Bt

"Bruce"

31/03/2004 5:54 PM

Jigsaw Blades

I have a cheap but surprisingly functional HF jigsaw that
requires the Bosch T-shank style blades. I've had great
luck with the saw and the blades cutting various types of
wood and wood products. I don't use it too often but
so far so good. I use it in place of my yet-to-be-purchased
bandsaw. Today I was doing a little metal working and
had to cut some 1/4" mild steel. I bought some Bosch
metal cutting blades, (14tpi I think) that stated they were
good for up to 1/4" steel and fast cuts. I'm used to using
a finer tooth blade but this was what the Borg had that
was recommended for thicker metal. I chucked the blade
up and began a slow cut. It cut beautifully for the first 1/4"
or so and then stopped cutting. The teeth were rounded
off. Damnit! I wasn't going to waste another blade so I
went back to the Borg to get a refund and try the fine toothed
(36tpi) blades. They were recommended for thin metal
but this is what I've used for years in the past, only using
a different brand with a U-shank in a crappy and weak
old Craftsman jigsaw. I chucked up the new blade and it
smoked almost immediately too. Damnit! All I had left was
some old Black and Decker "Piranha" 18tpi metal
cutting blades. I had about 16" of total cutting to do and
that Craftsman jigsaw and the B&D blade made it through
about 13" before I changed to a new one. It was still cutting
but had slowed down. Neither of the Bosch blades would
cut more than 1/4" without dying completely.
So, what's up with the Bosch metal cutting blades? They
suck? The wood blades seem to be fine and at least 90%
of the cutting I do is in wood but when I need to cut metal
I'd like to use the smoother and more powerful HF jigsaw.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to another brand of
blade that has the T-shank that actually works? I have a
Sawszall but it's not too good for doing fine, accurate cuts
like I was doing today. The Borg had a combo pack of
Dewalt T-shank blades but only one was a metal blade so
that was out. Nobody else in my town has any other brand
of T-shank blades for me to try. Suggestions? Yeah, I
know, get a jigsaw that uses U-shank blades so I can have
a better selection. Not happening anytime soon though.
Thanks in advance.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.


This topic has 8 replies

Bt

"Bruce"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

31/03/2004 7:26 PM


"Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> you sure it was "mild-steel"?
>
> Sounds like it might be hardened...was doing some work a while back
and
> would hate to tell you how many different blades (sawzall, Bosch,
B&D,
> Cooper) I went through on some of that stuff before I finally figure
it
> out...cutting torch...
>
>
Yeah, I'm quite sure it's mild steel. I worked at a large steel
supply and
fab business for a few years and I got this from there right out of
the racks.
It grinds and files quite easily and the cheaper B&D blades mounted in
the
wimpy Craftsman 1/4hp jigsaw cut fine. *Very* slowly because of a
lack of
power but otherwise it was fine and the blades held up surprisingly
well.
Unfortunately, the Craftsman jigsaw vibrated so much that my hands
were
tingling for about 10 minutes after I was done. The HF jigsaw has
plenty
of power and runs pretty smoothly but it only takes the T-shank
blades.
I have a torch but it wasn't going to work for this application. It's
cut now.
I'm just not looking forward to the next time I have to use a jigsaw
to cut
some metal.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.

Bt

"Bruce"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

01/04/2004 12:32 PM

Yes, my HF jigsaw does have an adjustable orbital action
but for metal I wasn't using it. It works great for cutting
fast through wood but I knew better than to use it on the
metal. The old Craftsman jigsaw is as no-frills as they come
and didn't have orbital action. It got warm but it kept
chugging along and completed the cuts, even with a cheaper
blade. I may buy Bosch blades again but *never* for cutting
metal. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that since
nobody has given any suggestions as to what brand of
T-shank blades work well in metal. The Bosch blades
are a joke! I got my money back again this morning from
the Borg. I know the lady at the counter must think I'm
just buying the blades, using them for my project and then
returning them. I did give her an explanation but it doesn't
really matter what she thinks.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.

