it was printed, and cancelling my order on the spot though. I had
previously cancelled all HF orders before actually completing the
transaction, once I saw how completely exhorbitant the S&H fee was, but I
really needed these things, and I couldn't afford to pay for the quality
Lee Valley offerings.
(I'm being myserious because I'm ashamed of what I bought. I know they will
be crappy on top of having taken half a month to get here. I just can't
afford anything better right now. I *am* pobre.)
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I ordered a set of knives for my dad. He lived in Camarillo, CA and the
knives were shipped from Camarillo, CA. Took 2 weeks. He could have walked
there quicker.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
> (For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
>
> So is my item most likely lost in the void, or what? I haven't had to
wait
> this long for anything since the days of sending off for something as a
kid
> and having to wait six to eight weeks to get my dongle.
>
> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
> want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>
> What does "parcel post" mean anyway? Old fashioned, non-priority US Mail?
> Even at that, nine mail days seems excessive to me. I seem to recall it
> taking five to seven for something to get somewhere. Of course that was
> when stamps cost 20 cents.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:54:47 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>>If I had known it was going to take this long to get the damn things, I
>>>would have stopped by the Harbor Freight store on I-95 coming out of
>>>Florence and probably had them already.
>>
>> If possible, ALWAYS pickup direct. That way you can open the box
>> and find any broken parts, key on missing parts, check quality,
>> etc.
>
>Yeah, well, true, but I didn't know until I got there that I would have had
>time to waste en route. I often don't. Ordering them delivered was a
>safer bet. (I've been by that place lotsa times, and have never stopped.)
>
>> It's only supposed to be $5.95 handling, free shipping for orders
>> over $50. They sell a LOT of items, boy.
>
>It was $5.95 plus $6.95 or something like that. One for shipping, one for
>"handling." It did cost less than $50 though. I might have spent more if
>I had known.
Suckage, but how could you not know with that big, red, all-caps
text showing on the basket page?
"SHIPPING CHARGES, TERMS AND CONDITIONS"
>OK, so I might have this and I might have that. Call me a bad consumer, but
>I call them a crappy customer service provider for not making things like
>this more obvious. They should say on every page "SPEND $50 SO WE DON'T
>SCREW YOU ON THE SHIPPING" and "WE USE THE MOST CRAPPY SHIPPING POSSIBLE,
>SO DON'T ORDER THIS UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE WHEN YOU GET IT."
Yes, they should. Their customer service is the best minimum-wage can
buy, as usual. They could certainly use input from Lee Valley, eh?
>I'm less pissed off now that I actually have the damn thing, but I'm still
>not going to buy from them again if I can help it.
So, it the item worth a shit? What did you get? No GLOAT?
<gd&r>
Drop by the store and you'll change your mind. Some of the base
materials can't be bought here for less than they sell the finished
goods, with all the work in them. Amazing. If nothing else, their
safety goods (other than the sucky tiny dust masks for mice faces)
like goggles, muffs, and face shields, are half the price of other
stores and many are USA-made (Western Safety).
And try one of their $5 saur blades. They're amazingly nice for
the price, and good for cutting those iffy/dirty woods so you
don't risk damaging your Forrest. (Some day I'll own one of the
latter, but not today.)
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HF shipping is slow, no matter what you order. If you try to contact
customer service, the answer is ALWAYS,
10 to 14 days. Forget about a tracking number. But, on the other hand, it
always gets here withing the 10 to 14 days as they promise.
Leslie
--
She's got tools, and she knows how to use them.
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
> (For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
>
> So is my item most likely lost in the void, or what? I haven't had to
wait
> this long for anything since the days of sending off for something as a
kid
> and having to wait six to eight weeks to get my dongle.
>
> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
> want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>
> What does "parcel post" mean anyway? Old fashioned, non-priority US Mail?
> Even at that, nine mail days seems excessive to me. I seem to recall it
> taking five to seven for something to get somewhere. Of course that was
> when stamps cost 20 cents.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:13:22 GMT, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:31:18 -0500, Silvan
><[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>>Mark Jerde wrote:
>>
>>>> I had a real dongle once.
>>>
>>> If you were doing relatively high-end imaging in the mid 1990's you had
>>> parallel port dongles. I still have maybe a half-dozen in a drawer
>>
>>I can't remember what the dongle was for. It was Dad's. Something for
>>work. In the '80s, I think.