"Bruce Adams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does the HF have orbital action, and are you using it? I'm not
positive, but
> I think when cutting metal, you want the orbital action off.
Something to
> try, anyways.
> Bruce (just noticed... you're Bruce, too :-))

Bt

"Bruce"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

01/04/2004 11:36 PM

There's an idea. I nearly always use it when I'm drilling metal
but I've never tried it with my jigsaw. Thanks.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.

"Jeffo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> It might help to use some cutting fluid as well, lubricates and
cools I'm
> told. That is what I did cutting some 11ga stainless recently with
Metabo
> blades and that helped, little messier tho.
>
> Cheers,
> Jeffo

Bt

"Bruce"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

03/04/2004 12:18 PM

I used large industrial sized metal cutting bandsaws on
a daily basis for a few years and they had a built in
coolant system that was absolutely necessary but it
wasn't an oily type of fluid. More of a soapy liquid.
The next time I'm cutting some thicker metal with
my jigsaw I'll try a few squirts of "Tap Magic" and
see how it works. There will be more of a mess but
I'll bet it cuts easier.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.


"Jeffo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> It's amazing what they don't tell you. Neither the manual for my
jigsaw or
> the package for the blades mention that. Fortunately I know a couple
metal
> workers.
>
> Jeffo

Jb

"Jeffo"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

02/04/2004 12:11 AM


It might help to use some cutting fluid as well, lubricates and cools I'm
told. That is what I did cutting some 11ga stainless recently with Metabo
blades and that helped, little messier tho.

Cheers,
Jeffo



"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a cheap but surprisingly functional HF jigsaw that
> requires the Bosch T-shank style blades. I've had great
> luck with the saw and the blades cutting various types of
> wood and wood products. I don't use it too often but
> so far so good. I use it in place of my yet-to-be-purchased
> bandsaw. Today I was doing a little metal working and
> had to cut some 1/4" mild steel. I bought some Bosch
> metal cutting blades, (14tpi I think) that stated they were
> good for up to 1/4" steel and fast cuts. I'm used to using
> a finer tooth blade but this was what the Borg had that
> was recommended for thicker metal. I chucked the blade
> up and began a slow cut. It cut beautifully for the first 1/4"
> or so and then stopped cutting. The teeth were rounded
> off. Damnit! I wasn't going to waste another blade so I
> went back to the Borg to get a refund and try the fine toothed
> (36tpi) blades. They were recommended for thin metal
> but this is what I've used for years in the past, only using
> a different brand with a U-shank in a crappy and weak
> old Craftsman jigsaw. I chucked up the new blade and it
> smoked almost immediately too. Damnit! All I had left was
> some old Black and Decker "Piranha" 18tpi metal
> cutting blades. I had about 16" of total cutting to do and
> that Craftsman jigsaw and the B&D blade made it through
> about 13" before I changed to a new one. It was still cutting
> but had slowed down. Neither of the Bosch blades would
> cut more than 1/4" without dying completely.
> So, what's up with the Bosch metal cutting blades? They
> suck? The wood blades seem to be fine and at least 90%
> of the cutting I do is in wood but when I need to cut metal
> I'd like to use the smoother and more powerful HF jigsaw.
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to another brand of
> blade that has the T-shank that actually works? I have a
> Sawszall but it's not too good for doing fine, accurate cuts
> like I was doing today. The Borg had a combo pack of
> Dewalt T-shank blades but only one was a metal blade so
> that was out. Nobody else in my town has any other brand
> of T-shank blades for me to try. Suggestions? Yeah, I
> know, get a jigsaw that uses U-shank blades so I can have
> a better selection. Not happening anytime soon though.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bruce
> Redding, Ca.
>
>

BA

"Bruce Adams"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

01/04/2004 6:42 PM

Does the HF have orbital action, and are you using it? I'm not positive, but
I think when cutting metal, you want the orbital action off. Something to
try, anyways.
Bruce (just noticed... you're Bruce, too :-))
"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Tom Kohlman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > you sure it was "mild-steel"?
> >
> > Sounds like it might be hardened...was doing some work a while back
> and
> > would hate to tell you how many different blades (sawzall, Bosch,
> B&D,
> > Cooper) I went through on some of that stuff before I finally figure
> it
> > out...cutting torch...
> >
> >
> Yeah, I'm quite sure it's mild steel. I worked at a large steel
> supply and
> fab business for a few years and I got this from there right out of
> the racks.
> It grinds and files quite easily and the cheaper B&D blades mounted in
> the
> wimpy Craftsman 1/4hp jigsaw cut fine. *Very* slowly because of a
> lack of
> power but otherwise it was fine and the blades held up surprisingly
> well.
> Unfortunately, the Craftsman jigsaw vibrated so much that my hands
> were
> tingling for about 10 minutes after I was done. The HF jigsaw has
> plenty
> of power and runs pretty smoothly but it only takes the T-shank
> blades.
> I have a torch but it wasn't going to work for this application. It's
> cut now.
> I'm just not looking forward to the next time I have to use a jigsaw
> to cut
> some metal.
>
> Bruce
> Redding, Ca.
>
>

TK

"Tom Kohlman"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

01/04/2004 3:25 AM

you sure it was "mild-steel"?

Sounds like it might be hardened...was doing some work a while back and
would hate to tell you how many different blades (sawzall, Bosch, B&D,
Cooper) I went through on some of that stuff before I finally figure it
out...cutting torch...


"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a cheap but surprisingly functional HF jigsaw that
> requires the Bosch T-shank style blades. I've had great
> luck with the saw and the blades cutting various types of
> wood and wood products. I don't use it too often but
> so far so good. I use it in place of my yet-to-be-purchased
> bandsaw. Today I was doing a little metal working and
> had to cut some 1/4" mild steel. I bought some Bosch
> metal cutting blades, (14tpi I think) that stated they were
> good for up to 1/4" steel and fast cuts. I'm used to using
> a finer tooth blade but this was what the Borg had that
> was recommended for thicker metal. I chucked the blade
> up and began a slow cut. It cut beautifully for the first 1/4"
> or so and then stopped cutting. The teeth were rounded
> off. Damnit! I wasn't going to waste another blade so I
> went back to the Borg to get a refund and try the fine toothed
> (36tpi) blades. They were recommended for thin metal
> but this is what I've used for years in the past, only using
> a different brand with a U-shank in a crappy and weak
> old Craftsman jigsaw. I chucked up the new blade and it
> smoked almost immediately too. Damnit! All I had left was
> some old Black and Decker "Piranha" 18tpi metal
> cutting blades. I had about 16" of total cutting to do and
> that Craftsman jigsaw and the B&D blade made it through
> about 13" before I changed to a new one. It was still cutting
> but had slowed down. Neither of the Bosch blades would
> cut more than 1/4" without dying completely.
> So, what's up with the Bosch metal cutting blades? They
> suck? The wood blades seem to be fine and at least 90%
> of the cutting I do is in wood but when I need to cut metal
> I'd like to use the smoother and more powerful HF jigsaw.
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to another brand of
> blade that has the T-shank that actually works? I have a
> Sawszall but it's not too good for doing fine, accurate cuts
> like I was doing today. The Borg had a combo pack of
> Dewalt T-shank blades but only one was a metal blade so
> that was out. Nobody else in my town has any other brand
> of T-shank blades for me to try. Suggestions? Yeah, I
> know, get a jigsaw that uses U-shank blades so I can have
> a better selection. Not happening anytime soon though.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bruce
> Redding, Ca.
>
>

Jb

"Jeffo"

in reply to "Bruce" on 31/03/2004 5:54 PM

03/04/2004 12:27 PM


It's amazing what they don't tell you. Neither the manual for my jigsaw or
the package for the blades mention that. Fortunately I know a couple metal
workers.

Jeffo

"Bruce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There's an idea. I nearly always use it when I'm drilling metal
> but I've never tried it with my jigsaw. Thanks.
>
> Bruce
> Redding, Ca.
>
> "Jeffo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > It might help to use some cutting fluid as well, lubricates and
> cools I'm
> > told. That is what I did cutting some 11ga stainless recently with
> Metabo
> > blades and that helped, little messier tho.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jeffo
>
>


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