>
>I think AutoCad started that and most high-end accounting
>programs used them for awhile. Truly sucky things.
I think autocad was one of the early ones to realize that by getting
rid of the dongle and making their product easier to pirate their
market share would increase. microsoft was another. adobe was another.
some of those people who learned on pirated copies went out and got
jobs using those programs.
codepath wrote:
> You just like to say "dongle", don't you?
I had a real dongle once.
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Mark Jerde wrote:
> I think the answer is to save your pop bottles until you can do a $50
> order
> with the free shipping. I did a $50 order to see what their stuff is
Pop bottles? Do they still do that in Maryland?
The item arrived, 10 business days on the nose. I guess I can stop whining
now.
In the end, I can't say I'm sorry for the purchase. I was using some
incredibly horrible lathe tools, and this $30 HSS set is an amazing
improvement. This will definitely tide me over for awhile.
I'm still basically disenchanted though, and it will be a long time before
I'm desperate enough to order from Horror Fright again.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Tim Douglass wrote:
> Actually, I'd rather see a USB dongle for copy protection on Win XP
> than the stuff they're doing now.
Well, yeah, I'll agree with that. I wasn't stealing Windows, and
theoretically had "nothing to fear" from all those measures, but I found
them a pill too bitter to swallow just on principle. Instead of XP, I
switched to Linux.
Unfortunately, Microsoft never noticed that they lost a customer. It felt
good anyway. Enough is enough.
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Maybe its a blessing and you'll wish you had waited even longer when
you get it !!!
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 20:23:05 -0600, "Greg O" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
>> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
>> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>>
>>
>Give them two weeks. No sooner!
>Greg
Larry Jaques wrote:
>>If I had known it was going to take this long to get the damn things, I
>>would have stopped by the Harbor Freight store on I-95 coming out of
>>Florence and probably had them already.
>
> If possible, ALWAYS pickup direct. That way you can open the box
> and find any broken parts, key on missing parts, check quality,
> etc.
Yeah, well, true, but I didn't know until I got there that I would have had
time to waste en route. I often don't. Ordering them delivered was a
safer bet. (I've been by that place lotsa times, and have never stopped.)
> It's only supposed to be $5.95 handling, free shipping for orders
> over $50. They sell a LOT of items, boy.
It was $5.95 plus $6.95 or something like that. One for shipping, one for
"handling." It did cost less than $50 though. I might have spent more if
I had known.
OK, so I might have this and I might have that. Call me a bad consumer, but
I call them a crappy customer service provider for not making things like
this more obvious. They should say on every page "SPEND $50 SO WE DON'T
SCREW YOU ON THE SHIPPING" and "WE USE THE MOST CRAPPY SHIPPING POSSIBLE,
SO DON'T ORDER THIS UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE WHEN YOU GET IT."
I'm less pissed off now that I actually have the damn thing, but I'm still
not going to buy from them again if I can help it.
--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:08:37 -0500, "Silvan"
<[email protected]> brought forth
from the murky depths:
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
> (For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
You'll seldom get anything within 10 days, even if you live right
down the street from them. Almost everything I have ordered has
taken 2+ weeks for delivery, but replacements for broken items
seem to take less than a week. Go figure.
I think what happens is that they sit on 'em for a week, then give
the order to a very bad shipping department (way understaffed people
who go out of their way to find recycled carboard boxes and dirty
peanuts) who then put it on the slowest, cheapest shipper.
>> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
>> want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
Pobrefreakincito. ;)
Historical fact: I usually get the package the day after I have
finally run out of patience and have called them to whine at 'em.
Call today and you'll get it tomorrow or Saturday.
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 20:31:18 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>Mark Jerde wrote:
>
>>> I had a real dongle once.
>>
>> If you were doing relatively high-end imaging in the mid 1990's you had
>> parallel port dongles. I still have maybe a half-dozen in a drawer
>
>I can't remember what the dongle was for. It was Dad's. Something for
>work. In the '80s, I think.
I think AutoCad started that and most high-end accounting
programs used them for awhile. Truly sucky things.
>I'm glad dongles are dead.
They're not. http://tinyurl.com/3xt8x
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 23:30:34 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:
>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>>> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them
>>>> I want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>>
>> Pobrefreakincito. ;)
>
>Well tomorrow marks 10 business days. it probably won't come in tomorrow
>either then. Another weekend shot. Piss!
OK, the violin is out and I'm playing sad, sad songs for ya.
<insert swung cat music here>
>If I had known it was going to take this long to get the damn things, I
>would have stopped by the Harbor Freight store on I-95 coming out of
>Florence and probably had them already.
If possible, ALWAYS pickup direct. That way you can open the box
and find any broken parts, key on missing parts, check quality,
etc.
>I will *never* order from these assholes again. The $11 I paid for shipping
>is a lot of money to me, and it damn sure should have been enough to
>guarantee better than 10-14 business days. This is bullshit.
It's only supposed to be $5.95 handling, free shipping for orders
over $50. They sell a LOT of items, boy.
>(I'm being myserious because I'm ashamed of what I bought. I know they will
>be crappy on top of having taken half a month to get here. I just can't
>afford anything better right now. I *am* pobre.)
Mais oui, monsewer. (But of course!) <more swung cats here>
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10-14 BUSINESS days. I never had them go over except on
an "out-of-stock" and then they will send you letter
informing you and giving you the option of canceling
the item(s). Call their 1-800 and they will tell you the status
and give you a UPS tracking number and status.
Joey in Chesapeake
"Silvan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I ordered an item from Harbor Freight on 1/4 and it isn't here yet. They
> don't offer order tracking per se. I have an "order date" (1/5) and a box
> number. It says they shipped it "parcel post."
>
> (For $11 they should have shipped it next day freaking air, incidentally.)
>
> So is my item most likely lost in the void, or what? I haven't had to
wait
> this long for anything since the days of sending off for something as a
kid
> and having to wait six to eight weeks to get my dongle.
>
> When do I get to start crawling up Harbor Freight's ass and telling them I
> want my dongle NOW NOW NOW?
>
> What does "parcel post" mean anyway? Old fashioned, non-priority US Mail?
> Even at that, nine mail days seems excessive to me. I seem to recall it
> taking five to seven for something to get somewhere. Of course that was
> when stamps cost 20 cents.
>
> --
> Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
> http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
>
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:01:31 GMT, "Mark Jerde"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Some HF is junk but some is ok. I *am* planning to buy a bunch of Pittsburg
>bar clamps from them. I couldn't detect any real operational differences
>between the HF Pittsburg clamps and my beloved Jorgys.
>
> -- Mark
>
I can ; ^ )
I would recommend that you buy the clamps in the store rather than via
mail and inspect them carefully. the rate of (to me) fatal defects is
high. look for moveable jaws machined so that the screw is nonparallel
to the bar. probably 60% to 70% fail that. remove the silly rubber
caps and slide the jaw shut and make sure the swivel foot meets the
fixed jaw squarely, and that when tightened it doesn't walk to the
side. probably 75% to 80% fail that.
it's not uncommon for me to go through a bin of 30 or 40 clamps and
come up with 2 or 4 that I find acceptable.
even then the clutch plates are made of too-soft metal and start
slipping after a while. the jorgy clutch plates fit and are available
for about $3 a set. one of these days I'm gonna see if they offer a
bulk discount on those things and get a buttload of them.
Bridger
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:13:10 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Douglass wrote:
>
>> Actually, I'd rather see a USB dongle for copy protection on Win XP
>> than the stuff they're doing now.
>
>Well, yeah, I'll agree with that. I wasn't stealing Windows, and
>theoretically had "nothing to fear" from all those measures, but I found
>them a pill too bitter to swallow just on principle. Instead of XP, I
>switched to Linux.
>
>Unfortunately, Microsoft never noticed that they lost a customer. It felt
>good anyway. Enough is enough.
I keep trying to switch to Linux, but the software I need just isn't
out there. If the Linux community could come up with a one disk,
automatic install that would be as easy to install and configure as XP
they could give MS a run for their money. It really wouldn't take too
big a customer base to start seeing a lot of commercial software
ported to Linux.
I spent a lot of years making Unix, Linux, VMS, RSTS, NT4.0 systems
and networks function. Now I just need something that works without me
tying to remember all sorts of weird configuration stuff.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com